NTUC Chief: More retrenchments coming

[Victor68]

to me, it is the company responsibility to chart their employee job matrix. if they find any employee not performing, it is their duty to send them for upgrading. not to continue status quo and enjoy their biz then suddenly drop them.

 

restructuring is a terrible management excuse. if they close shop, ok lah

[Jamesc]

  On 12/30/2016 at 2:17 AM, Dfx16 said:

Super hard truth!

 

I encountered few sometime this year even after i proved myself to be a genuine buyer

 

This few very openly told me to come back with a cheque if i need their services!

 

But at the same time i also met very some who's very hardworking and non pushy trying their best to help me shortlist a property within their company group managed properties 

 

In 2003 during SARS when I bought a condo the service was fantastic.

 

They quickly put down their fly swatters when they saw me coming and

 

welcome me very warmly. The MD of the sales agency even wrote a cheque

 

to pay for my 1% deposit. So a few days later I wrote a cheque to him to pay

 

him back. You don't get that kind of service these days. 

 

[Jamesc]

  On 12/30/2016 at 2:34 AM, Victor68 said:

to me, it is the company responsibility to chart their employee management job matrix. if they find any employee management not performing, it is their duty to send them for upgrading. not to continue status quo and enjoy their biz then suddenly drop them.

restructuring is a terrible management excuse. if they close shop, ok lah

 

There is no such thing as bad employees only bad managers.

 

Its never ok to close shop even if they "never" do anything wrong

 

like Nokia. Actually they did a lot of things wrong, why kid themselves

 

even now? Living in an alternate reality.

 

[Jamesc]

CEOs like to say I should be paid very well as I have the responsibility

 

of the welfare of thousands of employees.

 

So when they fail should they pay back the money?

 

[Kb27]

  On 12/30/2016 at 1:54 AM, Lala81 said:

actually u all say BM until such shoddy service. I've been there a few times, never experience before leh. LOL.

 

I went to BM 30 yrs ago. Wanted to buy a Starlet.

Salesmen were busy avoiding me.

 

I caught one and he pointed me to one and said last one and walked away.

T cars were flying off the shelf. Salesmen don't even bother to entertain you.

 

That was the last time, I promise myself never to step foot in BM as long as I live.

So what that car so great, I have to chase them to pay money ?

 

I walked over to MotorImage and the saleslady was absolutely great.

Bought a car there and then.

Edited December 30, 2016 by Kb27

[Lala81]

  On 12/30/2016 at 2:59 AM, Kb27 said:

I went to BM 30 yrs ago. Wanted to buy a Starlet.

Salesmen were busy avoiding me.

 

I caught one and he pointed me to one and said last one and walked away.

T cars were flying off the shelf. Salesmen don't even bother to entertain you.

 

That was the last time, I promise myself never to step foot in BM as long as I live.

So what that car so great, I have to chase them to pay money ?

 

that's indeed a turn off.

Maybe i go during off peak timings, so i never kana such service.

 

The SE from my altis time was actually good. Think he joined back the watch industry sometime after i bought the car from him.

Now he's back with Mazda Eurokars

 

Edited December 30, 2016 by Lala81

[Hiphiphoray]

Recently went to the showrooms of T , Wowo and hyundai.

 

The sales people behave well lei....not atas.

 

Test drive the wowo s60 t5.......quite a awesome car!

[13177]

  On 12/30/2016 at 2:59 AM, Kb27 said:

I went to BM 30 yrs ago. Wanted to buy a Starlet.

Salesmen were busy avoiding me.

 

I caught one and he pointed me to one and said last one and walked away.

T cars were flying off the shelf. Salesmen don't even bother to entertain you.

 

That was the last time, I promise myself never to step foot in BM as long as I live.

So what that car so great, I have to chase them to pay money ?

 

I walked over to MotorImage and the saleslady was absolutely great.

Bought a car there and then.

Looks like many people have such "bad'' experience with BM over the decades ah?! I also have relatives who want to buy T cars decade ago, walked into their showroom and no one attend to them, in the end all ended buy other make/model. Even after decade, all my relative still never go back to buy any T car. Lol. As for me, i have never step into the T car showroom at all. 

  On 12/30/2016 at 2:34 AM, Victor68 said:

to me, it is the company responsibility to chart their employee job matrix. if they find any employee not performing, it is their duty to send them for upgrading. not to continue status quo and enjoy their biz then suddenly drop them.

 

restructuring is a terrible management excuse. if they close shop, ok lah

Restructuring is a very good way to ''get rid'' of staff that the company dont want or dont like, and yet these group of staff like leech and stay put in the company until retirement age. Lol.

[Lala81]

Shows that reputation still plays a part after so many years lol.

 

Over the years, I've never felt that BM service is bad leh. My whole family has bought a Toyota at some point. And i've test driven Previa, Camry in 2014 also. The service was always ok.

[Kangadrool]

So far when I shop for cars, always made advance appointment with SE and went during off peak, no issues. In fact, can test drive a few rounds until tired. LoL.

 

 

 

 

[Wyfitms]

  On 12/30/2016 at 1:26 AM, Jamesc said:

Retrenched car salesman can sell condos.

 

Last time these sales people very yaya papaya, so many people just want to buy the big T.

 

Don't dress well and they don't entertain you. Now got competition from the Korean and

 

even Germans that people don't automatically chose a T.

 

Condos sales are perfect for them. Just herd people into aircon tents to queue up and tell

 

customers you have to ballot for your unit and no blank cheque please don't waste my time.

 

They can be rude, snobbish and still make a lot of money. 

 

 

i'm not surprised BM laying off. Business is so good that there is no need for sales exec anymore. Buyers simply go to BM and buy without much convincing.

 

It is the lousier dealers who need to hire more sales exec 

 

just like condo developers have to offer 5% comm for condo that cannot sell. Those that can sell out in one day, they give at most 0.25%. Sometimes, buyers just call developer direct and don't even need to pay agent a cent   

[Dfx16]

  On 12/30/2016 at 2:35 AM, Jamesc said:

In 2003 during SARS when I bought a condo the service was fantastic.

 

They quickly put down their fly swatters when they saw me coming and

 

welcome me very warmly. The MD of the sales agency even wrote a cheque

 

to pay for my 1% deposit. So a few days later I wrote a cheque to him to pay

 

him back. You don't get that kind of service these days. 

 

 

 

wow wow wow !!! 

[Jamesc]

  On 12/30/2016 at 3:50 AM, Wyfitms said:

i'm not surprised BM laying off. Business is so good that there is no need for sales exec anymore. Buyers simply go to BM and buy without much convincing.

 

It is the lousier dealers who need to hire more sales exec 

 

just like condo developers have to offer 5% comm for condo that cannot sell. Those that can sell out in one day, they give at most 0.25%. Sometimes, buyers just call developer direct and don't even need to pay agent a cent   

 

That's right. 

 

The worse the product the better the salesman needed. 

 

[Vratenza]

No wonder I see so many insurance road shows everywhere I go.....

 

 

  On 12/30/2016 at 4:40 AM, Jamesc said:

That's right. 

 

The worse the product the better the salesman needed. 

 

 

[Wyfitms]

  On 12/30/2016 at 2:17 AM, Dfx16 said:

Super hard truth!

 

I encountered few sometime this year even after i proved myself to be a genuine buyer

 

This few very openly told me to come back with a cheque if i need their services!

 

But at the same time i also met very some who's very hardworking and non pushy trying their best to help me shortlist a property within their company group managed properties

Market still not bad. Agents can still be choosy

[Still2016]

I find it strange just how some make purchases.

 

I wondered if they are buying the car, the sales person or the company.

 

For me, when I buy a car I go to great length that the car Iam buying really is what I am looking for and tthe process is simple and trouble free.

 

I have seen how people buy rolls Royce or Bentley. They go in make their personal choice and pay then leave.

 

Small talks distracts what you go for in the first place.

 

For those who got turn off by salesman at T and decide somewhere else, in most cases is yours and salesman lost and not the company. Most bread and butter T cars are on par or better than those smaller brands in terms of reliability.

 

Priority.

[Tohto]

  On 12/30/2016 at 4:56 AM, Still2016 said:

I find it strange just how some make purchases.

 

I wondered if they are buying the car, the sales person or the company.

 

For me, when I buy a car I go to great length that the car Iam buying really is what I am looking for and tthe process is simple and trouble free.

 

I have seen how people buy rolls Royce or Bentley. They go in make their personal choice and pay then leave.

 

Small talks distracts what you go for in the first place.

 

For those who got turn off by salesman at T and decide somewhere else, in most cases is yours and salesman lost and not the company. Most bread and butter T cars are on par or better than those smaller brands in terms of reliability.

 

Priority.

Most Toyota car sold here are too basic and all the safety features modern car should have.

[Karoon]

  On 12/30/2016 at 3:08 AM, Hiphiphoray said:

Recently went to the showrooms of T , Wowo and hyundai.

 

The sales people behave well lei....not atas.

 

Test drive the wowo s60 t5.......quite a awesome car!

 

LOL!

 

thats how its pronounced here.

 

also lehno