NTUC Chief: More retrenchments coming

[Ryosuke]

Have some questions to ask regarding job contracts.

Normally you will see in the contract that in the event that you resigned without giving one month notice you will need to pay the company one month salary.

Do the company normally will pursue this if the person left without notice and didn't pay the salary for notice? The company will just give it up and didn't pursue further most of time?

Edited December 15, 2016 by Ryosuke

[Vratenza]

if the person salary is $2000/mth and the lawyer/court fee add up to $10,000..... even if the court rules in company favour and ask the former employee to pay for the cost, it is too time consuming (read: man hour cost) for the company to pursue.

 

Unless the person is drawing > 10-20K/month ...but at such level of salary, the position and responsibilities will usually be at least 3 month notice.

 

 

Have some questions to ask regarding job contracts.
Normally you will see in the contract that in the event that you resigned without giving one month notice you will need to pay the company one month salary.
Do the company normally will pursue this if the person left without notice and didn't pay the salary for notice? The company will just give it up and didn't pursue further most of time?

 

[Kusje]

if the person salary is $2000/mth and the lawyer/court fee add up to $10,000..... even if the court rules in company favour and ask the former employee to pay for the cost, it is too time consuming (read: man hour cost) for the company to pursue.

 

Unless the person is drawing > 10-20K/month ...but at such level of salary, the position and responsibilities will usually be at least 3 month notice.

 

Don't ever bet on this. It really depends on the boss and company.

 

Some companies are damn rich and if there is bad blood (and there must be right? otherwise why do this?) they will pursue it to the very end.

Have some questions to ask regarding job contracts.

Normally you will see in the contract that in the event that you resigned without giving one month notice you will need to pay the company one month salary.

Do the company normally will pursue this if the person left without notice and didn't pay the salary for notice? The company will just give it up and didn't pursue further most of time?

 

You signed the contract right? Serve it out la. Otherwise pay up and leave.

[Vratenza]

Yeah agree, sometimes the boss can be irrational and just want to teach the person a lesson despite making some loss.

 

1 month is very short to serve out..especially when you clear all the AL.

 

Don't ever bet on this. It really depends on the boss and company.

 

Some companies are damn rich and if there is bad blood (and there must be right? otherwise why do this?) they will pursue it to the very end.

 

You signed the contract right? Serve it out la. Otherwise pay up and leave.

 

[Victor68]

if you have agreed, please fulfil that obligation. if for some reason you need to leave urgently, offer compensation.

 

as a company, no point keeping that person with no heart. i would rather we part in an amicable way. singapore is so small, never know when we meet again.

[Kangadrool]

Important is, just tender formally in writing first. Then, see the wind flow, see what they wanna do - pay u to go immediate, serve out full month, sign indemnity letter saying u go immediate w/o compensation from employer (yes, seeing this trend coming up also).

 

 

[Galantspeedz]

You are right bro. I am a contract Inspector. As it is we are scraping the barrel with no projects in sight and yet we have to deal with this sort of underhand stragety. If they had hired a local I would have been happy as most locals who applied were my kakis as well. 

 

so how are you different from the FT who hired FT?

[Staff69]

if the person salary is $2000/mth and the lawyer/court fee add up to $10,000..... even if the court rules in company favour and ask the former employee to pay for the cost, it is too time consuming (read: man hour cost) for the company to pursue.

 

Unless the person is drawing > 10-20K/month ...but at such level of salary, the position and responsibilities will usually be at least 3 month notice.

 

boss. no need go court or get lawyer.

usually get a representative go to small claim court.

 

before going to court. they will assign a mediator or judge to trash things out.

 

 

if both parties agree to settle out before going small claim court then settle.

 

but if the party at fault agrees to pay but refuse after leaving court.

 

the company or person can take out a court order saying the party refuse to pay as agreed.

 

after which the court would tag a flag on the person.

 

in normal times. the person can dont pay

 

but should the person wants to apply a credit card. take a car loan or housing loan.

 

the banks will know that this person has a judgement against him and he has not paid up.

 

thus this person can't buy anything that needs a loan.

 

 

he would need to pay up to the party he defaulted and the company would proceed to small claim court and dismissed the judgement against him

 

 

but the damage has been done to the person as this record would be tag to him for 3 to 5 years.

 

 

 

unless he follow the china man kan caught for using fake passport and changing name .

 

he needs to pay up.

 

 

even if you change your name. you cant change your id number

[Jamesc]

If you sign the letter but never join highly unlikely they will pursue.

 

If you are already working then they will keep your money as

 

compensation. So if you are running away, wait for the salary

 

to be bank in first then don't turn up for work the next day.

 

 

 

However are people so irresponsible these days to sign

 

appointment letter and never join or just run away from

 

company without serving notice? I really hope so. Then it 

 

will be easier for me to find a job. I will be competing with duds. 

 

[Voodooman]

More coming. Focus on your job and make sure you are not a casualty this time round.

[Jayy25]

You are right bro. I am a contract Inspector. As it is we are scraping the barrel with no projects in sight and yet we have to deal with this sort of underhand stragety. If they had hired a local I would have been happy as most locals who applied were my kakis as well. 

 

 

actually, once you have pinoy head or indian chief in a certain depts.. most time they will employ own ppl and when retrench comes, most times are those who aren't their 'gang'....

 

in my 5 years in IT dept of O&G related company, i seen it all.. the best part is they do it explicitly.

 

now in my dept, the malaysians are ganging up to remove the singapore sons away so that their kampong folks can join.... well... what to do when times are bad.. it is all about survival....

[13177]

actually, once you have pinoy head or indian chief in a certain depts.. most time they will employ own ppl and when retrench comes, most times are those who aren't their 'gang'....

 

in my 5 years in IT dept of O&G related company, i seen it all.. the best part is they do it explicitly.

 

now in my dept, the malaysians are ganging up to remove the singapore sons away so that their kampong folks can join.... well... what to do when times are bad.. it is all about survival....

Looks like being gracious and employ foreigners and this is what locals get in the end? Lol.

[Jamesc]

That's why I say get those mei mei from Taiwan,

 

Korea, Japan, Vietnam and Thailand.

 

Imagine being squashed up in an office full of them.

 

[Jamesc]

Working shoulder to shoulder

 

and cheek to cheek.

 

Nose to the grindstone and

 

other places.

 

[Jman888]

That's why I say get those mei mei from Taiwan,

 

Korea, Japan, Vietnam and Thailand.

 

Imagine being squashed up in an office full of them.

 

 

 

you should go work in breadtalk, they have many taiwan mei mei, maybe got korean also.

[13177]

you should go work in breadtalk, they have many taiwan mei mei, maybe got korean also.

So breadtalk now change to taiwan and korean?

[Jamesc]

you should go work in breadtalk, they have many taiwan mei mei, maybe got korean also.

 

What more could you ask for?

 

Japanese buns served by Taiwan and

 

Korean mei meis. Something to certainly

 

get your teeth into.

 

[Victor68]

wow sg best selling car retrenching staff despite so many support with high COE. so those not selling well how har?