Kangadrool Supersonic November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 It's not as if our flats were built in ancient times when lift was just invented. They should have lift landing in every floor to begin with. How come such poor planning? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxus-MIFA9 Supersonic November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 Nothing new .... T. Payoh Blk.28 to 32 (3 rooms flats) were to be emblocked but renovated by private company & now rented out to RWS staff staying in those flats ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old-driver 5th Gear November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 Just ask the top floor neighbors....who wants the lift. Those who wants the lift will switch units with the lower floors units who don't mind the climb up. Assuming there are 50 units in this particular block. Total subsidies the gov is willing to pay is $27,000 x 50 =$1,350,000. Then tell gov to give the subsidies instead to the lower floor units who are willing to change with the top floor units. Win win situation for the neighbors!!! Ingenious! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwaver Turbocharged November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 Just ask the top floor neighbors....who wants the lift. Those who wants the lift will switch units with the lower floors units who don't mind the climb up. Assuming there are 50 units in this particular block. Total subsidies the gov is willing to pay is $27,000 x 50 =$1,350,000. Then tell gov to give the subsidies instead to the lower floor units who are willing to change with the top floor units. Win win situation for the neighbors!!! Hey, fantastic idea! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonjees 1st Gear November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 erm if only 1 floor doesnt have lift, its time HDB learns how to build escalators. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qms Neutral Newbie November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 Wa lau , like that also can ah ? Did they made you all pay also ? :angry: No. Only the 20% who get to vote get to pay. As expected 87.5% of the 20% voted yes. And the results: 80% get the noise and dust, no need to pay but lose 1 existing lift. 17.5% voted yes (thank you) 2.5% voted no, LL must pay also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old-driver 5th Gear November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 Actually whats the logic, all floors got lift but not for the top flr. Dun understand why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 the reason is to cut down cost. they dont have to cater man power cost and maintaince cost of those rented flat when they sub it out to those company. The cost will be a fixed cost rather than a floating cost. hence easier to manage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonjst 3rd Gear November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 (edited) No. Only the 20% who get to vote get to pay. As expected 87.5% of the 20% voted yes. And the results: 80% get the noise and dust, no need to pay but lose 1 existing lift. 17.5% voted yes (thank you) 2.5% voted no, LL must pay also. I see . Hmm .. in my case only got 4 house at top flr , 56 houses below also need to pay ? Booldy , must go and question them what is going on , and how the hell the damn LUP suppose to work ? Will update u guys again . Voting yet to start , hope those dumb farkers dont vote yes , as though they are voting for GE :angry: Edited November 11, 2011 by Jasonjst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezg1 5th Gear November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 It's not as if our flats were built in ancient times when lift was just invented. They should have lift landing in every floor to begin with. How come such poor planning? This is call....my foresight is short...but you have to pay when I send you the letter..... :angry: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 This is call....my foresight is short...but you have to pay when I send you the letter..... :angry: TBF, build a lift to stop at every fall during those era will cost at least 10 Times more. due to technology advancement, this is why we have lift at every floor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qms Neutral Newbie November 11, 2011 Share November 11, 2011 I see . Hmm .. in my case only got 4 house at top flr , 56 houses below also need to pay ? Booldy , must go and question them what is going on , and how the hell the damn LUP suppose to work ? Will update u guys again . Voting yet to start , hope those dumb farkers dont vote yes , as though they are voting for GE :angry: Hope you don't have to pay. LUP is just like our Prez popularly elected with only 33% vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonjst 3rd Gear November 12, 2011 Share November 12, 2011 (edited) I see . Hmm .. in my case only got 4 house at top flr , 56 houses below also need to pay ? Booldy , must go and question them what is going on , and how the hell the damn LUP suppose to work ? Will update u guys again . Voting yet to start , hope those dumb farkers dont vote yes , as though they are voting for GE :angry: OK guys, go check with them already, those on lift landing need not vote and need not pay! Hence got nothing to do with the 56 houses, only 4 houses are involved with the whole wayang. My apology, rest my case. Still feel that public money should only be spend to benefit a lager committee, not just 4 households. In the first place when they brought the flats yrs ago , they are awared that there is no lift on the top flr I guess. But since I am not eligible to vote , nothing I can do . Edited November 12, 2011 by Jasonjst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_end Neutral Newbie November 13, 2011 Share November 13, 2011 TBF, build a lift to stop at every fall during those era will cost at least 10 Times more. due to technology advancement, this is why we have lift at every floor. It does cost more to stop at every floor but it does not take technology advancement to stop at every floor. An elevator is not a complex system... basically added nos. of sensors are strategically place on each level for the lift to stop at each floor. Regardless of the nos. of stop, one elevator basically needs only 1 set of hoisting ropes, 1 set of counterweight, 1 motor, 1 electrical control system ie. one drive system, to operate. With the above, am doubtful the increase in cost will be at least 10x more, as claimed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scb11980 1st Gear November 13, 2011 Author Share November 13, 2011 erm if only 1 floor doesnt have lift, its time HDB learns how to build escalators. actually it is a desgin flaw by HDB why are we made to pay for this mistake they made Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoongf 4th Gear November 13, 2011 Share November 13, 2011 Actually whats the logic, all floors got lift but not for the top flr. Dun understand why Many HDB blocks are subject to maximum height controls due to proximity to airports. HDB built the flats to the maximum height, hence there was no room for the lift motor room on top. Newer lift models allow for motor room to be situated away from the top floor. Last time.. ppl could accept walking a few vertical steps to their flat. Living in walkup flats was aceptable. These days. due to aging population. concern for the handicapped, it is desirable to be able to roll a wheelchair from the carpark to the doorway. It's not a question of poor planning then, but meeting increasingly higher expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoongf 4th Gear November 13, 2011 Share November 13, 2011 the reason is to cut down cost. they dont have to cater man power cost and maintaince cost of those rented flat when they sub it out to those company. The cost will be a fixed cost rather than a floating cost. hence easier to manage. Yes, u are correct. Managed by private operator does not mean the private operator is jacking up costs for the end user. We have to understand that HDB is a stat board, and that govt HR policies may not allow stat boards to hire low cost foreign talents. By outsourcing to the private sector, the private operator may have the benefit of lower operating costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoongf 4th Gear November 13, 2011 Share November 13, 2011 erm if only 1 floor doesnt have lift, its time HDB learns how to build escalators. Escalators have substantially higher operating costs as they are constantly moving. Also, escalators do not cater to wheelchairs and prams. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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