2nd hand Car: Civic 1.6M or Civic 1.8M? Advice needed.

[Donut]

Not true la, bro.

 

How much difference only? The price diff between the 2 engines, is not justifiable to get the bigger engine. Don't forget 1.8 has more road tax and more insurance....

 

My tiny 1.5 can give me 13.5km/l already. Also must go and down MSCP... Lol. Don't tell me 1.8 can give me 18km/l hor......

[Happily1986]

  On 10/15/2011 at 7:53 AM, Mugen85 said:

2.0 of course even better. FC for manual maybe around 12-13km/l.

Figures est on average of owners driving civic FD.

 

wu yar boh? you driving FD2? Those fellas whom i know driving FD2 clock about 10km/L thereabout on combined urban cycle and you claim its FC is better than 1.8?

[Ithunk]

  On 10/15/2011 at 4:06 PM, Happily1986 said:

wu yar boh? you driving FD2? Those fellas whom i know driving FD2 clock about 10km/L thereabout on combined urban cycle and you claim its FC is better than 1.8?

 

depends on foot

 

anyway saving fuel takes the enjoyment out of driving...sometimes its best to turn to sport mode turn off traction control or watever and take the engine to the limits...

 

drive safe however

Edited October 15, 2011 by Ithunk

[Mecontle]

1.8m is still slower than a certain 1.6m hatch

[Spicky]

  On 10/15/2011 at 3:30 PM, Tanly said:

Bro Civic FD have to get the 1.8 or 2.0 to get a better Honda experience. The 1.6 FD does not do such a big car justice, the FD was designed to be a 1.8L onwards car. No point getting a bigger but slower Civic compared to the smaller but more powerful previous ES 1.7 Civic with 130BHP. Anyway the fuel consumption between a 1.6 & 1.8 FD is negligible and if the marginal fuel consumption is detering you, maybe you should not be buying an expensive Civic afterall....

 

Nope, not at all.. just wanted to see what's the best deal for the different pricing of the different models.

 

[Observer]

PM-ed you mate

[Fuelsaver]

  On 10/15/2011 at 10:13 AM, Peregrine said:

Seems like launch of the 9th generation Civic would be around Jan 2012 in Singapore.

See one discussion thread at: http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewtopic.php?t=43486

Looks like slightly small car than current Civic; wheelbase is some 30mm shorter. Wonder whether the cabin space is much reduced.

 

Yes perhaps if anyone is considering buying a brand new current (8th generation FD series) Civic, it would be worthwhile to patiently wait for "end-of-series" sales which usually means lower selling price and/or freebies / service perks.

 

I have been driving a FD1A 1.8 L Auto for over 4 years. Generally satisfied with its performance, reliability and comfort but not too happy with its fuel consumption (compared with my previous 2002 Corolla 1.6 Auto). This model seems quite fuel efficient when you can cruise steadyily at say optmum speed of around 100km/hr but seems "thirsty" in city/urban traffic. And fuel consumption (FC) gets worse over the years.

 

When I parked my car next to BMW 3 and Mercedes C models it is obvious that the cabin of the Civic is much more roomy; the roof is wider and the steeply raked windscreen enlarge the forward space.

 

I recently drove on NW Highway to Malacca. No problem with acceleration and sustaining 130 to 150 km/hr. I refrain from going faster in consideration for safety in traffic, but I think it can do up to 180 km/hr unless cross-wind and road & traffic condition prevent. So in my opinion 1.8 or even 1.6 should be adequate if you drive mostly in Singapore; no need to pay more for a 2.0. Kah Motors during early months of FD Civic did mention that the difference of FC between 1.6 and 1.8 is around 0.5Km/litre.

 

If anyone is buying new cars, please discount the fuel efficiency stated on the label calimed for that model by about 20% before you buy or else you will be disappointed after have bought and monitored FC of your car for a few months!

 

If you wish to have an idea of the polls of cumulative average FC (caFC) for 1.6M, 1.8M and 2.0M and 1.8A see:

http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewtopic.php?t=6972

http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewtopic.php?t=6973

http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewtopic.php?t=6974

http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewtopic.php?t=6970 respectively.

 

Concerning the two Civic that TS (Spicky) is considering buying, the $13K difference for 5 months difference in "age" seems large. Need to look at OMV, COE and mileage (if possible check with L+Kah Motors for "true" figures for last) and physical condition to decide). If I were choosing, I would select 1.8A in Sinagpore traffic rather than manual transmission model. And 1.8A over 1.6A unless the price difference is substantial.

 

Hope you will get a good Civic that suits your requirement and choice of model.

Hi bro, prev drivin stream Rsz; also between 10 - 10.7 kml for local drive. Either I nvr get gd fc ecu or i suspect some voter based on highest / MY highway calculation.

[Peregrine]

  On 10/16/2011 at 1:01 AM, Fuelsaver said:

Hi bro, prev drivin stream Rsz; also between 10 - 10.7 kml for local drive. Either I nvr get gd fc ecu or i suspect some voter based on highest / MY highway calculation.

Your Stream RSZ is also 1.8A with the same engine as the Civic 1.8A right? Its FC is quite good.

 

Yes, although I stated "honest calculated figure" when readers poll their caFC, I think there will always be some who put in their best one-time reading, etc. Referring to that for Civic 1.8A:

http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewtopic.php?t=6970

I would ignore those polls of 15+km/litre. In the early months of the poll, the median figure was about 11.3 km/l now after 234 polls (which is quite a reliable statistical sample), it has slipped to about 10.8 km/l which is even more representative.

 

Since you have been surfing the FD Civic forum, I would like to encourage you and other MCF furum members to look up the thread on Defensive Driving at:

mhttp://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewtopic.php?t=6144.

 

Thanks for sharing and cheers!

[Phantom8088]

if fc is your main concern may I know why not considering hybrid?

[Tanly]

That certain 1.6m hatch has only good 0-100km pickup due to it's close ratio gearbox there's not much power above 120km/hr. Oso top speed sucks

 

  On 10/15/2011 at 5:37 PM, Mecontle said:

1.8m is still slower than a certain 1.6m hatch

 

[13177]

  On 10/15/2011 at 8:58 AM, Steptronic said:

I felt 1.6 was little underpowered (but it is much better than most of the 1.6L cars around). If you can afford depreciation and insurance, go for 2.0L (2.0 L has all the features including the cruise control), that is the best. 1.8 is in between.

 

In my experience with Honda, it is the most reliable and nothing happens to most of the items in car even after 5 years. Honda is good choice and Civic is a super model. All the best.

Quite true, i think civic quite a reliable car even the car is "old". I have a friend his civic already 8 year old, but heard from my friend that overall the car has not much problems, even the interior still looks quite good, even though my friend is someone who dont really take care of car.

[A5SB]

When in doubt, buy the car with higher displacement.

 

There are subtle difference between the FD2, FD1, and FD4. FD4 interior is not factory installed leather seat, those that with leather seats are aftermarket, quality may not be great.

 

FD1 and 2 has factory fitted headunit, which looks much nicer compared to the FD4 unit. FD2 got cruise control compared to FD1.

 

In term of FC, I don't know about FD4 and FD2. I was a FD1M owner and my FC is around 15 - 16km/l.

 

And.... Go manual trans if you have the choice. It's a much better drive, and faster and better FC than the auto trans siblings.

[Mugen85]

  On 10/15/2011 at 4:06 PM, Happily1986 said:

wu yar boh? you driving FD2? Those fellas whom i know driving FD2 clock about 10km/L thereabout on combined urban cycle and you claim its FC is better than 1.8?

 

Figures are taken from the forum and voted by users themselves.

http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewtopic.php?t=...vote=viewresult

http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewtopic.php?t=...vote=viewresult

 

 

[Spicky]

  On 10/16/2011 at 4:40 AM, A5SB said:

When in doubt, buy the car with higher displacement.

 

There are subtle difference between the FD2, FD1, and FD4. FD4 interior is not factory installed leather seat, those that with leather seats are aftermarket, quality may not be great.

 

FD1 and 2 has factory fitted headunit, which looks much nicer compared to the FD4 unit. FD2 got cruise control compared to FD1.

 

In term of FC, I don't know about FD4 and FD2. I was a FD1M owner and my FC is around 15 - 16km/l.

 

And.... Go manual trans if you have the choice. It's a much better drive, and faster and better FC than the auto trans siblings.

Thanks dude, i also think Manual is the best choice.. afterall. What you mean by higher displacement?

[Desmondtwb]

  On 10/16/2011 at 4:44 AM, Spicky said:

Thanks dude, i also think Manual is the best choice.. afterall. What you mean by higher displacement?

 

Higher cc

[Donut]

  On 10/15/2011 at 5:20 AM, Spicky said:

Hi MCF bros,

 

Currently, i am thinking of either getting these 2 models:

 

Civic 1.6M, June 2008 Model, 60k

 

or

 

Civic 1.8M, Nov 2008 Facelifted Model, 73k

 

or

 

Brand New Civic from Kah Motors at an outrageous pricing

 

Good advice needed, i will really need a veteran help here! Pls. Thanks alot... Good weekend!

 

I just saw a 2nd hand civic at turf city dealer. June 2008 1.6A. Asking for 66800k, with extended KM warranty.

 

Worth? Condition still look good.

 

Another one, Jan 2008 1.6A, asking for 64800k. Condition looks even better. Like new, except for balding original Tyres.

[Donut]

If I have the car plate number, how do I check whether got accident or not??

[Steptronic]

  On 10/16/2011 at 6:33 AM, Donut said:

If I have the car plate number, how do I check whether got accident or not??

I do not think anyone can check for accidents with plate number. Best is to go for STA or similar inspection. For 3-4 year cars, it should be mostly B and do not got beyond C at any cost!