Proton_neutron 1st Gear September 15, 2011 Share September 15, 2011 (edited) I thought GM will be phasing out the 1.8NA 140bhp engine to be replaced by the 1.4T 140bhp engine instead? Alpine should request for the 1.6T 180bhp engine to be in the Orlando and Cruze instead. I really don't think the 140bhp is enough for what it essentially is a 7-seater vehicle [be it a 5+2 or a full 7-seater, which I doubt it is]. And at such prices, thanks to the high CAT B COE, I seriously doubt it'll sell well, this Orlando. Then again, speaking of the Citroen C4GP, when the 2.0L engine was replaced with the 1.6T 140bhp years ago, it was pretty popular considering it's selling at the same price as a Wish 2.0L then. But it seems that I hardly see the C4GP on the road now. Where did they all go? And it's not as if the owners traded-in for the Peugeot 5008 with a conventional 6-sp Auto gearbox [the C4GP is using the 6EGS- automated manual gearbox]. The 5008 is even rarer..... And the Toyota Wish is still a pretty common sight on our roads! So..... Edited September 15, 2011 by Proton_neutron ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic September 15, 2011 Share September 15, 2011 146 hp whoaaa.....liddat confirm slowest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proton_neutron 1st Gear September 15, 2011 Share September 15, 2011 whoaaa.....liddat confirm slowest. 0-100kph in 11.8s. For a 1.8L, that's really slow. When a Wish can do it in 11.0s. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic September 15, 2011 Share September 15, 2011 0-100kph in 11.8s. For a 1.8L, that's really slow. When a Wish can do it in 11.0s. to be fair, dun tink anyone buys a 7-seat SUV for dragging 0-100. but in daily urban trafiic, it'll prob feel very sluggish. somemore NA low torque. i tried the 1.8L cruze b4 which is prob at least 200kg lighter, and it oredi felt sluggish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proton_neutron 1st Gear September 15, 2011 Share September 15, 2011 to be fair, dun tink anyone buys a 7-seat SUV for dragging 0-100. but in daily urban trafiic, it'll prob feel very sluggish. somemore NA low torque. i tried the 1.8L cruze b4 which is prob at least 200kg lighter, and it oredi felt sluggish. Yeap. I agree, people shopping for MPV, probably isn't looking at the performance, handling, speed....etc. They just want a transport to be able to get their family from point A to point B. But I suppose what's important for a 1.8L is a decently quiet engine? An engine that is able to go along with the traffic that isn't shouty or protests when revved?? The Wish does this job well. I doubt the Orlando does it this well. And the price of the Orlando puts it very closely to the $134k Chevy Captiva 2.4LT SUV..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1f2 Clutched September 15, 2011 Share September 15, 2011 Yeap. I agree, people shopping for MPV, probably isn't looking at the performance, handling, speed....etc. They just want a transport to be able to get their family from point A to point B. But I suppose what's important for a 1.8L is a decently quiet engine? An engine that is able to go along with the traffic that isn't shouty or protests when revved?? The Wish does this job well. I doubt the Orlando does it this well. And the price of the Orlando puts it very closely to the $134k Chevy Captiva 2.4LT SUV..... yes, i really wonder, people keep talk about performance in mpv ! About the price Orlando and Captiva, i think it is make different on the next 10 years road tax Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proton_neutron 1st Gear September 15, 2011 Share September 15, 2011 yes, i really wonder, people keep talk about performance in mpv ! About the price Orlando and Captiva, i think it is make different on the next 10 years road tax Well, besides the difference in the road tax between a 1.8L and 2.4L, and the fuel bills, seriously, don't you think AM is shooting themselves in the leg with such close prices between the Orlando and Captiva??? The Orlando does look a bit like a van though, thanks to the boxy styling. No getting away from that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricklyb Clutched September 15, 2011 Author Share September 15, 2011 0-100kph in 11.8s. For a 1.8L, that's really slow. When a Wish can do it in 11.0s. but wish cos $140+k compare to orlando 120+k! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricklyb Clutched September 15, 2011 Author Share September 15, 2011 Well, besides the difference in the road tax between a 1.8L and 2.4L, and the fuel bills, seriously, don't you think AM is shooting themselves in the leg with such close prices between the Orlando and Captiva??? The Orlando does look a bit like a van though, thanks to the boxy styling. No getting away from that! mi too found it like a van but the inside look good! cruize control/navtrak/6 speed AT.....etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricklyb Clutched September 15, 2011 Author Share September 15, 2011 (edited) here the spec: SKMBT_42111091516480.pdf Edited September 15, 2011 by Patricklyb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1f2 Clutched September 15, 2011 Share September 15, 2011 Orlando wheelbase 2760, length 4652 Captiva wheelbase 2707, length 4673 I wonder if the 3rd row in Orlando more spacious then Captiva * compare with Wish wheelbase 2750, length 4590 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proton_neutron 1st Gear September 15, 2011 Share September 15, 2011 Orlando wheelbase 2760, length 4652 Captiva wheelbase 2707, length 4673 I wonder if the 3rd row in Orlando more spacious then Captiva * compare with Wish wheelbase 2750, length 4590 All these cars are 5+2 lah. Can't take full-sized adults in the 3rd row one. So why you bother about the 3rd row seats being more spacious??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terenceleo Clutched September 15, 2011 Share September 15, 2011 Is it MIK? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricklyb Clutched September 15, 2011 Author Share September 15, 2011 Is it MIK? correct........MIK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khee Neutral Newbie September 16, 2011 Share September 16, 2011 I thought GM will be phasing out the 1.8NA 140bhp engine to be replaced by the 1.4T 140bhp engine instead? Alpine should request for the 1.6T 180bhp engine to be in the Orlando and Cruze instead. I really don't think the 140bhp is enough for what it essentially is a 7-seater vehicle [be it a 5+2 or a full 7-seater, which I doubt it is]. And at such prices, thanks to the high CAT B COE, I seriously doubt it'll sell well, this Orlando. Then again, speaking of the Citroen C4GP, when the 2.0L engine was replaced with the 1.6T 140bhp years ago, it was pretty popular considering it's selling at the same price as a Wish 2.0L then. But it seems that I hardly see the C4GP on the road now. Where did they all go? And it's not as if the owners traded-in for the Peugeot 5008 with a conventional 6-sp Auto gearbox [the C4GP is using the 6EGS- automated manual gearbox]. The 5008 is even rarer..... And the Toyota Wish is still a pretty common sight on our roads! So..... Still alot of people worry parts and repair for conti cars... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proton_neutron 1st Gear September 16, 2011 Share September 16, 2011 Still alot of people worry parts and repair for conti cars... True. The car may be made-in-Korea, but engines are still GM-engineered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluboxed 1st Gear September 16, 2011 Share September 16, 2011 True. The car may be made-in-Korea, but engines are still GM-engineered. not sure about quality issue though.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proton_neutron 1st Gear September 16, 2011 Share September 16, 2011 not sure about quality issue though.. What do you expect? It's based on the Cruze. Expect hard interior plastics to be used througout the cabin....Haha! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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