Mazda Singapore For Sale ?

[Ingenius]

i think the problem with mazda is, the cars appeal to young at heart drivers, but not the mass market, as compared to toyota, nissan , honda and alike. thats why you will never see mazda 3 or any of the other models being top seller in the respective category. my fil, sold off his new mazda 3 after 1 year, as the interior was small and the door opening too low. the front cockpit was needlessly long, i.e. not practical. other than that, it was a car that encourages spirited handling and exudes confidence in good poise.

Edited September 5, 2011 by Ingenius

[13177]

For me, i dont view Honda cars as premium car, as i always find Honda cars overpriced! Whether the COE is low or high.

Edited September 5, 2011 by 13177

[Akiyo]

i think the problem with mazda is, the cars appeal to young at heart drivers, but not the mass market, as compared to toyota, nissan , honda and alike. thats why you will never see mazda 3 or any of the other models being top seller in the respective category. my fil, sold off his new mazda 3 after 1 year, as the interior was small and the door opening too low. the front cockpit was needlessly long, i.e. not practical. however, in other areas it appeals ot the heart.

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I agree with you on this point. Mazda is always trying to offer an alternative choice to the masses. To me, the design of their cars are sportier, compared to Toyota, Nissan, Honda and other Jap makes. They always want to be unique (e.g. Rotary powered sports cars) or rather be like the 'oddball' of the jap car makers. However, in the present economic situation, they may struggle. But then again, who isn't?

Edited September 5, 2011 by Akiyo

[Mockngbrd]

Look at Honda's sporty model at the moment, CRZ.. certainly won't set your hearts pounding, unless you are talking about the Mugen version but that cost a lot and is a one-off project. So with slightly more top up of cash, one can get a Scirocco 2.0 or GTI (for example) which are also FF and more comfortable and faster.

throw a SC into the CRZ and i'll consider.

[Akiyo]

Look at Honda's sporty model at the moment, CRZ.. certainly won't set your hearts pounding, unless you are talking about the Mugen version but that cost a lot and is a one-off project. So with slightly more top up of cash, one can get a Scirocco 2.0 or GTI (for example) which are also FF and more comfortable and faster.

throw a SC into the CRZ and i'll consider.

 

hmm.. think there are a couple of workshop overseas working on this or have already tried..I'm not too sure on that one though.. Maybe our local ones may also think about this.. but even the SC/TC or Mugen tuned (which is SC too) CRZ is no Type R... sad to say..

Edited September 5, 2011 by Akiyo

[Felipe]

From the newspaper article I've read, it seems that many people were already interested in this Mazda franchise years back, way before the high COE prices.

 

But now, just renting the showroom in Alexandra Road costs Mazda Motors $200-250k/mth. Their overheads are simply too high for sustainability with such poor sales, and intense competition in the 1.6L and 2.0L saloon class, especially from the Koreans.

 

MM made the mistake of buying the Alexandra showroom. and they're selling their 2.0L models at the price of Volvos. it's hard to imagine survival.

[Felipe]

I agree with you on this point. Mazda is always trying to offer an alternative choice to the masses. To me, the design of their cars are sportier, compared to Toyota, Nissan, Honda and other Jap makes. They always want to be unique (e.g. Rotary powered sports cars) or rather be like the 'oddball' of the jap car makers. However, in the present economic situation, they may struggle. But then again, who isn't?

 

bm, merc, audi isn't. at least a while, i was quite shocked entering the bm audi showroom couple of months back and it was packed!

[Kar_lover]

 

I m quite surprised that Mazda "die" first. I tot Suzuki and Subaru would die earlier. Not to mentiont eh Protons, Peroduas and Cherries.....I would still choose Honda and Mazda before i consider Toyota.

 

 

 

 

[Roh96]

It is not only the rental and overheads that cause them to lose money. They also price their cars out of the market. The thai made Mz2 sedan cost more than Vios, Mz3 price as high as a Civic 1.6 and Altis, Mz2 hatchback cost more than Jazz, Mz6 cost more than Camry. Tell me who will choose a Mazda. Although some ppl may agree Mazda car provide better handling, but the overall market image of Mazda car is "underpower and fuel drinker". Don't talk about performance model like RX8, MX5 and MPS, if we only look at mass market model(Mz2, 3, 5, 6), i feel they should price their car below Toyota and Honda. They should be compete with 2nd tier Jap brand like Nissan, Suzuki and Daihatsu. I would say a direct competitor should be Nissan.

[Felipe]

i guess made in Japan has that premium over the thai made toyos and hondas, model to model comparison

[Darryn]

I m quite surprised that Mazda "die" first. I tot Suzuki and Subaru would die earlier. Not to mentiont eh Protons, Peroduas and Cherries.....I would still choose Honda and Mazda before i consider Toyota.

 

Subaru also suffering - and they do have a certain "unique" market and product that will alwas guarantee a certain level of sales. Cars like the exiga and forester don't have any natural competitors here, so they do have that advantage.

 

Part of the problem with the pricing is that they (mazda) may have been pursuing a "cost plus" strategy - with costs artificially inflated by the new showroom.

[Soya]

I m quite surprised that Mazda "die" first. I tot Suzuki and Subaru would die earlier. Not to mentiont eh Protons, Peroduas and Cherries.....I would still choose Honda and Mazda before i consider Toyota.

 

 

suzuki and subaru got rich parents i.e. inchscape and tan chong. so unlikely to die off. at most, shareholders kpkb.

 

proton, perodua and cherry oredi zombie state long b4 the coe hikes.

 

mazda's case very unfortunate. good products but tink they hide over at macpherson for too long n failed to grow the brand earlier until it's too late.

[Kar_lover]

suzuki and subaru got rich parents i.e. inchscape and tan chong. so unlikely to die off. at most, shareholders kpkb.

 

U see wat happen to IBM and recently HP? Loss making units chopped off. And those are very big & rich parents! So even with rich parents, the parents should also chop off all the useless kids before shareprice affected.....err, motorimage under tan chong meh?

[Soya]

U see wat happen to IBM and recently HP? Loss making units chopped off. And those are very big & rich parents! So even with rich parents, the parents should also chop off all the useless kids before shareprice affected.....err, motorimage under tan chong meh?

 

 

motorimage is under tan chong international limited and listed on hkse. glenn tan is oso the grandson of the original tan which founded tan chong motors, i tink.

[Mecontle]

from my "outsider" view, i never drove a mazda before, mazda is only smart at exterior styling

[Soya]

....Cars like the exiga and forester don't have any natural competitors here, so they do have that advantage.....

 

 

thank goodness no other competitors. oredi got eye-sore looking at these 2....

[Soya]

from my "outsider" view, i never drove a mazda before, mazda is only smart at exterior styling

 

 

not true. mazda's overall packaging and chassis design is superior to the usual thaiyota or honda swadeekup. prob their weakest area is in the engine dept, esp on the lower end 1.6L models.

[Zze121]

All along Kah sale is base on margin, BM is on volume, while some mention their parent r rich like C&C for Mit last time.

MM is one without any of the above value running in constant for years, so when they move to Alexandra I think its a wrong move liao cos he is not those big gun but trying to stand side by side with them.