Pirelli Cinturato P7

[Roberttan]

Can I ask a different question.  How is Pirelli Scorpion Verde compared to Pirelli P Zero.  On par?

just me sharing

P zero is the flag ship model of Pirelli , they do have for tire size for SUV and Luxury and mid power car not just many thought only for Sports car.

for SUV

Verde Scorpion is a touring tire for Luxury SUV & CROSSOVER(pure On road)

they do have a All season version of Verde also can be use for Light truck 4x4 and applicable for some off road condition 

As for P zero mainly catered for High Power SUV and Crossover.

[Kinklpet]

To me, CSC is probably good for touring but definitely nothing spirited. Wet performance is quite good when new but wear rate is too high and you'd have to change it out sooner.

AGREED !!! My CSC5 worn down to about half thread depth in just after around 8k  .

I don;t mind changing tyres every year or every 1.5 years but such high wear rate is simply beyond my imagination 

The ride quality of the CSC5 is so far good. Wet handling is ichiban  . that 1 no complain. 

 

Now I am split among the choices for my next replacement:

i) Eagle F1 Asy 3

ii) Pirelli P7

iii) Dunlop Sports Maxx RT2 (not sure if I can find this in SG)

 

Btw my tyres are 245/45/17 on E250. 

In fact I like the performance of Michelin PS4 on my previous ride (225/45/17 on Accord) but the noise was unbearable 

Any suggestions? 

[Mzrmazda3]

Called up one of the authorized dealer for the pricing of Pirelli Cinturato P7 for my ride, they mentioned that county of origin is Tiong Kok aka China for my tyre size.

Any comment on the Tiong Kok Made Pirelli?

 

Edited November 11, 2019 by Mzrmazda3

[inlinesix]

FYI Pirelli is owned by ChemChina since 2016 

[Columbian78]

I changed to a set of new P7 Cint Run flat yesterday.

Size 225/50/17, $205, Leong seng.

Made in Romania. This was only printed on the inner side wall of the tyre which would not be visible once installed on car.

This is my first time trying run flat. Only 1 obvious reason why I want it. Concerns with harshness but recent sharings had been that run flats had improved and P7 seems to be fine. So go ahead.

I am happy with the initial impression. The dreaded initial shock of noise or harsh ride were not there at all. Will not comment much until new tyre symptoms wear off.

These are the tyres I had on this car (sylphy sss): CPC2 -> GR100 -> PS4 -> F1A3 -> F1A3 -> P7cintRunFlat

Can see I am a F1A3 fan. Almost going to slip on F1A5 but last minute decided to try run flats which F1A5 don't have.

One thing I had already observed is that run flat tyres do not seem to be sensitive to the air pressure. I mean I don't observe any difference in ride quality when I reduced the tyre pressure from around 280kpa (shop pumped) to 230/210 (car spec). Usually for my previous normal tyres, the effect will be obvious. Maybe run flat has strong sidewalls so the air pressure has less impact on the side wall strength.

If this goes well, my future tyres will all be run flats.

 

[Beregond]

1 minute ago, Columbian78 said:

One thing I had already observed is that run flat tyres do not seem to be sensitive to the air pressure. I mean I don't observe any difference in ride quality when I reduced the tyre pressure from around 280kpa (shop pumped) to 230/210 (car spec). Usually for my previous normal tyres, the effect will be obvious. Maybe run flat has strong sidewalls so the air pressure has less impact on the side wall strength.

u need to maintain the correct the correct tyre pressure despite u cannot spot the different in the ride quality or the inflaction of the sidewall.

even with 0 tyre pressure u still can drive around, and u might not spot any different till the tyre become damage, because all the pressure and weight is hold up by the sidewall only.

it will crack and break off after some time of driving

[Blueray]

friend just got a set of P7s from autoworld care at lok yang. 

he is happy with the purchase.

 

[inlinesix]

12 minutes ago, Columbian78 said:

I changed to a set of new P7 Cint Run flat yesterday.

Size 225/50/17, $205, Leong seng.

Made in Romania. This was only printed on the inner side wall of the tyre which would not be visible once installed on car.

This is my first time trying run flat. Only 1 obvious reason why I want it. Concerns with harshness but recent sharings had been that run flats had improved and P7 seems to be fine. So go ahead.

I am happy with the initial impression. The dreaded initial shock of noise or harsh ride were not there at all. Will not comment much until new tyre symptoms wear off.

These are the tyres I had on this car (sylphy sss): CPC2 -> GR100 -> PS4 -> F1A3 -> F1A3 -> P7cintRunFlat

Can see I am a F1A3 fan. Almost going to slip on F1A5 but last minute decided to try run flats which F1A5 don't have.

One thing I had already observed is that run flat tyres do not seem to be sensitive to the air pressure. I mean I don't observe any difference in ride quality when I reduced the tyre pressure from around 280kpa (shop pumped) to 230/210 (car spec). Usually for my previous normal tyres, the effect will be obvious. Maybe run flat has strong sidewalls so the air pressure has less impact on the side wall strength.

If this goes well, my future tyres will all be run flats.

For RFT, you need to reduce tyre pressure from factory spec by about 10%.

[Mkl22]

Unless you are a puncture king, I don’t see the need for run flats in Singapore. Just put a TPMS and carry a pump. 

[Columbian78]

2 hours ago, Beregond said:

u need to maintain the correct the correct tyre pressure despite u cannot spot the different in the ride quality or the inflaction of the sidewall.

even with 0 tyre pressure u still can drive around, and u might not spot any different till the tyre become damage, because all the pressure and weight is hold up by the sidewall only.

it will crack and break off after some time of driving

 

Yes, I will maintain correct pressure. I know if the tyre is deflated I should only drive slow and short and get it remedied soon. I have internal tpms and analog gauge.

With my previous tyres I tweaked the air pressure alot to find my optimum sweet point, as I changed hardware. With run flats, seems like just stick to the default oem safe specs.

[Columbian78]

56 minutes ago, Mkl22 said:

Unless you are a puncture king, I don’t see the need for run flats in Singapore. Just put a TPMS and carry a pump. 

I have no experience of puncture. It is a fact that the probability of my getting a puncture or seriously leaking tyre on any day is not zero. If i do not ferry kid or wife, then I probably will not be looking at run flats.

The point of run flat for me is that the 1 great pro far outweighs all the little cons.

I do have tpms and electrical pump in the car. I think they all compliment each other as a safety package.

[ER-3682]

4 hours ago, Columbian78 said:

I changed to a set of new P7 Cint Run flat yesterday.

Size 225/50/17, $205, Leong seng.

Made in Romania. This was only printed on the inner side wall of the tyre which would not be visible once installed on car.

This is my first time trying run flat. Only 1 obvious reason why I want it. Concerns with harshness but recent sharings had been that run flats had improved and P7 seems to be fine. So go ahead.

I am happy with the initial impression. The dreaded initial shock of noise or harsh ride were not there at all. Will not comment much until new tyre symptoms wear off.

These are the tyres I had on this car (sylphy sss): CPC2 -> GR100 -> PS4 -> F1A3 -> F1A3 -> P7cintRunFlat

Can see I am a F1A3 fan. Almost going to slip on F1A5 but last minute decided to try run flats which F1A5 don't have.

One thing I had already observed is that run flat tyres do not seem to be sensitive to the air pressure. I mean I don't observe any difference in ride quality when I reduced the tyre pressure from around 280kpa (shop pumped) to 230/210 (car spec). Usually for my previous normal tyres, the effect will be obvious. Maybe run flat has strong sidewalls so the air pressure has less impact on the side wall strength.

If this goes well, my future tyres will all be run flats.

 

Alot of BMW Owners changed out their RFT on the Day they Collected their Cars[Inc Me] & You changed from Non RFT to RFT...😂...well  monitor your Car's Fuel Economy...RFT are well know as a heavier Tyre...

[Columbian78]

2 hours ago, ER-3682 said:

Alot of BMW Owners changed out their RFT on the Day they Collected their Cars[Inc Me] & You changed from Non RFT to RFT...😂...well  monitor your Car's Fuel Economy...RFT are well know as a heavier Tyre...

BMW cannot compare with nissan sylphy.

I had been doing my homework on rft here and I am aware why some of those bmw drivers change, different objective me. Am also aware more drivers (incl bmw) adopting rft and saying they are better now. This is why i finally decided to give it a try. Never try, never know.

Separately, fuel economy is never my concern. Too much whining about fc fc fc fc fc in local car forums and social groups.

[Rskc]

8 hours ago, Columbian78 said:

I changed to a set of new P7 Cint Run flat yesterday.

Size 225/50/17, $205, Leong seng.

Made in Romania. This was only printed on the inner side wall of the tyre which would not be visible once installed on car.

This is my first time trying run flat. Only 1 obvious reason why I want it. Concerns with harshness but recent sharings had been that run flats had improved and P7 seems to be fine. So go ahead.

I am happy with the initial impression. The dreaded initial shock of noise or harsh ride were not there at all. Will not comment much until new tyre symptoms wear off.

These are the tyres I had on this car (sylphy sss): CPC2 -> GR100 -> PS4 -> F1A3 -> F1A3 -> P7cintRunFlat

Can see I am a F1A3 fan. Almost going to slip on F1A5 but last minute decided to try run flats which F1A5 don't have.

One thing I had already observed is that run flat tyres do not seem to be sensitive to the air pressure. I mean I don't observe any difference in ride quality when I reduced the tyre pressure from around 280kpa (shop pumped) to 230/210 (car spec). Usually for my previous normal tyres, the effect will be obvious. Maybe run flat has strong sidewalls so the air pressure has less impact on the side wall strength.

If this goes well, my future tyres will all be run flats.

 

Bro, I found out that there is the new P7C2, superceding P7. Did you get P7 or P7C2?

[Columbian78]

4 minutes ago, Rskc said:

Bro, I found out that there is the new P7C2, superceding P7. Did you get P7 or P7C2?

I got P7 Cinturato, as indicated on the product sticker pasted on the tyre. Not aware of P7C2.

[Rskc]

3 hours ago, ER-3682 said:

Alot of BMW Owners changed out their RFT on the Day they Collected their Cars[Inc Me] & You changed from Non RFT to RFT...😂...well  monitor your Car's Fuel Economy...RFT are well know as a heavier Tyre...

I am on my 3rd bimmer and I am still on RFT. 😄 The peace of mind is priceless. Once my spouse (main car user) scrapped the rear non rft of previous jap ride on kerb so badly that it lost air by the time she got back to office and she did not even notice! What a scare. Another time she had a puncture on bimmer and the sensor rang cos tyre lost pressure. I was in meeting then when she called, I said calmly to her to continue to drive to office at 80kmh and not to worry. The tyre would hold. I travel for work very often too. For me, it is RFT for family.  

Edited January 23, 2021 by Rskc

[Rskc]

9 minutes ago, Columbian78 said:

I got P7 Cinturato, as indicated on the product sticker pasted on the tyre. Not aware of P7C2.

Thanks! Trying to see if anyone tried P7C2. It should be even better than P7. 

[Rskc]

1 hour ago, Columbian78 said:

BMW cannot compare with nissan sylphy.

I had been doing my homework on rft here and I am aware why some of those bmw drivers change, different objective me. Am also aware more drivers (incl bmw) adopting rft and saying they are better now. This is why i finally decided to give it a try. Never try, never know.

Separately, fuel economy is never my concern. Too much whining about fc fc fc fc fc in local car forums and social groups.

Ya agree. Too much emphasis on fc. With today's efficient engines, advancement of tyres and I stay in town, I am still getting a respectable 11km/l. I am not exactly light footed.