MCF Pre- Presidential Election Poll: Lets vote!

[Jim]

I dont support TT, but with the benefit of hindsight, I have to agree with him that building the MRT system was a little premature, in 1981. Even today, bus companies are barred from creating bus routes that directly replicate the same path as the MRT, unless they have explicit permission from the PTC. As a result, existing bus routes have to take "scenic" detours and become quite unusable.

 

If no such rule existed, SMRT may have bled a lot of money and looked like a white elephant in the early years. If the construction was delayed well into the 84-86 recession, things may have worked out a bit better, especially since the MRT was "nice to have" but not essential before the introduction of ERP (leading to an enlarged car population) and the increased intake of foreigners, both of which only happen well into the 90s.

[Joseph22]

I dont support TT, but with the benefit of hindsight, I have to agree with him that building the MRT system was a little premature, in 1981. Even today, bus companies are barred from creating bus routes that directly replicate the same path as the MRT, unless they have explicit permission from the PTC. As a result, existing bus routes have to take "scenic" detours and become quite unusable.

 

If no such rule existed, SMRT may have bled a lot of money and looked like a white elephant in the early years. If the construction was delayed well into the 84-86 recession, things may have worked out a bit better, especially since the MRT was "nice to have" but not essential before the introduction of ERP (leading to an enlarged car population) and the increased intake of foreigners, both of which only happen well into the 90s.

 

err.. this is called good forsight leh.. build before the crowd come in.. if build when the crowd is here. its called reactive..

 

so you want reactive gahment or proactive gahmen?

[Windchoco]

Internet always got oppo voices loudest. But internet voices don't necessary represent the real majority

 

This is a phenomenon quite common these days. Heck, someone should do an academic research on this.

 

Politics and Social Media

Edited August 24, 2011 by Windchoco

[Axela72]

Since this is a car forum, ppls should more concerns about owning a car matter. Why can't a person when manage to purchase a car with 10 years of COE, can change as many time of car within the 10 yrs life span of COE? Like that, not only the cars on the road are newer & safer (due to new car and newer technology), the number of car remain on the road is will still remain the same.

 

Instead of changing a new car, where we need to forgone the present car's COE and buy another new one. Any idea what is the logic behind of not implement my thought above?

 

If the new President can made my above suggestion materialize, I will vote for him

[Joseph22]

Since this is a car forum, ppls should more concerns about owning a car matter. Why can't a person when manage to purchase a car with 10 years of COE, can change as many time of car within the 10 yrs life span of COE? Like that, not only the cars on the road are newer & safer (due to new car and newer technology), the number of car remain on the road is will still remain the same.

 

Instead of changing a new car, where we need to forgone the present car's COE and buy another new one. Any idea what is the logic behind of not implement my thought above?

 

If the new President can made my above suggestion materialize, I will vote for him

but the green aspect of the car come into picture liao

you wasting natural resources like that.

[KARTer]

but the green aspect of the car come into picture liao

you wasting natural resources like that.

if gahmen is serious about keeping our place/space green, why not they give more incentives to pple who drive green-cars??......... hope the new prez can do something about this, and not allow gahmen to preach one thing but do another...

[Joseph22]

if gahmen is serious about keeping our place/space green, why not they give more incentives to pple who drive green-cars??......... hope the new prez can do something about this, and not allow gahmen to preach one thing but do another...

 

They do give incentive for clean car but those are still very expnsive and that they dont think diesel is clean.. (someone mention in this forum what particle is not clear that is cancerous.)

[Jim]

Since this is a car forum, ppls should more concerns about owning a car matter. Why can't a person when manage to purchase a car with 10 years of COE, can change as many time of car within the 10 yrs life span of COE? Like that, not only the cars on the road are newer & safer (due to new car and newer technology), the number of car remain on the road is will still remain the same.

 

Instead of changing a new car, where we need to forgone the present car's COE and buy another new one. Any idea what is the logic behind of not implement my thought above?

 

If the new President can made my above suggestion materialize, I will vote for him

 

You do realise this is a "problem" only because your existing COE was bought cheap. If your COE is 50+k and the current COE is 10+k, this is not a problem, right?

 

Unless you are lobbying for a constitutional change to turn Singapore into a US style Executive President system, you SHOULD NOT vote for anybody promising changes to the COE because that will be an empty promise.

[Freestylers09]

err.. this is called good forsight leh.. build before the crowd come in.. if build when the crowd is here. its called reactive..

 

so you want reactive gahment or proactive gahmen?

 

 

quite true in someway

 

some actually planned 10-15 years ago when some buildings are built..a key masterplan have for these buildings to fulfil for MRT plan

 

got once i handling a building, wah a underground tunnel already built and vacant for 12 years ago for MRT..

Edited August 24, 2011 by Freestylers09

[Joseph22]

quite true in someway

 

some actually planned 10-15 years ago when some buildings are built..a key masterplan have for these buildings to fulfil for MRT plan

 

got once i handling a building, wah a underground tunnel already built and vacant for 12 years ago for MRT..

 

yeah our gahmen very smart alot of things plan forward dont know how many years.. only that they didnt let us know. too many secret liao on this small island.

[Gukubird]

Yup, I agreed with J22 about gov planning a many years ahead but that's was since independent when the 1st gen leader plan and plot the master plan for next 20 to 30 years . Now the master plan has expired and the current gov is clueless on what to do next so they switch from proactive to reactive or at least this is what I thought

[Nunchakubruce]

You do realise this is a "problem" only because your existing COE was bought cheap. If your COE is 50+k and the current COE is 10+k, this is not a problem, right?

 

Unless you are lobbying for a constitutional change to turn Singapore into a US style Executive President system, you SHOULD NOT vote for anybody promising changes to the COE because that will be an empty promise.

Wonderful Rebuttal.

[Tom_kkh]

yeah our gahmen very smart alot of things plan forward dont know how many years.. only that they didnt let us know. too many secret liao on this small island.

 

hell yeah! eg. taxes,taxes and taxes!

[Joseph22]

Yup, I agreed with J22 about gov planning a many years ahead but that's was since independent when the 1st gen leader plan and plot the master plan for next 20 to 30 years . Now the master plan has expired and the current gov is clueless on what to do next so they switch from proactive to reactive or at least this is what I thought

 

not really, its more like they holding back the plan.. dont know for fark??

 

the whole MRT look about is out since dont know how many decades back liao now i think at most 10% complete nia.

[Gukubird]

Exactly as what i mentioned eariler "Clueless on what to do next"

 

1) Housing prices - reactive

2) Congested Transport - reactive

3) Inflated YOG cost - with all the talent they have, this is the best they can muster?

4) escalating medical bill - bomb waiting to go off

5) a society dvided - another time bomb

 

 

to me the current batch is only capable of pushing blame, increase cost or saving fainted passerby

[Axela72]

You do realise this is a "problem" only because your existing COE was bought cheap. If your COE is 50+k and the current COE is 10+k, this is not a problem, right?

 

No, even when during my car COE is higher than the existing COE period, I find that it is still difficult to change car. Just like when COE is low, dealer mark down your car price when you purchase your car at high COE period. When COE is high, dealer say you bought your car at low COE price, so can only sell at low price. Unless you want to make money out from COE, I rather bought 1 COE for the whole 10 yrs and don't worry about the COE for next 10 yrs and change my car any time I feel like it by paying OMV X2.2 + 15 to 20k for the next new car.

Edited August 24, 2011 by Axela72

[BoyBoyBalls]

No, even when during my car COE is higher than the existing COE period, I find that it is still difficult to change car. Just like when COE is low, dealer mark down your car price when you purchase your car at high COE period. When COE is high, dealer say you bought your car at low COE price, so can only sell at low price. Unless you want to make money out from COE, I rather bought 1 COE for the whole 10 yrs and don't worry about the COE for next 10 yrs and change my car any time I feel like it by paying OMV X2.2 + 15 to 20k for the next new car.

 

his argument is a slipper slope.

 

by right we dont even need COE. a simple balloting system would suffice. Why is this practiced? Because the rich are favoured

[Joseph22]

Exactly as what i mentioned eariler "Clueless on what to do next"

 

1) Housing prices - reactive

2) Congested Transport - reactive

3) Inflated YOG cost - with all the talent they have, this is the best they can muster?

4) escalating medical bill - bomb waiting to go off

5) a society dvided - another time bomb

 

 

to me the current batch is only capable of pushing blame, increase cost or saving fainted passerby

 

i wont say clueless..

 

point 1 and 2.. if they biuild first the same batch of ppl who complain now will complain they anyhow spend money...

 

the rest as follow.. even if they do the correct things, those same person will still complain.