PRC Student with dual citizenship awarded President's Schola

[Jim]

I will generally consider a dual citizen like her to be Singaporean enough but I always thought President's Scholarship is a very symbolic award and a role model for Singaporean students. What does this award mean? She is not even serving military service. I feel we Singaporeans are like that old 46 year old first wife of the government who stuck with them through the hard times when they were poor and now that they are rich and found fancy and young PRC mistresses and is starting to hiam how old and ugly we have become.

 

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[13177]

Her President's Scholarship will be terminated when she reached 21 year old and if she did not give up her china citizenship.

[Gukubird]

Her President's Scholarship will be terminated when she reached 21 year old and if she did not give up her china citizenship.

 

Any idea how much will she has spent by then?

[Kiadaw]

Singapore got dual Citizenship?

[Sunlight]

i thought Singapore dont allow dual citizenship?

 

Or is it NO DUAL CITIZENSHIP only for local born singaporean??

[Wolfy3769]

what the odd she will keep her singapore citizenship when she reach 21?

 

if there is a chance of she keeping China citizenship (no matter how remote), the scholarship should not be offer to her..

how ppl in the board award the scholoarship in the first place? if really no suitable candidate (which i dont think so), actually can keep the quota for next yr one mah...

 

 

[Greggywong]

what the odd she will keep her singapore citizenship when she reach 21?

 

if there is a chance of she keeping China citizenship (no matter how remote), the scholarship should not be offer to her..

how ppl in the board award the scholoarship in the first place? if really no suitable candidate (which i dont think so), actually can keep the quota for next yr one mah...

 

Seriously, you think these people care? I have a Chinaman colleague converted to be a Singaporean citizen...even went through National Service but he has zero loyalty to Singapore. He even told me if he wanted to migrate back to China....China would welcome him back with open arms.

[13177]

Seriously, you think these people care? I have a Chinaman colleague converted to be a Singaporean citizen...even went through National Service but he has zero loyalty to Singapore. He even told me if he wanted to migrate back to China....China would welcome him back with open arms.

Haha, we cannot blame those FTs who converted to citizen with zero loyalty to sg. I guess even those who are 100% born and breed in sg might also have no loyalty towards their own country.

[Steptronic]

i thought Singapore dont allow dual citizenship?

 

Or is it NO DUAL CITIZENSHIP only for local born singaporean??

In Singapore, Foreign born child can keep both the passports till the child reaches 21. I guess this is true with Singaporean children going outside.

[Littleknown]

Haha, we cannot blame those FTs who converted to citizen with zero loyalty to sg. I guess even those who are 100% born and breed in sg might also have no loyalty towards their own country.

 

If they give me President scholarship, I would be loyal.

 

But if I lose it to a foreigner who just convert 5 years ago, speaks different, have mobile parents who can take flight easily in the same way they left their own country, I will ask - should I really be loyal anyway?

[Kopites]

Haha, we cannot blame those FTs who converted to citizen with zero loyalty to sg. I guess even those who are 100% born and breed in sg might also have no loyalty towards their own country.

 

Don't blame me (us) for not showing loyalty to our "beloved" singapore.

 

7, 8 years ago i would feel gulit for not showing my love/loyatly to singapore. Now....i don't give a damn. When time come i will uproot just like the "trend" import by FT.

[Wt_know]

it's nice to have 21 years of dual citizenship before decide

 

In Singapore, Foreign born child can keep both the passports till the child reaches 21. I guess this is true with Singaporean children going outside.

Edited August 13, 2011 by Wt_know

[Blackyv]

Seriously, you think these people care? I have a Chinaman colleague converted to be a Singaporean citizen...even went through National Service but he has zero loyalty to Singapore. He even told me if he wanted to migrate back to China....China would welcome him back with open arms.

 

 

he BS u lar..... im surrounded by many converted prc and when i asked them the possibility of converting back to china citizenship,,, their answer is over their dead body they want them back because they have bil of population and those converted, in the eyes of china now is like a traitor and no way they will accept a traitor back....

[Wt_know]

depends on which province and town.

if 2nd or 3rd tier, they can return to live happily ever after

 

he BS u lar..... im surrounded by many converted prc and when i asked them the possibility of converting back to china citizenship,,, their answer is over their dead body they want them back because they have bil of population and those converted, in the eyes of china now is like a traitor and no way they will accept a traitor back....

Edited August 13, 2011 by Wt_know

[Littleknown]

he BS u lar..... im surrounded by many converted prc and when i asked them the possibility of converting back to china citizenship,,, their answer is over their dead body they want them back because they have bil of population and those converted, in the eyes of china now is like a traitor and no way they will accept a traitor back....

 

Got Chinese saying - there is no worse traitor than one who turns his back on money.

[Bystander50]

Seriously, you think these people care? I have a Chinaman colleague converted to be a Singaporean citizen...even went through National Service but he has zero loyalty to Singapore. He even told me if he wanted to migrate back to China....China would welcome him back with open arms.

 

What to do, SAF and the government naively believe that by taking the oath, these foreigners converts will be loyal to the country.

Like that everyone can go take oath and know government secrets.

 

Seriously, we all know the real reasons why foreigners want to come here - to escape the economic conditions back home.

Just like the pinyo in the NHC case, how much she'll earn as a clerk back home, or worst, would she even get a job back home? Will she even enjoy the standard of living back home?

And do you think these people will be loyal when their minds are to get away from proverty? When better terms are available elsewhere, these people will run towards that direction.

 

 

[Bystander50]

he BS u lar..... im surrounded by many converted prc and when i asked them the possibility of converting back to china citizenship,,, their answer is over their dead body they want them back because they have bil of population and those converted, in the eyes of china now is like a traitor and no way they will accept a traitor back....

 

If one day PRC is more open and democratic, do you think these people will not want to go back?

The conditions now are not ideal for them at the moment. Those that came here already enjoyed city living, now go back to cities like Shanghai where housing is equally expensive and most would not want to return back to the countryside.

 

Moreover, PRC has such a huge population, there are not enough jobs to go around for everyone. Go back could mean jobless for some time and they've no lack of talents. You think those educated ones would want to go back and live in the countryside and farm?

 

I've ex-colleagues who wanted to go back to their motherland. 6 months down the road, they're back here again.

Reason - they can't take the stress of their jobs back home. Here if they're in the right gang, how shitty they are, also considered "talents". Back home, these "talents" mean nothing. And they're so used to the type of cushon job here, it won't be easy for them to survive in a sweatshop back home.

 

 

Edited August 13, 2011 by Bystander50

[Bystander50]

Her President's Scholarship will be terminated when she reached 21 year old and if she did not give up her china citizenship.

 

How old is she now?

If say when she reach 21, she's 2-3 years into her 5 year programme and she doesn't want to give up her citizenship, not a bad deal, she has covered 40-60% of the course fees under SG taxpayers' money. She just need to cough out the balance on her own which is a great deal. What can the gov do to her if she choose not to come back here? Shame her in the papers for all they want, no one will remember her face after a few years.

 

for such cases, why didn't the government think of holding her parent's property as co-lateral. If she breaks the bond, the property will be seized, irregardless of what the value is.