My experience working in civil service...

[1fast1]

Recently, during a radio show, they interviewed the founder of Plan B who was a former CEO of a MNC. I thought I heard him said, the government should not brings in top civil servants from the uniform group but to have people from the real corporate world with real exposures and experiences. He gave this piece of suggestion to a minister that smile with no reply.

 

The morale of the story, as long as this group of people are in power controlling, you need a 'coup' to change this mindset.

They bring in top uniformed people into top civilian posts precisely to avoid thoughts of a coup. Hard to bite a hand that feeds you so, so much. Edited March 5, 2017 by Turboflat4

[Victor68]

When you from a group to bully others till they are all gone, you next got to fight internally once the external enemies are all gone. Simply because the original formation does not have substance to bring you to the next level. I am citing general office politics not referring to any particular agencies or ministry. hehe

[Jamesc]

FEBRUARY 6, 2017

 

INTERVIEWS

 

Former EDB Chairman Philip Yeo’s latest biography sheds light on leadership pitfalls

 

“Neither Civil Nor Servant” is a no-holds- barred biography on his contributions to Singapore’s economic growth post-independence.

 

ANNE LOH

 

Former EDB chairman Philip Yeo played a pivotal role in Singapore’s development from Third World to First through his work in the military, economic and biomedical fields.

 

 

 

Who are the eunuchs in the Singapore context?

 

We call them “staffers”. I advise CEOs and top civil servants to go into the field, visit the companies and spend time with the workers. But many still prefer to hold meetings and presentations. They create another layer and it is a layer filled with staff ers. Soon, the leader will be infected with eunuch disease.

 

What is eunuch disease?

 

 

 

Its true paper is not important.

 

Skills, knowledge, ability, experience

 

are all also not important.

 

The only thing that is important is the

 

ability to lift 2 round objects. The higher

 

you lift the more successful you will be.

 

Hard truth. 

 

 

 

Ok I call them ball carriers and Philip Yeo call them eunuchs. 

 

I guess that make sense.

 

When you have yours chopped off

 

every man will want to get his hands

 

on another pair.  

 

 

 

Edited March 5, 2017 by Jamesc

[Angcheek]

Thanks for the good read. Sounds like the current lot is leading us into a bleak future. So there must be a bunch of these in the parliament right now?

 

 

lets not forget they played a key roll in bringing down the entire MING .....   

[A_korusawa]

Thanks for the good read. Sounds like the current lot is leading us into a bleak future. So there must be a bunch of these in the parliament right now?

 

its very obvious yeo is referring to pink & all his 九千岁s

e.g. 2 minsters per job..... finance, education, trade, even sports & arts etc.

agency are run with directors, assoc directors, snr directors & many more directors than any roles . . .

and each unit are flooded with dept heads, snr heads etc....... e.g. there are even easily >2vp besides p in any schools these days

 

with all these superscales heavy weights eunuchs calling shots these days, its definitely a very pink future

[Jamesc]

FEBRUARY 6, 2017

 

INTERVIEWS

 

Former EDB Chairman Philip Yeo’s latest biography sheds light on leadership pitfalls

 

 

 

What is eunuch disease?

 

It is when a leader surrounds himself with staffers and he becomes increasingly isolated. It is a common cancer in pyramidal organisations. The best organisation structure is flat. If I’m the emperor, I would want to see the generals myself. Increasingly, the emperors in Singapore do not see their generals because there are so many layers.

 

 

 

[Playtime]

They bring in top uniformed people into top civilian posts precisely to avoid thoughts of a coup. Hard to bite a hand that feeds you so, so much.

Perhaps also to tacitly encourage a coup if they ever get kicked out.

[Sosaria]

its very obvious yeo is referring to pink & all his ä¹åå²s

e.g. 2 minsters per job..... finance, education, trade, even sports & arts etc.

agency are run with directors, assoc directors, snr directors & many more directors than any roles . . .

and each unit are flooded with dept heads, snr heads etc....... e.g. there are even easily >2vp besides p in any schools these days

 

with all these superscales heavy weights eunuchs calling shots these days, its definitely a very pink future

This is true. Not just the multiple director, senior this and that ... also not forgetting the various admin depts that basically add no value to the organisation's main mission. Sometimes they create obstacles in the process of justifying their existence.

[Ingenius]

I read many criticism of our civil service, but when I talk to foreigners, their always say that their government is so much worse than ours.  But when I told them that Singaporeans complain, they say it's because these people never go out and see their government.  They have to pay the whole chain of staff to get anything done.

[Playtime]

I read many criticism of our civil service, but when I talk to foreigners, their always say that their government is so much worse than ours. But when I told them that Singaporeans complain, they say it's because these people never go out and see their government. They have to pay the whole chain of staff to get anything done.

That depends on who you benchmark against.

America or Angola?

Britain or Bangladesh?

Canada or Cameroon?

Denmark or Democratic Republic of Congo?

 

When it comes to politicians.

We cannot benchmark pay to the skies but standards to the sewers.

[longanwolverine]

Philip Yeo is old school style who gets the job done, respect to him.

 

Now all are jiak liao bee.

[Neost]

Philip Yeo is old school style who gets the job done, respect to him.

 

Now all are jiak liao bee.

 

Philip Yeo got godfather covering his backside.

[Playtime]

Philip Yeo is old school style who gets the job done, respect to him.

 

Now all are jiak liao bee.

 

the old school civil servant heads (ngiam is another one) seems to have a barely concealed contempt of the current generation of "leaders".. and who can blame them. when someone like CCS is paraded as some kind of future PM saviour... its really scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

[A_korusawa]

Philip Yeo got godfather covering his backside.

 

Anyway, this Yeo's no better than Ho (GIC)!  He splurged the company’s surplus cash to acquire Delifrance from its French owner for over $400m when he was the chairman of Sembawang Corp.  It turned out a disaster and later sold to PAMA for only $70m, a loss of over $300m. Sembcorp also almost went bust and had to be merged into the ST Group. Yeo was also Chairman of some companies in  ST when he continued in making other huge losses. After Ho, he must be the 2nd biggest who squandered out taxpayers'$ in sillypore

天下乌鸦 . . . . . 黑, sigh

[Little_prince]

would any here take a pay cut to join the civil service?

[Jman888]

would any here take a pay cut to join the civil service?

 

 

if pay cut a bit but guarantee:

 

- 3 months bonus every year.

- knock off at 5pm sharp.

- no retrenchment.

- more baby benefits (cash or leave). 

- still have minimum increment.

- more important is no blame culture    

[Little_prince]

if pay cut a bit but guarantee:

 

- 3 months bonus every year.

- knock off at 5pm sharp.

- no retrenchment.

- more baby benefits (cash or leave). 

- still have minimum increment.

- more important is no blame culture    

 

 

3 mth bonus i agree.

 

knock off at 5pm sharp depends on boss/ministry/job role.

 

you sure about no blame culture? lol. i heard quite political, everyone will point finger if got cock up.

[Adrianli]

would any here take a pay cut to join the civil service?

 

Depends of the amt of pay cut and the benefits.

 

 

Civil service also must "volunteer" with election.  No OT pay but got off day.