Wikileaks: US Drone shooting civillians

[Tigershark1976]

so by your point of view, a soldier MUST first confirm that the person is a terrorist before shooting right?

how do you confirm that the person is a terrorist? walk up to him and ask him?

or would you rather wait for that person to pull out a gun and hope that you react faster than he does?

 

unless you can give me a solution to this problem, i think it is acceptable for a soldier to shoot first and ask questions later

 

 

solution?? very simple, stop acting like a big bully! Why do you think people tie bombs on their body in terms to blow up another person?? do you know the courage needed to do such thing??

 

You have watched too much Americans movies. There is a cause for everything and Americans is not as holy as what you think!

[Fcw75]

This bugger has obviously been brainwashed by all those hollywood crap.

 

Go and serve the army la boy! Doesn't even know Apache is a helicopter...KNN!

 

Ask the US to solve their own problem in their own fricking country first.

[Fcw75]

i'm on the standpoint that the US must remain in iraq and afganistan until there is peace and stability within the region

if possible i'd they enter libya and suria as well

 

if they pulled out now, more than ever before terrorism will become widespread

them remaining in such countries and suppressing any terrorist activities even if it generates more enemies, is the better of the 2 evils

 

terrorism can be beaten and violence is not the way but such is the case where things are going to have to get worst before they can get any better

until the threat of terrorism is suppressed, i am all for whatever it takes to achieve peace, even if it means a few civilians will lose their lives

 

Where the hell is SURIA?? Go and watch your Suria Channel lah dey!

 

Don't try to be a hero anymore here la. You are making a fool of yourself. Just exit quietly.

Edited July 24, 2011 by Fcw75

[1fast1]

since you are so knowledgeable, perhaps you might want to educate me on why you think US acts on self interest in every mission they partake in?

 

namely you can start with the movie blackhawk down and the problems in solmalia because i don't see what they can get from such a country, then you can tell me what they will get from afganistan and how will they benefit from providing millions of aid to countries such as parkistan

 

Look, your ignorance is just too much for me to attempt to redress in its entirety (it would be a Sisyphean task). But just addressing two points:

 

Pakistan - If you can't see how the US is serving its self interest by making Pakistan a nominal ally, then you must truly be blind. Pakistan is strategically located, right next to ME hotspots. Excellent staging ground for an attack on America's (and Israel's) historical enemies. They can also use it to project force against China, should the need arise. When the Cold War was going strong and the USSR was still around, there was another reason. India had allied itself with the USSR, so America had to ally itself with Pakistan to balance things out in the region.

 

If you go by empty American rhetoric on their supposed democratic ideals, you'd never have guessed they'd be supporting a regime like that of the Pakistani military leader Pervez (I call him "Pervert") Musharraf. That bastard came to power with a coup d'etat. Yet, America supports him because he supports their "War on Terror". They even overlook the fact that many in the Pakistani regime are suspected of succouring terrorists, and that Pakistan is used as a staging ground for terror attacks against India - like the hotel shootings that claimed (among others) the life of a Singaporean girl (who was married to the brother of a friend of mine).

 

Somalia - more difficult. Began with Bush's support for interventionism, which many believe was due to his belief that there were vast oil stores in Northern Somalia (the imbecile from Texas always has visions of oilfields dancing before his eyes). The Clinton administration made the push to justify their own vision of foreign policy. Maybe this will enlighten you: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_the_Unit...s_enter_Somalia

 

The US has consistently proven itself to be one of the (if not *the*) most perversely hypocritical regime on the planet. They keep singing the canard about preserving democracy - yet, they've used their intelligence assets to help topple a democratic regime in favour of a tyrannical military regime because the latter favoured American interests more (Chilean coup 1973, read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_...'%C3%A9tat). They keep haranguing others about free speech, yet they spatially curtail the freedom of speech of their own citizenry ("Free-speech zones", read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone).

 

While I am generally loath to place much credence in Conspiracy Theories, the US's atrocious record in the past has even led me to believe there's more to 9/11 than meets the eye.

 

Bottom-line: I don't trust the US, and neither should you.

Edited July 24, 2011 by Turboflat4

[Sabian]

The US of A would even screw their own citizens in the arse if the situation calls for it, like now.

 

What more others?

[Gaukeechee]

this is what happens when you selectively take portions of a video and piece them together taking everything out of context

 

obviously the video wasn't clear and the camera looked like a gun from afar; the whole area was probably considered hostile and still hot during that time

i believe the us military did nothing wrong in trying to play it as safe as possible

 

as a journalist one should know the risks involved, the same goes for the soldiers and there is nothing wrong in shooting first to save oneself

Those terrorists ought to be shot. USA DID THE BEST FOR THE WORLD

[Gaukeechee]

This bugger has obviously been brainwashed by all those hollywood crap.

 

Go and serve the army la boy! Doesn't even know Apache is a helicopter...KNN!

 

Ask the US to solve their own problem in their own fricking country first.

 

I think we all should pause this thread for 3 mins to remember the US NAVY SEALS who perished under the terror and salute USA for getting rid of the terror. SA.. LUT!

[Moredhel]

Republicans, Democrats, Men-in-white, Qin Shi Wang, Bonaparte, Alexander, Mussolini,

 

you think all these powerful people got to where they are(or were) by being totally clean?

 

Think about the bloodshed and utter misery caused by influential people in power throughout the centuries at one point of time or another. All of them have the same modus operandi. Bloodshed at first to establish terror and reputation for ruthlessness, develop processes for people control, veneer of 'laws' and 'equality' after.

 

History is written by the victors and that's all that matters.

 

If Germany, Japan and Italy won WW2, we would all be brought up praising Hitler as the man with the vision and the hard truths and we would still be serfs.

[Expertz]

Those terrorists ought to be shot. USA DID THE BEST FOR THE WORLD

 

my point exactly!

whats this 1 or 2 ppl dying as compared to the millions who would die if terror were allowed to grow or the thousands of soldiers who have already lost their lives trying to provide a better future for you and me

the number of lives lost is minuscule if you compare to the potential number of lives that will be lost if US did not intervene

[Expertz]

Look, your ignorance is just too much for me to attempt to redress in its entirety (it would be a Sisyphean task). But just addressing two points:

 

Pakistan - If you can't see how the US is serving its self interest by making Pakistan a nominal ally, then you must truly be blind. Pakistan is strategically located, right next to ME hotspots. Excellent staging ground for an attack on America's (and Israel's) historical enemies. They can also use it to project force against China, should the need arise. When the Cold War was going strong and the USSR was still around, there was another reason. India had allied itself with the USSR, so America had to ally itself with Pakistan to balance things out in the region.

 

If you go by empty American rhetoric on their supposed democratic ideals, you'd never have guessed they'd be supporting a regime like that of the Pakistani military leader Pervez (I call him "Pervert") Musharraf. That bastard came to power with a coup d'etat. Yet, America supports him because he supports their "War on Terror". They even overlook the fact that many in the Pakistani regime are suspected of succouring terrorists, and that Pakistan is used as a staging ground for terror attacks against India - like the hotel shootings that claimed (among others) the life of a Singaporean girl (who was married to the brother of a friend of mine).

 

Somalia - more difficult. Began with Bush's support for interventionism, which many believe was due to his belief that there were vast oil stores in Northern Somalia (the imbecile from Texas always has visions of oilfields dancing before his eyes). The Clinton administration made the push to justify their own vision of foreign policy. Maybe this will enlighten you: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_the_Unit...s_enter_Somalia

 

The US has consistently proven itself to be one of the (if not *the*) most perversely hypocritical regime on the planet. They keep singing the canard about preserving democracy - yet, they've used their intelligence assets to help topple a democratic regime in favour of a tyrannical military regime because the latter favoured American interests more (Chilean coup 1973, read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_...'%C3%A9tat). They keep haranguing others about free speech, yet they spatially curtail the freedom of speech of their own citizenry ("Free-speech zones", read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone).

 

While I am generally loath to place much credence in Conspiracy Theories, the US's atrocious record in the past has even led me to believe there's more to 9/11 than meets the eye.

 

Bottom-line: I don't trust the US, and neither should you.

 

you see the similarity between somalia, iraq, afganistan and etc etc?

they were started by the republicans who will come in and continue to fug up the US economy until it breaks

then the US citizens will have no choice but to vote in a democrat for long enough to fix up the economy

 

you can explain that the 2 bush presidents are similar because they are father and son, however that won't explain why clinton and obama are similiar too

if you looked back into history you'll find that its all along been like this

 

i think its unfair to judge the americans the way you do, i believe in obama's administration and i believe obama will make the world a better place for all

[Mlimhs]

Go watch this documentary : The War You Don't See.

Might give you a different view.

[Babyckh]

Let him be. He is a U ASS worshipper.

 

 

[Expertz]

Go watch this documentary : The War You Don't See.

Might give you a different view.

 

there will always be different point of views, what is most important is which view is for the greater good

 

btw, just heard on radio that a BBC journalist was killed by a gang of suicide bombers; funny how its OK for suicide bombers to kill journalists but once US military accidentally kills one, its all hell breaks lose

[Expertz]

Let him be. He is a U ASS worshipper.

 

who else should i worship? china? india? russia? or north korea?