Remixes Clutched July 18, 2011 Share July 18, 2011 Hi Anyone from the Manufacturing or Precision Engineering Industry?? How do u think of the current market now??Can share ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic July 18, 2011 Share July 18, 2011 not from this line but always thot that it's a sunset industry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic July 18, 2011 Share July 18, 2011 What do I think? It has been on the decline for quite some time. With the recent labour crunch it's making things even worse. What exactly are you looking at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic July 18, 2011 Share July 18, 2011 not from this line but always thot that it's a sunset industry. When it comes to these two industry, the range is very wide. Other dan the regular mechanical & electrical/electronic fields manufacturing also covers industry like F&B, packaging, marine, oil & gas etc etc. Anything that involves in mass production. These industry are cost sensitive which saw many companies looking to neighbouring SE Asia and China for cheaper labour costs, except for sgp. It's not a sunset industry. As long as there are products which requires mass production the demand is always there. It's just that the rising cost in sgp is drving buinesses to look for alternatives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic July 18, 2011 Share July 18, 2011 what i meant was why would companies set up factories in sgp to do manufacturing when they can easily gain access to cheaper land & labour in m'sia, thailand, indo, viet or prc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangadrool Supersonic July 18, 2011 Share July 18, 2011 (edited) what i meant was why would companies set up factories in sgp to do manufacturing when they can easily gain access to cheaper land & labour in m'sia, thailand, indo, viet or prc? It's the ease of doing business - setting up, importing and exporting. In no other countries, you can easily import and export non-controlled items with relative ease. Edited July 18, 2011 by Kangadrool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic July 18, 2011 Share July 18, 2011 (edited) what i meant was why would companies set up factories in sgp to do manufacturing when they can easily gain access to cheaper land & labour in m'sia, thailand, indo, viet or prc? For big companies, yes they do that. But in sgp most of them are SMEs and in all types of industry combined SMEs make up more dan 90% in sgp industry. SMEs are more manageable and flexible in terms of costs. Edited July 18, 2011 by Watwheels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratovarius Turbocharged July 18, 2011 Share July 18, 2011 Hi Anyone from the Manufacturing or Precision Engineering Industry?? How do u think of the current market now??Can share Are you refering to machining house or those semi con machines when refering to precision engineering? Anyway, for both, the market is very competitive since the big players are shifting their manufacturing plants to China and other parts of SEA, so any company that supports these big players are affected. Thus companies in SGP are always looking at cost cutting (yes, that includes your pay too). The only selling point of SG products are quality, technology and talents over here. I forsee that SGP will become more of a technology/R&D hub in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remixes Clutched July 18, 2011 Author Share July 18, 2011 i agree its a sunset industry...but dunno how long. R&D will always be the forefront.Due to the cost thats why it is diffcult to survive. I have been in this long about 8years but seen many high and low..customers always the few .Moreover even one hightech company in senoko also cannot survive due to leak of talent.all the old bird either have retired,have gone to another line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remixes Clutched July 18, 2011 Author Share July 18, 2011 acutally want to see how many mcf in precision engineering ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babyckh 5th Gear July 18, 2011 Share July 18, 2011 I'm from the PE trade. things are getting from back to worse nowadays. customers keeping asking for cost down most of the time, prices of expendable items keep increasing. not easy to get skill craftsmen in this trade also, foreign worker quota now stands at 4 local : 1 FW. situation quite challenging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remixes Clutched July 20, 2011 Author Share July 20, 2011 oh haha peharps u are also from one of my client because this industry more or less i know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged July 21, 2011 Share July 21, 2011 Precision engineering and machining are very good skills that are unfortunately dying out here. There are not many good machinists around. Lack of DIY enthusiasts also. Fewer local polys offer courses in these areas. I think many parents don't like the idea of their kids working with their hands on CNC machines (even though some of these can be pretty high-tech)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic July 21, 2011 Share July 21, 2011 Precision engineering and machining are very good skills that are unfortunately dying out here. There are not many good machinists around. Lack of DIY enthusiasts also. Fewer local polys offer courses in these areas. I think many parents don't like the idea of their kids working with their hands on CNC machines (even though some of these can be pretty high-tech)... It's not that there aren't many good machinist. Not many good machinists can also read iso drawings. For draftsman they know how to read and do drawings but dunno how to do machining. Haha.... For such engineering you have to be an all-rounder to be good. The poly/ite program is good cos students get to do hands on from drawing, computer aided drawing, conventional machining to CNC machining. Practical stuff when you go out to work, just need to get experience. Uni focus too much on theory and calculations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged July 21, 2011 Share July 21, 2011 It's not that there aren't many good machinist. Not many good machinists can also read iso drawings. For draftsman they know how to read and do drawings but dunno how to do machining. Haha.... For such engineering you have to be an all-rounder to be good. The poly/ite program is good cos students get to do hands on from drawing, computer aided drawing, conventional machining to CNC machining. Practical stuff when you go out to work, just need to get experience. Uni focus too much on theory and calculations. I remember uni machining subject and research focus on how much MATERIAL REMOVED and how to optimise/maximize and control this process to get the best balance between speed and quality/surface finish... Very, very fine details and not much practical aspect of how to operate the machines. It's more useful for people who are actually building or manufacturing these machines, rather than machining itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apong1471 Neutral Newbie July 21, 2011 Share July 21, 2011 This trade is sunset & gone case. I remember them quoting "working in precision engineering is wrost than being a Chicken!" With tight schedule (if there's an order), smell of those coolant & oil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si4dr 6th Gear July 21, 2011 Share July 21, 2011 Just saw this thread, I am in this line abt 20yrs liao . If u still young, dun come in......I'm too old to change line Wont die YET but hard to earn/expand in SG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo 1st Gear July 21, 2011 Share July 21, 2011 It's not that there aren't many good machinist. Not many good machinists can also read iso drawings. For draftsman they know how to read and do drawings but dunno how to do machining. Haha.... For such engineering you have to be an all-rounder to be good. The poly/ite program is good cos students get to do hands on from drawing, computer aided drawing, conventional machining to CNC machining. Practical stuff when you go out to work, just need to get experience. Uni focus too much on theory and calculations. I have the opportunity to draw and operate the m/c when i was in ITE. I remember i didn't drew well but fair slightly better on m/c operation. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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