MC? Wait, You Got Go Govt or Company Doc Not!??

[Jman888]

Never knew there is such a stipulation.

 

What has SMC got to say about this, that a MC issued by a GP may not be recognised?

 

 

However, in order to take sick leave with pay, the Employment Act states that an employee needs to obtain a medical certificate from a company or government doctor.

 

This is only a minimum requirement, and does not stop an employer from recognising a medical certificate from any doctor.

 

you do selective reading??

[Vulcann]

However, in order to take sick leave with pay, the Employment Act states that an employee needs to obtain a medical certificate from a company or government doctor.

 

This is only a minimum requirement, and does not stop an employer from recognising a medical certificate from any doctor.

 

you do selective reading??

 

No, so you think employers will all raise to the occasion and take particular note of this?

 

What if he or she stick to the minimum requirement?

[Jman888]

No, so you think employers will all raise to the occasion and take particular note of this?

 

What if he or she stick to the minimum requirement?

 

 

were they wrong to follow MOM guide line by sticking to the minimum? as long as the company is paying for the bill and insist the staff to go to company doctor (which can be raffles medical group, shenton medical group, etc), govt hospital or polyclinic (which is quite plenty over the island), isn't that good enough?

 

However, i do see small SME that strictly follow the guide line but majority are doing better than that. This is why it was referred as minimum!

[Mllcg]

companies scared u chaokeng with any other doctor ma. haiz

[Vulcann]

were they wrong to follow MOM guide line by sticking to the minimum? as long as the company is paying for the bill and insist the staff to go to company doctor (which can be raffles medical group, shenton medical group, etc), govt hospital or polyclinic (which is quite plenty over the island), isn't that good enough?

 

However, i do see small SME that strictly follow the guide line but majority are doing better than that. This is why it was referred as minimum!

 

All 3 companies I was with all practiced the "minimum" requirement with fervour , with company doctors whom one must go see them when sick. MCs from other GPs all are not recognised unfortunately.

 

Was having high fever and went to see our dear company doc from a well-known group and the joker prescribed some pills and certified me fit to go back work! Undetermined I went on to see my family physician and he was shocked that I was allowed to go back work as my temperature was over 40 degree celsius. He issued 1-day MC to me and barked out to me that if the company refused to accept it he would mount a complain to MOM on my behalf for ill-treatment.

 

Not wanting to risk my rice bowl I took leave for the day instead.

 

So I asked you in my case do you still think they are right to stick to the "minimum" requirement?

 

I know people abused the system by going to their fav docs to get their "dose" of MCs but since these physicians are licensed to carry out their business under the law we should give them the benefit of the doubt unless the authorities step in to regularise it.

 

The mass majority should not be put at a disadvantage just because of cost or a few black sheeps.

Edited July 13, 2011 by Vulcann

[Ben5266]

were they wrong to follow MOM guide line by sticking to the minimum? as long as the company is paying for the bill and insist the staff to go to company doctor (which can be raffles medical group, shenton medical group, etc), govt hospital or polyclinic (which is quite plenty over the island), isn't that good enough?

 

However, i do see small SME that strictly follow the guide line but majority are doing better than that. This is why it was referred as minimum!

Last time I work in Philip, die die must drag myself to TP Lorong 1 to see the resident doctor for MC.

1 hr go, 1 hr see dr, and 1 hr back. Reach home noon already. How to rest?

But can only blame those who spoil the market.

Are they still having the same policy?

[Jman888]

Last time I work in Philip, die die must drag myself to TP Lorong 1 to see the resident doctor for MC.

1 hr go, 1 hr see dr, and 1 hr back. Reach home noon already. How to rest?

But can only blame those who spoil the market.

Are they still having the same policy?

 

 

 

Many SME owner do not know much about HR and MOM guide line is a bible to follow, i experience one that in additional of seeing the company doctor, you must take the mc back to the supervisor and let them see if you are still fit to work (yah they can over rule the doctor's decision ) and let you stay in the office until end of the day, you can faint at your work station.

Edited July 13, 2011 by Jman888

[Fcw75]

Mine at Geylang. Fast, never more than an hour n best thing sure got XMM see cuz at Lor 18 lol

 

Lor 18?

 

Got go for annoymous testing bo?

[Adrianli]

My company not too bad, can see other GP but only can claim $25. They recognise all MC from GP but not from Sinseh. The clinic nearest my place is not under my company's panel of clinics but I still go to him whenever I have migraine cos he knows my medication. For other small illness, I go to company's panels of clinics.

 

My previous company, Keppel Shipyard, must see their resident doctor. Sick still must travel all the way to Tuas to see him. Work start at 7.25am but he always come at 9am. Must wait n wait for him to arrive. Lucky I white helmet, so always in front of the queue. The rest of the workers, got to wait long long. Somemore he very ngiao with MC. Then I see specialist, also must bring the mc to him to endorse b4 company recognise it. Dont like it at all.

[Vulcann]

Many SME owner do not know much about HR and MOM guide line is a bible to follow, i experience one that in additional of seeing the company doctor, you must take the mc back to the supervisor and let them see if you are still fit to work (yah they can over rule the doctor's decision ) and let you stay in the office until end of the day, you can faint at your work station.

 

Actually these SMCs know but because small set-up so everything also wana save, including workers' benefits.

 

Imagine you work for a boss who niao chi niao l*n, I am sure you and your fellow workers' morale will not be high & will always on the lookout to jump ship.

 

In your case rather extreme. If you or your colleagues got yourself hurt in the process of being watched for alleged malingering, I am sure your boss will have hard time explaining to the authorities.

[Vulcann]

My company not too bad, can see other GP but only can claim $25. They recognise all MC from GP but not from Sinseh. The clinic nearest my place is not under my company's panel of clinics but I still go to him whenever I have migraine cos he knows my medication. For other small illness, I go to company's panels of clinics.

 

My previous company, Keppel Shipyard, must see their resident doctor. Sick still must travel all the way to Tuas to see him. Work start at 7.25am but he always come at 9am. Must wait n wait for him to arrive. Lucky I white helmet, so always in front of the queue. The rest of the workers, got to wait long long. Somemore he very ngiao with MC. Then I see specialist, also must bring the mc to him to endorse b4 company recognise it. Dont like it at all.

 

My first company's medical welfare the "best": You had to travel all the way to the clinic near to the boss' house to see the company doctor when sick. Apparently the doctor was also his family doctor so the good doctor became the company doctor as well.

 

Unlike you I had to queue and wait for my turn together with the general public and general workers from my boss's various sites.

 

My co-workers had warned me when I first joined that only MCs from the company's doctor would be recognized, that his prescriptions were all cheap ones (& ineffective) & that he was very niao with MCs.

 

Naturally I left the place soon, though not because of cheap medicine or MC issues but the boss' indifference to staff benefits like pay/bonuses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kangadrool]

My company not too bad, can see other GP but only can claim $25. They recognise all MC from GP but not from Sinseh. The clinic nearest my place is not under my company's panel of clinics but I still go to him whenever I have migraine cos he knows my medication. For other small illness, I go to company's panels of clinics.

 

My previous company, Keppel Shipyard, must see their resident doctor. Sick still must travel all the way to Tuas to see him. Work start at 7.25am but he always come at 9am. Must wait n wait for him to arrive. Lucky I white helmet, so always in front of the queue. The rest of the workers, got to wait long long. Somemore he very ngiao with MC. Then I see specialist, also must bring the mc to him to endorse b4 company recognise it. Dont like it at all.

 

sounds like S A F leh.

[Vulcann]

A word from a good doctor.

 

From ST Forum:

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/Story/...ory_691150.html

 

Professional code

 

'MCs are issued based on whether the patient's condition warrants a day of rest.'

 

DR DAVID TAN HSIEN YUNG: 'As a medical doctor who has worked in both polyclinic and private clinic settings, I beg to differ with Mr Bernard Allen Utchenik ('MCs are...'; Wednesday). Doctors are bound by their professional code of ethics, and medical certificates (MCs) are issued based on whether the patient's condition warrants a day of rest. If an employer insists that the employee reports sick at a polyclinic, hoping that the long waiting time will discourage 'non-caring workers' from doing so, he is grossly mistaken. This lack of trust on the employer's part will instead erode the relationship that workers have with their employers, and surely cannot be good for the working environment. Therefore, I echo the call for companies to recognise MCs issued by all doctors, and hope the Manpower Ministry can make it mandatory for firms to do so.'