Jman888 Moderator July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 Ironical situation, let the Indonesian kill them in a inhumane way or killed by the crazy farmer Mental health fears mount over Australia cattle ban Posted: 05 July 2011 1541 hrs SYDNEY: Fears mounted Tuesday over the mental health of farmers hit hard by Australia's ban on live cattle exports to Indonesia as one stockman prepared to shoot 3,000 cows he cannot afford to keep. Nico Botha, of Moola Bulla station in Western Australia, told state broadcaster ABC that he would begin killing the animals as soon as Wednesday. "We'd rather shoot them now than go through overgrazing, dying in the paddocks, struggling to get the paddocks better again," he said. "That's going to take us another three years, so (we'd) rather do our decision now than go through all the other drama." Botha said he knew of other cattle farmers who would also have to cull following the government's decision to halt exports a month ago, after a public outcry about shocking images of mistreatment in Indonesian slaughterhouses. Indonesia and Australia are yet to agree on mutual slaughter standards which must be in place before cattle can be shipped north again. Agriculture Minister Joe Ludwig has said he could not predict when live exports to Indonesia would resume, with the suspension set to last anywhere up to November. Northern Territory Cattlemen's Association executive director Luke Bowen said the longer the ban was in place the harder it would become for farmers to survive, with mental illness now a major concern. "Every producer is facing problems in terms of feed supply and their financial position and the longer the situation is allowed to fester, the worse it will get," he told AFP. "We are talking with a number of producers who are in danger of going out of business because of this man-made disaster. "The psychological impact is enormous. People have invested their whole lives in this and to see it going down the gurgler (drain), and the government's lame attempts at compensation, is hard to take." The National Farmers Federation voiced similar concerns. "Moola Bulla station is the first report we've heard where a farmer feels he has to kill his cattle and it is not something we can condone, but we sympathise," spokeswoman Ruth Redfern said. "The mental impact of this ban is of real concern. Farmers are already recognised as among the worst group of suicide threats. They had already done it tough with drought even before this latest crisis." Nigel Scullion, deputy leader of the Nationals party, forecast the government would be spending much more on mental health assistance for farmers before the issue was resolved. "(It's) Aus$120,000 ($128,000) a day worth of cattle he'll be shooting," he said of Botha. "This particular crisis is going to be a crisis in human terms. "I don't know how (farmers) are going to recover from it now, let alone how they're going to recover as the weeks roll out." - AFP/cc ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dec_allion Clutched July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 (edited) so much about animals rights in the end the cows still get kill for nothing or rather more in inhuman way than the indonesians. compare killing cows in cruel way but to eat them or kill them simply over-populations and too much over head. those aust politicians really ccb . in the end not only waste money but those poor cows are paying the mistake by their life. Edited July 5, 2011 by Dec_allion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator July 5, 2011 Author Share July 5, 2011 maybe singaporean get to eat cheaper steak soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 maybe singaporean get to eat cheaper steak soon ask MO buy a cow and every day eat rendang Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingenius Turbocharged July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 this is nothing la. from what i know, for one particular religion, they offer cattles as offerings and they use a knife to slit the throat of the cattle alive. also, i read that another religion will just pull the eyes out of the goat alive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dec_allion Clutched July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 hope we does but doubt will be any cheaper when profit percentage will be mark up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator July 5, 2011 Author Share July 5, 2011 ask MO buy a cow and every day eat rendang you mean only boil the part that he wants to eat? that is even more cruel and inhumane :angry: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csnewbie 1st Gear July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 why cant they just deep-frozen slaughtered cows which can last 2-3 yrs..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTan 2nd Gear July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 Knn....this is globalization? Where is the fame...The world is your market? No wonder there is food shortages.....unbalanced sales and demand! Surely some china firm can take all cows and make beef randang right? Surely some countries would be happy to buy the cow for it's meat. To he'll with the food shortage scare!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csnewbie 1st Gear July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 you mean only boil the part that he wants to eat? that is even more cruel and inhumane :angry: no la....rendang requires milk.....cow milk only. -_- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csnewbie 1st Gear July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 maybe singaporean get to eat cheaper steak soon and puke beef... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 I watched a little of the video clip of how the Indonesians slaughter the cow. I guess it will make the beef non-Halal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 no la....rendang requires milk.....cow milk only. eh u learn from where...i know need coconut milk dah dey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator July 5, 2011 Author Share July 5, 2011 eh u learn from where...i know need coconut milk dah dey for health conscious people who replace coconut milk with fresh milk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 for health conscious people who replace coconut milk with fresh milk brest milk brester....er better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csnewbie 1st Gear July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 eh u learn from where...i know need coconut milk dah dey coconut milk eat too much...got to spend $8 just like KBW. [:p] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged July 5, 2011 Share July 5, 2011 ....for one particular religion, they offer cattles as offerings and they use a knife to slit the throat of the cattle alive. Not sure if you are referring to the one I am thinking of. I used to go and watch the slaughtering and went away thinking it was cruel. But after I started reading about how it is done, I find it to be a rather humane way of killing lamb. The knife has to be very sharp and it has to kill it swiftly and kill it the 1st time. Pretty much like how chicken sellers kill chicken in the wet market in the pre mid-80's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator July 5, 2011 Author Share July 5, 2011 so what will be the most humane way to kill a cow, drug them? heard that animal release toxic chemical when they were in fear before dead, and will cause cancer if human consume too much of them. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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