Old WW2 Relic disposals

[Elfenstar]

All WWII munitions are to be disposed of by the military EOD. This is just bullish.t at it's best. A reply should follow soon in the papers.

 

That's the SOP? I never knew what it was.

[1fast1]

I was saying your analogy is wrong, not that they shouldnt do it.

 

I think the best way would be to do it then charge.

 

Why not? Requiem's analogy is spot on (in fact I was thinking the same thing before I saw his post).

 

By extension, can I keep a gun in my house since it's private property?

 

Can I run a gambling den out of my house since it's private property?

 

Can I build a thermonuclear/biological/chemical WMD within the confines of my house, since it's private property?

 

There is no end to the absurd possibilities that the acceptance of the police's farcical rationale can lead to.

 

And even taking the police's assertion at face value, can they assure that the blast radius from detonation of the device wouldn't encroach into public land and harm anything (person or property) situated therein? Or would they still be sitting back, shrugging their shoulders and asking the unfortunates harmed in such an explosion to sue those in the "private property" for negligently setting off the device?

 

Aren't the police supposed to be, I don't know, responsible for safeguarding lives and property? I'm sure I've read something like that somewhere.

Edited June 21, 2011 by Turboflat4

[GoodCar]

I beg to differ. AA rounds would be fitted with proximity fuzes, PD(point det) or timer.mostly timer, pre determined time/height, it will explode. No one in the know, would carry such rounds, as you never know when it will re-activate. And definitely not for any sum, not even $500 dollars.

 

This one you also google.....???

Edited June 21, 2011 by GoodCar

[Bystander50]

So, if anyone can just drop by and ask for bomb removal service, can one just buy a bomb as well?... very weird indeed ... now I worry if next time a lion happen to stop by my garden, I have to pay someone to Catch it...

 

You can look for a hunter to help you shoot the lion.

But if the lion is an escapee from our zoo, then most likely after shooting, they'll send you a bill demanding compensation.

 

 

[Scion]

more clarification here....

but somehow i'm not very convinced...

 

 

Old bomb finally taken off-site

SAF experts step in after landlord could not get private contractor

By Kimberly Spykerman

 

A 160KG bomb found outside a furniture warehouse in Sungei Kadut has finally been removed, 24 hours after its discovery sparked a scramble to find a private bomb disposal company.

 

Bomb experts from the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) took away the war relic yesterday.

 

But before they turned up at the site, Mr Raymond Yap, assistant manager of LHT Holdings, which owns the warehouse, was so frantic that he called the office of Deputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean, who is also Home Affairs Minister, saying he was at his wits' end.

 

Mr Yap, 64, had had no luck with the two private bomb disposal companies recommended by police officers on Monday.

 

The SAF's Chemical Biological Radiological and Explosives Defence Group (CBRE) arrived at around 1pm.

 

In a statement last night, the police gave the assurance that public safety had not been compromised.

 

It said that when officers arrived, they set up a safety cordon around the site.

 

In line with 'prevailing response protocols', the police then alerted CBRE. It 'conveyed information including visuals of the relic in question to the CBRE which assessed that the object could be safely disposed of by licensed specialist contractors'.

 

A police spokesman said: 'The CBRE advised that as the relic was found on private property, the landlord should engage the services of such specialist contractors to do so. Police accordingly conveyed this to the landlord.

 

'However, when the landlord encountered some difficulties procuring the services of designated licensed specialist contractors to remove the relic, police informed CBRE and a CBRE team was sent to the scene and removed the relic safely.'

 

About 40 workers evacuated from the warehouse stood outside the gates and watched anxiously as the men from the unit, decked in dark green coveralls, examined the bomb.

 

Three hours later, they emerged from the site with the bomb in the back of a covered vehicle that had a sign hanging off the back that read 'Caution: Unexploded Bomb'.

 

Malaysian worker Wong Chee Keong said in Mandarin: 'I feel a lot safer now. I was very worried that it would explode.'

 

Mr Yap added: 'I'm relieved that everything has been solved. At least there's been a thorough study of the situation, and everyone's safety has been taken care of.'

 

Only a few hours earlier, he had been worried after being unable to find anyone to help dispose of the 60cm-long relic.

 

Workers using an excavator had dug it up on Sunday from a corner of the site, where a furniture recycling plant is being built, and left it in a pile of soil.

 

It was only on Monday that they realised it was an old bomb, after trying to sell it to the scrap metal yard next door.

 

The yard's owner, Mr Ong Kim Hock, 54, recognised it as a possible bomb due to its bronze tip and bullet shape. He then had the workers put it back where they had found it, and called the police.

 

Mr Yap said on Monday that the police had informed him that they would not be able to help get rid of the war relic since it was found on private property.

 

He told them the land was leased from statutory board JTC Corporation, and therefore was not private property. The police then provided him with the contact numbers of two private bomb disposal companies.

 

Mr Yap paid more than $600 for two officers from security management firm Certis Cisco to stand watch over the war relic that night.

 

He said he called DPM Teo's office, telling the staff member he was put through to that it was a 'very urgent' matter and that he needed help.

 

Shortly after, he said, he received a call from the SAF's bomb disposal unit. It is understood that the bomb will be detonated today.

 

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same style as army days?

need to escalate before things start to move? heh heh [sly]

[Mazdaowner]

Seems like not many people know there is one company called Explomo who deals with this

 

http://www.explomo.com.sg/

 

Now then you come in. You helping them advertise ah?

All mentioned in the thread so many times over.

 

BTW, last week, Along Beach Road (fishing tackle side) one shop

had our brand watches on sale at 40% off. Was walking by, took a look,

picked up 2. Casio was dirt as well.

[Mazdaowner]

Why not? Requiem's analogy is spot on (in fact I was thinking the same thing before I saw his post).

 

By extension, can I keep a gun in my house since it's private property?

 

Can I run a gambling den out of my house since it's private property?

 

Can I build a thermonuclear/biological/chemical WMD within the confines of my house, since it's private property?

 

There is no end to the absurd possibilities that the acceptance of the police's farcical rationale can lead to.

 

And even taking the police's assertion at face value, can they assure that the blast radius from detonation of the device wouldn't encroach into public land and harm anything (person or property) situated therein? Or would they still be sitting back, shrugging their shoulders and asking the unfortunates harmed in such an explosion to sue those in the "private property" for negligently setting off the device?

 

Aren't the police supposed to be, I don't know, responsible for safeguarding lives and property? I'm sure I've read something like that somewhere.

 

Just for everyone's info, nothing in SG is for no FEE. Rescue choppers (You know from where!) if you need to have a rescue chopper fly out to sea to rescue the ship's crew, it's 10k alright.

[Mazdaowner]

This one you also google.....???

 

Google is a good friend.

[Soya]

i thought it has to be defused by the specialized bomb team of the police?

regardless of public or private places?

 

 

Precisely. Does that mean that as long as it's pte property, police dun hv to do anything?? So if a robbery or murder takes place in a pte property, they can say not their biz and it's ur own problem??

 

This incident realli erodes public confidence of the "protectors" and reflects how the std of public services has realli gone down the drain.

[Mazdaowner]

same style as army days?

need to escalate before things start to move? heh heh [sly]

 

Everything now taiji, not me not him, not anyone. Last time, once found, EOD will be there

on the spot, now it seems, have to open table and discuss quotation first? really WTF and CMI.

[RadX]

Precisely. Does that mean that as long as it's pte property, police dun hv to do anything?? So if a robbery or murder takes place in a pte property, they can say not their biz and it's ur own problem??

 

This incident realli erodes public confidence of the "protectors" and reflects how the std of public services has realli gone down the drain.

 

I concur...this really drives the SPF to a new low.....in fact under water al.....

I can imagine terrorists now appriaching the banglas and telling them

'dey thambi, u got see metal metal big big, call me k? I gib u $5000' :angry: :angry: :angry:

[Mazdaowner]

Precisely. Does that mean that as long as it's pte property, police dun hv to do anything?? So if a robbery or murder takes place in a pte property, they can say not their biz and it's ur own problem??

 

This incident realli erodes public confidence of the "protectors" and reflects how the std of public services has realli gone down the drain.

 

I never had any confidence after one such "attack" in geylang, and the victim was told he had to engage a lawyer on his own

to seek redress from his attackers.

[Mockngbrd]

Well since you haven't given any constructive comments, and you're not from the police to know what they do not or do, how are you in a position to judge/criticise them?

Y not? I not politician means I cannot criticize them? I not movie maker means I cannot criticize movies? I not chef means I cannot criticize restaurants? I'm not a cop, but I do know that cops shudnt be tai chiing such matters ard esp when it concerns an unexploded bomb just because it's on "pvt" property. Anyone with a sane mind and sound judgment wld feel the same. It just stinks.

[RadX]

I never had any confidence after one such "attack" in geylang, and the victim was told he had to engage a lawyer on his own

to seek redress from his attackers.

 

that's why, now my modus operandi....'whack first, tok later'...even die, then, i take over wot

[Mazdaowner]

I concur...this really drives the SPF to a new low.....in fact under water al.....

I can imagine terrorists now appriaching the banglas and telling them

'dey thambi, u got see metal metal big big, call me k? I gib u $5000' :angry: :angry: :angry:

 

Yes, I give you $5000, you put this in toilet at Julong is-land!

[RadX]

Y not? I not politician means I cannot criticize them? I not movie maker means I cannot criticize movies? I not chef means I cannot criticize restaurants? I'm not a cop, but I do know that cops shudnt be tai chiing such matters ard esp when it concerns an unexploded bomb just because it's on "pvt" property. Anyone with a sane mind and sound judgment wld feel the same. It just stinks.

 

think u stick to mei mei thread.....this too much for u

[Mazdaowner]

that's why, now my modus operandi....'whack first, tok later'...even die, then, i take over wot

 

Same here, by the time they come over, war ended.

[RadX]

Yes, I give you $5000, you put this in toilet at Julong is-land!

 

can...pls trf $$$ to my pakistani acct, no is

123z

thanks