Darryn Turbocharged June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 the one that says "don't get pushed" or the one that says "if you are going to get pushed, make sure you are fat enough not to be bumped off of the platform"? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 If SMRT pay the amount, this will open the floodgate for all the Suicider to jump into our track causing unnecessary delay. SMRT should just put up a big signboard in all their stations. We will not be responsible for any injuries/damage once you enter our premises. SMRT should not even give them a single cent! if its suicide, they deserve. if its a genuine accident like this WITH CCTV, i think SMRT has to cover some. why aren't the staff at the platform doing anything about the pushing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 If she was behind the yellow line, what safety rules was she ignoring? Pusher is liable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apvman 2nd Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 Again it will go back to the idea - Is it reasonably foreseeable for SMRT to predict that given the approach speed of the train, the stopping distance, the crowd on the platform and the ease with which someone can be knocked over that this accident would happen. I go back to what I said earlier about the car fault - the accident wasn't caused by the manufacturer, however they got into a lot of trouble becuase it was very predictable that given X number of cars solved, Y number would get into an accident with the correct set of circumstances to make this a problem. That will depends on the time of the occurance lah bro... If she is pushed esp when the mrt comes, do u think the train is able to stop without taking a hit at the girl? So must see the footage... like what I said, if she is suing the SMRT DUE TO GREEDs.... then she deserve to go home empty handed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babyt 4th Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 If she was behind the yellow line, what safety rules was she ignoring? if you are using the zebra crossing, u dont assume u r safe to walk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 if its suicide, they deserve. if its a genuine accident like this WITH CCTV, i think SMRT has to cover some. why aren't the staff at the platform doing anything about the pushing? too add on, IF the half screen doors were up, this would not have happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apvman 2nd Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 if its suicide, they deserve. if its a genuine accident like this WITH CCTV, i think SMRT has to cover some. why aren't the staff at the platform doing anything about the pushing? Another silly idea? U mean SMRT had to put someone there 365 days, 6am to 11.30pm to prevent PUSHING or similar things? HAHAHHA.....No wonder everyone in the world are laughing at us... hahaha.. We act like babies.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockaphonics 2nd Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 Again it will go back to the idea - Is it reasonably foreseeable for SMRT to predict that given the approach speed of the train, the stopping distance, the crowd on the platform and the ease with which someone can be knocked over that this accident would happen. I go back to what I said earlier about the car fault - the accident wasn't caused by the manufacturer, however they got into a lot of trouble becuase it was very predictable that given X number of cars solved, Y number would get into an accident with the correct set of circumstances to make this a problem. What you are trying to say is SMRT should formulate numerous ways to prevent an accident. However, an accident is an accident because the unexpected and unwanted happens. If i cross the road when the traffic light shows a red man and get hit by a vehicle, can i sue LTA? i can claim that the red man is too small, i am colour blind, the green man changed to red too quickly, the road limit should be 30 not 50 so drivers can initiate emergency braking when i stepped on the road. I dont think it makes sense. Theres too many arguments i can make to justify my own misjudgment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galantspeedz Turbocharged June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 My journey starts from Kallang. It is rare occasion that i see SMRT staff on the platform. I see the security guy after ticket booth more that staff on the platform. i try take to kallang today and see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jj5599 1st Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 Pusher is liable. Must be some aunty kiasi want to get a seat thus pushed her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acieed 1st Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 "DUE TO GREEDs" -- This is very hypothetical that has no way to prove right ? Whether there is any negligence or shortcomings in the current setup, it is left to the court and the expert witnesses to judge, but they cannot judge whether its motivated by greed or by sadness. Can you really put a fixed price to loss of limbs or loss of life ? All in all, it might actually be good for all Singaporeans because the safety of all MRT stations will be openly reviewed when they present all the evidence and debate the evidence from both sides. Some improvements to current facilities or SOP may happen. That will depends on the time of the occurance lah bro... If she is pushed esp when the mrt comes, do u think the train is able to stop without taking a hit at the girl? So must see the footage... like what I said, if she is suing the SMRT DUE TO GREEDs.... then she deserve to go home empty handed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csnewbie 1st Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 too add on, IF the half screen doors were up, this would not have happened. overcrowding is the culprit la. if not....human see train comes.....reflexes will move him/her away from danger. at the point.....SMRT seems got some responsibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apvman 2nd Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 If she was behind the yellow line, what safety rules was she ignoring? So coming back again. If I PUSH U IN THE MRT, U GOT into accident because THERE is no barrier and u are standing behind yellow line. I am not liable for your injury and SMRT is liable for IT? hahahah... Good one.. Good point but not relevant... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 Another silly idea? U mean SMRT had to put someone there 365 days, 6am to 11.30pm to prevent PUSHING or similar things? HAHAHHA.....No wonder everyone in the world are laughing at us... hahaha.. We act like babies.. they do that in japan and taiwan. why not here? pls venture out of SG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 What you are trying to say is SMRT should formulate numerous ways to prevent an accident. However, an accident is an accident because the unexpected and unwanted happens. If i cross the road when the traffic light shows a red man and get hit by a vehicle, can i sue LTA? i can claim that the red man is too small, i am colour blind, the green man changed to red too quickly, the road limit should be 30 not 50 so drivers can initiate emergency braking when i stepped on the road. I dont think it makes sense. Theres too many arguments i can make to justify my own misjudgment. Actually I'm not. What I am trying to say, is that IF it is determined that this is an accident that is relatively likely to happen, THEN SMRT should have a way of preventing it. IF it is something that is a freak occurance that is not likely to ever repeat itself, then SMRT has no liability, and the proper solution would be to sue the pusher (if they can be identified) or help, if any, to be offered out of the kindness of our hearts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 So coming back again. If I PUSH U IN THE MRT, U GOT into accident because THERE is no barrier and u are standing behind yellow line. I am not liable for your injury and SMRT is liable for IT? hahahah... Good one.. Good point but not relevant... More than one person can be liable right? And what if the person did not push on purpose, but was themselves pushed or knocked? I am not arguing for or against the compensation being forthcoming, I am just trying to outline what I THINK the court case will be trying to determine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 "DUE TO GREEDs" -- This is very hypothetical that has no way to prove right ? Whether there is any negligence or shortcomings in the current setup, it is left to the court and the expert witnesses to judge, but they cannot judge whether its motivated by greed or by sadness. Can you really put a fixed price to loss of limbs or loss of life ? All in all, it might actually be good for all Singaporeans because the safety of all MRT stations will be openly reviewed when they present all the evidence and debate the evidence from both sides. Some improvements to current facilities or SOP may happen. ok we take their gdp / capita ok? $8,643 * 40 = $345 720 only what bro thats probably what she'd earn or most probably even less in her working life. Lets add 600k for her prosthetic legs and medical followup 945.720 k Is there a need for 3.4 million? Its greed. No two ways about it. That is in the first place if she even deserves any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acieed 1st Gear June 20, 2011 Share June 20, 2011 I don't know what really happened in this case, but think about these scenarios below. If the station is overcrowded, and there is a fire. People are rushing out of the station, the exit is too small for the thousands of people running for their lives. You fall down and get trampled by thousands of people behind you. Whose responsibility is it ? Was the fire code violated ? So coming back again. If I PUSH U IN THE MRT, U GOT into accident because THERE is no barrier and u are standing behind yellow line. I am not liable for your injury and SMRT is liable for IT? hahahah... Good one.. Good point but not relevant... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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