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  On 6/13/2011 at 4:19 AM, Stanchiam said:

right, when moving cold air is blowing into it so its great.

will wrap up the exhaust first and see how is the effect before deciding if want to do shielding

When i reach home i park my car and turn off the engine, i touch the aluminum intake pipe and it dont feel hot, but after i go down half hour later to take some item, i check again and it is hot, i suppose the heat start to spread to the pipe

 

exhaust is stock, dont think i want to change it, not into high speed, just want faster pickup(which i surprisingly get for this mod) and make room for my HHO project.

need to shield from rain else its going to be a problem, by the way if you never change to lower springs then no need to worry about flood days.

 

also you can use tanabe honda EK 1992 font springs if you want to lower your car

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  On 6/13/2011 at 4:31 AM, Kwanheng said:

need to shield from rain else its going to be a problem, by the way if you never change to lower springs then no need to worry about flood days.

 

also you can use tanabe honda EK 1992 font springs if you want to lower your car

i have checked, rain unable to reach the filter directly

i am going to wrap up the banana but find it to be a little rusty like below pic

 

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hmm....will sand it off and spray with high temp spray before wrapping. hmm...hope can wrap it up as the shape is weird(think they design it this way to save cost)

 

will be good if i can change to this(all pipe equal length and smooth stainless steel) but unable to find it locally, think cost about 130

 

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  On 6/14/2011 at 2:08 AM, Stanchiam said:

will be good if i can change to this(all pipe equal length and smooth stainless steel) but unable to find it locally, think cost about 130

 

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Should be able to get Man or FK to fabricate one for you.

 

SS will be more ex though.

 

How does the HHO work on gasoline vehicles?

 

Hydrogen combustible hence pumped into intake manifold?

 

Just a safety concern is that if this hydrogen leaks during idle, in the heated engine bay, would this be a possibility of a fire hazard?

 

Or are you going to use a control chip to link generation output to pedal 0-5V during engine running?

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  On 6/14/2011 at 3:35 AM, Moredhel said:

Should be able to get Man or FK to fabricate one for you.

 

SS will be more ex though.

 

How does the HHO work on gasoline vehicles?

 

Hydrogen combustible hence pumped into intake manifold?

 

Just a safety concern is that if this hydrogen leaks during idle, in the heated engine bay, would this be a possibility of a fire hazard?

 

Or are you going to use a control chip to link generation output to pedal 0-5V during engine running?

 

do u know how much it will cost? dont need ss

 

yes, through the air intake

my system will come with flash back arrestor and there is no possibility of fire hazard since if there is leak, at most u will heard pop sound.

will be installing a simple efie/map enhancer device to bypass the ecu so that the car can run leaner with the hho and thus maximize fuel mileage

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Wrapping up exhaust and added something to the intake pipe

 

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banana is rusty, have used a steel brush and sand paper to get rid of some rust first

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clean off the rust with paper

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slightly better

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clean with wet cloth first before wrapping

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place into water first before wrapping exhaust

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more pictures later

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mission impossible, unable to wrap it fully due to the shape of the manifold

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no choice, use stainless steel wire to hold the wrap in place, find that it is very secure too.

was told the wrap will turn brown, then turn white again later

In the process of doing the wrap, i have spoil the aluminum foil, will be changing it

 

Do find engine bay is cooler than before, much cooler

*some people even spray high temp silicone over the wrap to further reduce heat

will buy one and spray it if can find where to sell in singapore

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Bro, veri good DIY. Just be aware that after u had thermo wrapped ur manifold, the corrosion on the metal surface will get worst and be sure to check once awhile for leak/crack on the manifold.

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  On 6/16/2011 at 4:52 AM, Howeytan20 said:

Bro, veri good DIY. Just be aware that after u had thermo wrapped ur manifold, the corrosion on the metal surface will get worst and be sure to check once awhile for leak/crack on the manifold.

some bro say iron will not crack, some say stainless steel will not crack

not sure who is right. Anyway will monitor.

Any sign to tell me its crack? dont want to open up the wrap cause alot of stainless steel wire

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The manifold/metal could be damage due

- corrosion under insulation. Ensure the insulation is mantain 'dry' and prevent oil/grease on the surface as this cause hot spot.

- As the manifold/metal had been wrapped up, the heat release via radiation had been very much reduced. In short, the surface of the manifold is 'hotter' than its design for. So depend of the grade of material used for the manifold.

 

As for looking out for leak/crack, just stand infront of the car and 'Smell' for unfiltered fume with the engine running. [;)]

 

Regards

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  On 6/16/2011 at 4:40 AM, Stanchiam said:

mission impossible, unable to wrap it fully due to the shape of the manifold

 

 

no choice, use stainless steel wire to hold the wrap in place, find that it is very secure too.

was told the wrap will turn brown, then turn white again later

In the process of doing the wrap, i have spoil the aluminum foil, will be changing it

 

Do find engine bay is cooler than before, much cooler

*some people even spray high temp silicone over the wrap to further reduce heat

will buy one and spray it if can find where to sell in singapore

stan, your aircon insulation seems to be so much ticker then mine! anyway my aircon is very cold now thanks to your ideal

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  On 6/17/2011 at 12:39 AM, Kwanheng said:

stan, your aircon insulation seems to be so much ticker then mine! anyway my aircon is very cold now thanks to your ideal

thats the result i have too, but some bros here dont believe

anyway, glad u enjoy it.

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  On 6/17/2011 at 12:48 AM, Stanchiam said:

thats the result i have too, but some bros here dont believe

anyway, glad u enjoy it.

its enough for me to belive as my specs keep flogging up everytime i open my car door!

 

also the effect is has not reach its max as i got a part which my insulation cannnot fit. maybe this weekend i will try to get it in and cover the piping with metal fold to protect the insulation provided my back is not aching anymore [:)]

 

how i wish my qq is much higher so its easy to do the insulation..

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  On 6/12/2011 at 12:46 PM, Mona-vie said:

Thats not a good setup. Its sucking hot air directly from the radiator. For a good setup, you should house the open pod in a heat shielded box, then create a duct out of the engine bay to suck in cold air.

 

 

what he said

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  On 6/12/2011 at 12:47 PM, Mona-vie said:

Rain is not really a problem. the only issue is only when filter is submerged in water (eg flood), then its a problem. The that bit of wtaer won't matter at all.

 

 

rain/water dirt/dust will very very quickly clog these small filters and increase their already poor flow resistance = reduced power.

 

 

if/when it gets wet - performance will suffer

 

 

filters need to be kept away from dirt/water/oil

 

 

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Sorry to say but I am very sure looking at your setup that you have lost performance and certainly increased the need to maintain filter.

 

 

To be honest aftermarket CAI mods are almost 100% a waste of money , 50% of the time reduce performance and 100% of the time incease need for maintenance (smaller filters need regular cleaning)

 

 

 

 

CAI and how they work:

 

 

Cold air is denser than hot air. (dense air=higher pressure air=good)

Air anywhere in engine bay is hot air.

Air behind radiator is hot air.

Air anywhere in engine bay is hot air.

Air inside CAI ducting can be heated by engine/manifolds

Air outside engine bay is colder, higher pressure.

 

 

What you need is ducting from outside the car then thermo wrap the ducting inside the engine bay. Dont allow engine bay air in

 

Or better still......put back the original CAI. Your car will perform better :D

 

 

 

 

 

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what u said should be true, for me the real world result is i am getting faster acceleration and can feel the car more power than before

that is good enough for me

anyway, as said before, i am doing this to gain space to fit my hho project, the gain that i enjoy now is a bonus,

in fact, i was prepared to suffer at lower end like most bro said, glad that not only my car did not suffer lower end, it gain

 

  On 6/17/2011 at 1:53 AM, Badder said:

Sorry to say but I am very sure looking at your setup that you have lost performance and certainly increased the need to maintain filter.

 

 

To be honest aftermarket CAI mods are almost 100% a waste of money , 50% of the time reduce performance and 100% of the time incease need for maintenance (smaller filters need regular cleaning)

 

 

 

 

CAI and how they work:

 

 

Cold air is denser than hot air. (dense air=higher pressure air=good)

Air anywhere in engine bay is hot air.

Air behind radiator is hot air.

Air anywhere in engine bay is hot air.

Air inside CAI ducting can be heated by engine/manifolds

Air outside engine bay is colder, higher pressure.

 

 

What you need is ducting from outside the car then thermo wrap the ducting inside the engine bay. Dont allow engine bay air in

 

Or better still......put back the original CAI. Your car will perform better :D

 

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  On 6/17/2011 at 2:06 AM, Stanchiam said:

what u said should be true, for me the real world result is i am getting faster acceleration and can feel the car more power than before

that is good enough for me

anyway, as said before, i am doing this to gain space to fit my hho project, the gain that i enjoy now is a bonus,

in fact, i was prepared to suffer at lower end like most bro said, glad that not only my car did not suffer lower end, it gain

 

 

Im sure you feel its made a difference. Ive done car mods myself and had the same 'feeling' its always subjective. The fact is dynos dont lie. In 99% of cases where CAI mods (alone with no other mod) are done and tested with a dyno they are proven to give no improvement in performance, and quite often they reduce it. But driving is all about enjoyment and if a mod makes you enjoy the car more then thats great!

 

when an aftermarket CAI is fitted its often louder (as the stock one is designed to reduce intake sound) the intake sound certainly sounds racier and goes a long way to making one feel the car is faster. but like i said dynos dont lie. I moded my intake on one of my cars not for performance but for sound as i like to 'hear' the car

 

Good luck with your mods.

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