What are you guys opinions on Jaguar?

[Damienic]

I know Spore market is small and insignificant to some car manufacturers, but it wld be nice n environmentally friendly, if Jaguar could design cars w turbo charged engines that r of smaller CC like 2.0l or 1.8L Turbo.

 

For their designs, I absolutely love the new designs. Sleek and modern.

 

I love some of their models rear design which looks a bit like aston martin...

[Thaiyotakamli]

I love some of their models rear design which looks a bit like aston martin...

its because they more to the coupe type, the design look futuristic when the back of the car they make it slanted but then again will be smaller headroom

[Coupecabriolet]

it's almost like..

 

everyone else drives a BMW or Mercedes or Audi, but deep down, they all love Jaguar.

[Thaiyotakamli]

it's almost like..

 

everyone else drives a BMW or Mercedes or Audi, but deep down, they all love Jaguar.

 

[D3badge]

unfortunately Jaguar does not have entry level models like the 320, A4 or C180. or else I would have been tempted to consider one..their cheapest model is out of reach for me, alas...

 

I thought X-type price like 3 series or A4 level but that was previous model

[D3badge]

You mean the super old model? that one very uncle looking. The current models are XJ and XF which all cost above 200k for new

all cheap cheap less than 50K for 4 years left omv $34k not bad not bad

 

http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/listing...d.y=5&AVL=2

Edited June 12, 2011 by D3badge

[ER-3682]

think for those who love to drive and have high mileage, diesel car more worth to buy

Must use more than 35,000km a year to offset the high road taxes.

[A5SB]

I think Jaguar is in an identity crisis of sorts. It feels like it has the air to be with the snotty brands like Bentley and Aston Martin etc but yet it still seems mass market. I feel it should sort out itself and decide whether it wants to be a niche luxury marquee or an automaker trying to tackle the market all round.

 

I think that the in thing among automakers as of late is in creating a corporate identity which is best seen in the front fascia of the car. Some may disagree with me and think that a repeititive design on the grille amongst all the models in the whole stable smacks of a lack of imagination. But i feel that it inspires brand confidence. It tells me for once that there is a consistent and holistic approach to design engineering and R&D development as a whole. Ambitious brand-wide roadmaps impress me because it tells me that the management knows where it is heading in the short and mid term(s)

 

How many times have we seen boring lineups from carmakers only to find an one hit wonder within the range? Save for that one model, the rest are forgettable and best left consigned to history.

Yes, the front fascia of the car cotributes 90% of the image.

 

I like the way Jaguar XF looks from just about every angle except for the front fascia - I"m talking about the XF, as I was in the market for executive car recently. I just think the headlights looks like a goldfish with eye infections, and the grille could be a little bigger. Then again, it's a matter of taste. But when it finally comes down to decision time, I wanted something that is less "high class" or "tow kay", so that ruled out BMW, Merc and Jaguar.

[Thaiyotakamli]

Must use more than 35,000km a year to offset the high road taxes.

I can do that lol, so i should get XJ instead of A8:(

[Watwheels]

If you look at Jaguar's history you would want stay far away regardless of how fantastic its range of cars looked. Before Ford bought Jag it was managed by British Leyland or later what it became MG Rover. Yikes!

 

I recalled reading an article on Ford buying Jag very old factory, they took 10 times longer to built a car as compared to Lexus and the quality defects were "legendary"(I was like, wow). An average of 11 defects per vehicle when Japanese manufacturers were averaging less than one per vehicle. When recession hit in the '90s, it made things worse for Ford owned Jag.

 

I think Ford spent a lot of money just to buy the Jag's shares. Something in the region of US$2billion. That's not including building a new factory for it, making it more cost effective and reducing the man hours of building one car. After the Americans credit crisis, Ford buay tahan anymore and sell it to Tata.

 

They did try to sell mass volume cars like the X-type which rival the BMW 3-series but not successful. RWD, 2.1L V6~2.5L V6, between 2001~2009, very cramped interior though, V6 engine make it nose heavy thus handling lose out to 3-series, thirsty V6, pricey. Dan there's still the reliability issue.

 

As you can see the branding, the cat fixed to the bonnet, still appeals to many. New makes still new to see the reliability. I rather look to other brands like Maserati or Porsche which also offers 4-door luxury cars, other dan the usual choice of Audi, BMW & Merc.

Edited June 13, 2011 by Watwheels

[En0203]

have been a fan of jag since primary school because my grandpa is a jag die heart and I think he sort of brainwashed me since I was a kid. my grandpa has since collected the following jag:

1966 mark II (and it is still there with us, but under engine restoration, amazing classic!)

series 1 (scrapped)

series 2 (scrapped. this was a v12 6.0 liter but swapped out for smaller engine because we couldn't afford the high road tax and consumption)

series 3 (v6 4.2 liter - still running strong!)

series 4 (v6 2.9 liter - still running strong!)

 

note that we can't really afford new, but being a jag fan my grandpa bought them in at scrap and restore them to usable conditon, my grandpa is truly a jag enthusiast! he is more than 80 years old now, and he is still driving his series 3 and 4 around at least once a week! he wash them at least once a week all by himself!

 

having said that, I grew up sitting in one and I must say that I like every single jag to-date, especially the unique design (long boot + long bonnet) and the brilliant interior that totally stand out from the rest (merc, bmw). jag has come a long way, from being totally unreliable to fairy reliable now. what I really like about it is that the car shape never changed, from series one till now, until the recent XF, it has becomes something we no longer recognized. luckily the unique shape of the XJ is still slightly preserved. I can see that XF was a totally new concept when it first came out and the new XJ follows the design closely while trying to add in the long bonnet and boot shape of the old jag. I am glad that they did or else I may never like that new XJ anymore. yes the XF looks good but it just doesn't look like a jag at all. I would like it see the future jag to stick to the classic jag shape as close as possible so as to maintain the strong family identity. many ppl said the jaguar S is ugly, but if u know how the classic S type looks like then u would know that how the design came about. it actually got the retro look of the old S.

 

I think the X type was a disaster. yes it was created to capture the market of 3 ser, C class and A4, but then it totally brings down the class of the car. I think jag should just focus on the higher market to maintain its heritage and pride, though I know many wish to get a more affortable jag including me. but it will seriously just bring down the whole class. no offence to the owners but the 1 series, A class, A3 and A1 looks like a joke to me.

 

on the other hand, the XK is gorgeous! now if only they bring back the successor of the XJ220 it'll be eating into the F and L territory.

 

current favorite jag to date: XJ220

Edited June 13, 2011 by En0203

[Pisces69]

The X-type,but i think no more selling,the U.K. just launched the 2.2L Diesel XF,i think they will bring it in,but S'porean,still cannot accept the 'high' road taxes of Diesel.

 

Ya we gonna miss quite a few good diesel cars cos of our silly high Diesel R Tax.

 

[The_Bear]

Jaguar being around today is a miracle by itself. Given the strong progress made by Benz, BMW, Lexus & Audi in the luxury car segment and new entries by Porsche, Aston Martin and Maserati, things are looking worse for Jaguar.

 

Being bought by Tata does not really sends a signal of confidence to buyers. Neither did being Ford owned.

 

But the fact that we are seeing more Jaguars on the road than 10 years ago means that something is going right for the British marque. I will still call it a British marque despite the new owners because that is what Rolls Royce and Bentley are. Even Manchester United and Liverpool is still British despite their new owners.

 

And being British is what makes Jaguar ticks. Just like Alfa Romeo for being Italian and the England Football team (& we all know they have been rather crap since 66). What these 3 have in common is 'Soul'.

 

It is rather strange to think of a lump of pressed steel as having 'Soul' but cars appeal to their owner's emotional more than any other goods in the market. Buying a car is more of an emotional choice than logical in most cases, therefore it is this illogical appeal that makes Jaguar and Alfa Romeo relevant to the market. Just like the support of England Team will continue, as crap as they are.

 

To me, Jaguar has always been the old-school gentleman car (the incident at Centerpoint not withstanding). Driven by lawyers, doctors and architects. My guess is in the 60's and 70's, most of these professionals studied in England (Australia was still a penal colony and America still fighting their civil war back then), as that was the place to be. But like everything British, there is a sense of irrelevance in the 21st century i.e The Queen, The Commonwealth States, de Havilland Comet & Marmite. The new models certainly looks the part but the old stories of unreliability and bad resale value has put me off from considering owning one, especially when BMW and Mercedes are rolling out equally interesting models all the while.

 

So Jaguar is kindof at a crossroad where it can either slip into oblivion in the next few years (think Saab) or make the critical breakthrough (think Volvo). At the moment, it is more like "Do you like Jaguar?" Yes "Would you buy one?" No thanks. Just like I support England but I put my money on Spain or Germany at the World Cup.

 

 

[RadX]

good anal-orgy bear.....and yes, Jaguar still commands that 'class'

[Tourdefrance]

Yes, the front fascia of the car cotributes 90% of the image.

 

I like the way Jaguar XF looks from just about every angle except for the front fascia - I"m talking about the XF, as I was in the market for executive car recently. I just think the headlights looks like a goldfish with eye infections, and the grille could be a little bigger. Then again, it's a matter of taste. But when it finally comes down to decision time, I wanted something that is less "high class" or "tow kay", so that ruled out BMW, Merc and Jaguar.

 

Goldfish bulging eyes no more! Which was my concern too.

The 2012 new face liftted XF is so fierce looking!

Wondering when it is coming to town. I am definitely keen!

 

 

With Day Running Lamp and no more ugly orange side lamp, I hope

Edited June 13, 2011 by Tourdefrance

[L_club23]

good anal-orgy bear.....and yes, Jaguar still commands that 'class'

 

I like that class, but not willing to fork out extra for it...

Edited June 13, 2011 by L_club23

[Thaiyotakamli]

Goldfish bulging eyes no more! Which was my concern too.

The 2012 new face liftted XF is so fierce looking!

Wondering when it is coming to town. I am definitely keen!

 

 

 

 

 

With Day Running Lamp and no more ugly orange side lamp, I hope

in front identical with XJ

[Mike1234]

Jaguar has a very long history of the British brands

 

Lotus (Now Proton owned), Rolls-Royce (Now BMW's subsidiary), Bentley (Now VW Group), Ashton Martin (Used to be with Jaguar under Premier Auto Group but now currently is under a group of UK investors)

 

Till date, Jaguar models are still assembled in Britain.

 

Take note: Jaguar is also known as Jaguar Land Rover...However, i would only touch on Jaguar....

 

Under the Premier Auto Group of Ford, these brands like Volvo, Jaguar uses Ford engines.

 

Till date, V6,V8 engines are still sourced from Ford. However, recently, Jaguar Land Lover had planned and will be starting its production of four cylinder engine plant (up to 2.0L) in India.

 

Also, recently, Jaguar Land Rover has opened the first India Plant located in Pune. The plant will be doing assembling of CKDs of Land Rover Freelander 2. Thus personally I would not be surprised that in the next few years time, there will be "Indian assembled Jaguar Land Rover" which I believed would be models with four cylinder engine (up to 2.0l).

 

IMO, given the trend, Jaguar might be forced inducing these four cylinder engines (up to 2.0l).

 

It is because Jaguar Land Rover has announced that they will release an "X type replacement" that would be competing in 3-series/ C-Class market which is due to launch in 2013/2014.

 

Under the new ownership of TATA motors, Jaguar Land Rover has done pretty well due to emerging markets like China and India. In fact, it has done better than its previous owners. One of the reasons is because China has a strong demand for luxury models.

 

Jaguar currently offers models like XJ which is actually the full size Luxury model. XF is actually the mid-size luxury model. XK is the grand tourer luxury model.

 

Hybrid variants of Jaguar Land Rover models (Land Rover, XK, XF, and XK) would be expected to release by 2013-2014 which are equipped with electric motor and a new ZF 8-spd auto transmission. However, Diesel-electric hybrid would release first while petrol-electric hybrid would release later.

 

Jaguar has also released a Jet-powered C-X75 Concept which would actually be rivaling against the likes of Veyron. This version of C-X75, Jaguar has teamed up with Williams F1 team. The concept model will feature F1 Tech like aerodynamics, 1.6L four -cylinders boosted engine that would be similar as William F1 Team. F1 has announced that by 2013, all teams would have to down size their engine variants to 1.6L. In this concept, it will also feature hybrid which is plug-in electric motor, Carbon Fiber tub chassis, Gas turbines.

 

Looks like Jaguar Land Rover is moving towards hybrid.

 

Personally, i find Jaguar offering a very

Edited June 13, 2011 by Mike1234