Csbo Neutral Newbie June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 Hi everyone, I have started on a new topic as my FYP idea is rejected by my teacher, he wants something simpler. Seriously wasted my plans. Sigh now he wants something like cylindrical shape so will be more stable. And now what I am stressing on is the separation in the cylinder. How am I going to separate the oil and water mixture taken in from the sea? Anyone from marine industry has good ideas on how can I actually install some oil separation techniques into this cylinder? Thanks ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimnfire 4th Gear June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 i'm not good at this but why not suck the sea water into a containment then burn the sea water together with the oil since water will reach boiling point first than oil and turn to steam at the end product you will be left will the oil just my humble idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csbo Neutral Newbie June 7, 2011 Author Share June 7, 2011 i'm not good at this but why not suck the sea water into a containment then burn the sea water together with the oil since water will reach boiling point first than oil and turn to steam at the end product you will be left will the oil just my humble idea Thanks for the idea, in my new design, water will flow from all sides into the cylindrical device where there will be a tank or place to contain all the mixture. Then don't know how to actually separate both of them. Then have to pump the sea water back to the sea. Burning will be a bit too hard. But thanks for the contribution as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimnfire 4th Gear June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 Thanks for the idea, in my new design, water will flow from all sides into the cylindrical device where there will be a tank or place to contain all the mixture. Then don't know how to actually separate both of them. Then have to pump the sea water back to the sea. Burning will be a bit too hard. But thanks for the contribution as well. well you got to modified the idea if you must since global warming is increasing the sea level no harm burning of few gallons of sea water Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csbo Neutral Newbie June 7, 2011 Author Share June 7, 2011 well you got to modified the idea if you must since global warming is increasing the sea level no harm burning of few gallons of sea water But I think burning will be too slow.. It would be faster if there is some kind of good filtration system that can separate the oil and sea water when taken in, which can pump the oil into another bigger storage tnk which is outside the device and the seawater back to the sea, it would be perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohboonguan 1st Gear June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 well you got to modified the idea if you must since global warming is increasing the sea level no harm burning of few gallons of sea water it will come down as rain and flood orchard road and tanglin... I will ask those stakeholder to thanks you for such idea... :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csbo Neutral Newbie June 7, 2011 Author Share June 7, 2011 it will come down as rain and flood orchard road and tanglin... I will ask those stakeholder to thanks you for such idea... :P Mine is to control and clear up oil spill only. Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohboonguan 1st Gear June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 Mine is to control and clear up oil spill only. Lol What level are you at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohboonguan 1st Gear June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 I suppose you are University last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPeripheraL Clutched June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 Hm, you can use the density difference between the 2 liquid, thus separating them. this is used in many industries. :) i cannot leak much as it might be a trade secret in where i was trained. but mainly it consists of a tank with a input of water(with oil), using retention time and density difference, separate them :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPeripheraL Clutched June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 What level are you at? It should be a poly final year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohboonguan 1st Gear June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 Hm, you can use the density difference between the 2 liquid, thus separating them. this is used in many industries. :) i cannot leak much as it might be a trade secret in where i was trained. but mainly it consists of a tank with a input of water(with oil), using retention time and density difference, separate them :) Aiyo... Nothing Secret lolz... There are many service provider to do such job... Density requires chamber as buffer... I can see filtration system combine with Density seperation... If talking about using in marine for environment cleaning in situation of oil spill... Should be University level... If straight forward , like you said... Using density, create chamber to seperate them... if University standard... is guess the oil-water filtration system will come in to the picture... the problem now is the , what type of filter and filter material... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shull Turbocharged June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 (edited) Hi everyone, I have started on a new topic as my FYP idea is rejected by my teacher, he wants something simpler. Seriously wasted my plans. Sigh now he wants something like cylindrical shape so will be more stable. And now what I am stressing on is the separation in the cylinder. How am I going to separate the oil and water mixture taken in from the sea? Anyone from marine industry has good ideas on how can I actually install some oil separation techniques into this cylinder? Thanks Make use of the different boiling point of oil and water.. aka, build a distillery filtering won't work because both water and oil are liquid.. Edited June 7, 2011 by Shull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohboonguan 1st Gear June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 (edited) Lets try the simple method.... Solution 1. Since your cylinder let the mixture flow in from all direction... let the mixture flow in , the oil will float as it have lesser density, whereas the water will sink to the bottom of the cylinder... in this case, make the outlet at the bottom and release the water from there till the cylinder is fill with oil, stop the mixture input, and divert the outlet to other vessel or sump pit to contain the oil... Hope my bird brain c--k idea can help you in some way... Edited June 7, 2011 by Sohboonguan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 Make use of the different boiling point of oil and water.. aka, build a distillery hmm.. water boil 1st or oil boil 1st? pardon me for my lack of knowledge.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPeripheraL Clutched June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 hmm.. water boil 1st or oil boil 1st? pardon me for my lack of knowledge.. water, but remember that a distillation unit will require a large amount of energy which might actually harm the environment rather than helping it. this is also the reason why many industries use the difference in density instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPeripheraL Clutched June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 Aiyo... Nothing Secret lolz... There are many service provider to do such job... Density requires chamber as buffer... I can see filtration system combine with Density seperation... If talking about using in marine for environment cleaning in situation of oil spill... Should be University level... If straight forward , like you said... Using density, create chamber to seperate them... if University standard... is guess the oil-water filtration system will come in to the picture... the problem now is the , what type of filter and filter material... i find it a bit too simple for a uni student.. anyway it's his project, all we should do is provide ideas, and how to achieve it is up to him. feeding him with everything will not help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shull Turbocharged June 7, 2011 Share June 7, 2011 water, but remember that a distillation unit will require a large amount of energy which might actually harm the environment rather than helping it. this is also the reason why many industries use the difference in density instead. Does using density require the mixture to settle down first? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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