CNA: MG (NS) Chan wants to engage & give back to community

[Throttle2]

this is not abt wat he earns for his COA job, its whether he deserves to b paid $15,000/mth or not as an MP & now cabinet minister. He isnt known as MG Kee Chew for nothing... if he continues 2 b like this, to quote someone" i duno wat 2 say"

 

dont get me wrong.

 

I dont disagree with you at all.

 

 

[Ncss]

ha... haha... Saw this link from FB. Kee Chew!

 

http://sg-truth.blogspot.com/2011/05/chan-...e-kuan-yew.html

 

Edited May 22, 2011 by Ncss

[Vulcann]

this is not abt wat he earns for his COA job, its whether he deserves to b paid $15,000/mth or not as an MP & now cabinet minister. He isnt known as MG Kee Chew for nothing... if he continues 2 b like this, to quote someone" i duno wat 2 say"

 

I was hoping he would say the YOG's blown budget was regrettable.

 

His precedessor still make people TL by saying it was all worth it & given the chance would do all over again.

 

Simply arrogant & p*ss folks off.

 

S$387 million!!!

[Chongster]

ha... haha... Saw this link from FB. Kee Chew!

 

http://sg-truth.blogspot.com/2011/05/chan-...e-kuan-yew.html

 

This has proven to be malicious falsehood. He is not connected, grew up in.a single family, mum worked as a machine operator to bring him up.

[Tonyng]

This has proven to be malicious falsehood. He is not connected, grew up in.a single family, mum worked as a machine operator to bring him up.

 

People place great emphasis on humble beginnings. But I feel it is only but an aspect of someone's willing to serve.

 

Think: with nothing to fall back on, would you stick your neck out to stand up against a policy wrong and rock the wonderful boat you are now on?

 

To control a yesman, you always need something to control him with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Zak7182]

he's lost my respect for him by the initial impression he's given me through his arrogant responses.

 

now let's see how he performs.

 

PERFORM?????

Do you think he cleans his own rifle?

His vehicle also got designated parking lot.

His lunch also got special seat.

If come to work late also nobody dare to ask...

 

To think that he is a servant to the nation.

 

[Yewheng]

ha... haha... Saw this link from FB. Kee Chew!

 

http://sg-truth.blogspot.com/2011/05/chan-...e-kuan-yew.html

 

 

Hmm.. I was thinking could it be photoshop? As you all know there is people who is so good at photo editing that sometimes if done very well and can fool a lot of people.. [laugh]

Edited May 23, 2011 by Yewheng

[Chongster]

People place great emphasis on humble beginnings. But I feel it is only but an aspect of someone's willing to serve.

 

Think: with nothing to fall back on, would you stick your neck out to stand up against a policy wrong and rock the wonderful boat you are now on?

 

To control a yesman, you always need something to control him with.

 

Elite we complain cannot emphathise. Poor we complain easy to control. then how!?!

 

 

[Adrianli]

But public perception think differently.. so that's why once sign on as regular in SAF.. very difficult to come out of SAF unless they themself has very good connections outside or got their own business. If not it would be very hard for them. Even so as they would have 0 experience when they left SAF compared to others who would already has many years of experience in outside work. That even put more disadvantage to them. Quite sad actually.. so it's like no turing back when a decision is made to sign on as SAF regular already. ( For most of them )

 

Not true leh.

 

My batch of 14 sign-on regulars, after six years contact, till today only two still remain. The 14 of us went thru BMT and various courses together.

 

One take over father's business

One became own boss and have two companies now

The rest of us in private sectors

 

Onboard ship department, out of nine colleagues(excluding the chiefs), only two still in the navy.

 

One in LTA

One in F&B

One in MPA

The rest of us in marine private sectors

[Yewheng]

Not true leh.

 

My batch of 14 sign-on regulars, after six years contact, till today only two still remain. The 14 of us went thru BMT and various courses together.

 

One take over father's business

One became own boss and have two companies now

The rest of us in private sectors

 

Onboard ship department, out of nine colleagues(excluding the chiefs), only two still in the navy.

 

One in LTA

One in F&B

One in MPA

The rest of us in marine private sectors

 

Hmm.. maybe you met those lucky ones.. but seriously speaking.. EX-SAF regular people have serious disadvantage against outside world people who has job experience and age.. unless maybe navy, than maybe different story as navy can work as ST marine, ST engineering and those shipping industry.

 

[Adrianli]

Hmm.. maybe you met those lucky ones.. but seriously speaking.. EX-SAF regular people have serious disadvantage against outside world people who has job experience and age.. unless maybe navy, than maybe different story as navy can work as ST marine, ST engineering and those shipping industry.

 

As far as I know, no specialist I worked with went to ST related companies looking for a job. Because those who are there are those former Maj, LTC and Col. They still act as if they are still in the SAF. Phui!!!

 

Only my former chief who is in his late 50's went to ST cos only ST could offer him a nice paying job at his age. He still work in the same naval camp he retired but don a different uniform. Now he is the service provider instead of a customer. But his work is very specialised, cannot reveal.

[Yewheng]

ok I stand corrected.. I misread your information. Let's move on.

Edited May 23, 2011 by Yewheng

[Upandcoming]

i think that while the bandwagon of flamming and anti-party sentiments is hot enough for one to feel like joining in, forum members should be mature and responsible in postings. Drawing the criticism of STOMP many years back when people questioned the value and meaning behind what so-called online journalists sought to do by posting certain pictures, I think it is important to ask ourselves what we are posting for?

 

I am just trying to be fair and give everyone a fair chance, just as we always wish our Bosses do.

 

We, the people, have been calling for MPs who can resonate with the people - one who is compassionate, one who listens, one who feels and then act upon areas which can improve your life and mine. So in the past, when perfect English-speaking MPs come about with their swashbucket style of English we feel disconnected and wonder if he can ever understand us. We asked for people who come from the ground, like some respectable Opposition members. Then came along this ex-General, who, from my knowledge from fellow NSmen and friends, is known to be unflappable, down-to-earth and just wishes to speak the 'language' of those he is speaking to - i.e. simple English or dialects or Mandarin/Malay when conversing with ordinary folks like us and when on the International Political Arena, to be professional and impressive. That ability to switch.

 

Now, we have this ex-General, who prefers to speak simply and without airs when talking to ordinary folks; but u notice that in Press Conferences and certain releases, the English is rather flawless and the stature commanding enough. And yet we people are unhappy? Now we seem to be happier if our MPs 'talk down onto us' ...What do we really want?

 

Personally I also feel that some of us have been posting with much speculation and prejudice, for instance new generation ERP, relationship of CCS etc etc. Can anyone really prove it? That would be interesting and more meaningful that just fanning rumours....

 

I think everyone deserves a fair chance, and not be judged before they started, if so then we should ask ourselves if we like that. Food for thought, not against anyone in particular and I must state that I am speaking as a man on the street, not that I am a fan of any Party in particular.

Edited May 23, 2011 by Upandcoming

[Yewheng]

ok. I also feel should give sometime for all of them to prove themself.. Hope for better changes in years to come [rolleyes]

[Mazdaowner]

As far as I know, no specialist I worked with went to ST related companies looking for a job. Because those who are there are those former Maj, LTC and Col. They still act as if they are still in the SAF. Phui!!!

 

Only my former chief who is in his late 50's went to ST cos only ST could offer him a nice paying job at his age. He still work in the same naval camp he retired but don a different uniform. Now he is the service provider instead of a customer. But his work is very specialised, cannot reveal.

 

Agree with Adrian, I served 8yrs contact, left, then now have been in a totally different sector for. What I did before, no problems, least to say, did teaching, programming, network management etc.

Not true all regulars share the same fate, it's how they work things out for themselves outside, those who have been getting it easy inside, leng here, slack there, will only suffer outside, it's a different mindset altogether. Those who maintain throw work attitude, discipline, move much faster then the normal guys outside, not to sabo, play, spoil market, work is work.

[Yewheng]

Agree with Adrian, I served 8yrs contact, left, then now have been in a totally different sector for. What I did before, no problems, least to say, did teaching, programming, network management etc.

Not true all regulars share the same fate, it's how they work things out for themselves outside, those who have been getting it easy inside, leng here, slack there, will only suffer outside, it's a different mindset altogether. Those who maintain throw work attitude, discipline, move much faster then the normal guys outside, not to sabo, play, spoil market, work is work.

 

Hmm.. ok.. thank you.. you share different perspective.. my mindset need to change.. [laugh]

[Bighappyjer]

time in this context doesnt mean not immediately.

time in this context relates to the results of the things that he does

 

he wasnt a choice of the People so in that aspect, I understand your view.

 

On another slightly off note, $15,000 is not much for the position

As Chief of Army, I expect him to make a few times that already.

 

I would just like to clarify, the $15,000pm is merely his MP allowance, and is exclusive of the much more substantial package he will receive as a minister.

[Duckduck]

I think everyone deserves a fair chance, and not be judged before they started, if so then we should ask ourselves if we like that. Food for thought, not against anyone in particular and I must state that I am speaking as a man on the street, not that I am a fan of any Party in particular.

 

we r paying him $15,000/mth before he has even proven himself... y dont we dont pay the pro-rated tax first, then when he shows his ability, then we pay the tax pro-rate to his salary?

 

if he is to command such a high salary, he must have track record right? will u pay someone $15,000/mth with no track record, in this case as an MP & minister? isnt this fair question? the way i see it, COA job is not equal to a job experience as an MP/minister.

Edited May 23, 2011 by Duckduck