Mustank Hypersonic May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 disagree. fact remains that these people will not be going into cbd everyday. if they travel from west to east, they will bypass cbd thus reducing the bottleneck in or around cbd if we build hubs in north west, north and north east, north bound kje, sle, tpe and kpe will be better ultilised in the morning. traffic in areas around the cbd will not be even affected. i recall a transport lamenting that if he put more trains on track to serve city bound traffic, the trains will go back near empty. decentralisation will serve to reduce the traffic bottlenecks and solve such problems on inefficiency ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky2007 Turbocharged May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 He's the one who got chased out of a Dunearn Rd condo by one of the residents who's a management committee member. The condo has no jaga and apparently he and entourage had just walked in without permission from anyone. Now he can put many Erp gantries outside this condo.. lol.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceroymenthol 6th Gear May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 Your assessment is .."SPOT ON"...this Lui is living 'in his own world' This one should be sent to the retirement camp long ago... Maybe now this Lui will ban any advertisments on vehicles which he deemed to obscene, to his liking! Oh ya.... He never watched porn before... So how he know what is obscene and what isn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolicense Turbocharged May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 how can we say tampines and changi biz hub didnt take off. if didnt take off, will bankers put their backroom guys there? if 30% of tampines and changi biz hub people live in the east, that have reduced quite some city bound traffic from the east. didn't take off - need to qualify that. backroom guys are there no doubt. but the bulk of human traffic during FOR BUSINESS OPERATIONS are still in the city. only the crowd going to work and getting off work (the back room guys) like 30% of the the workers in tampines and changi hub according to you, remain in the east. this is better than nothing of cos. but more can be done. a regional business centre has to service ALL businesses in that region. unfortunately, I still find that businessess not in the city, still have to go to the city to get some things done. that's what i mean by failure of the regional business centres. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolicense Turbocharged May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 disagree. fact remains that these people will not be going into cbd everyday. if they travel from west to east, they will bypass cbd thus reducing the bottleneck in or around cbd if we build hubs in north west, north and north east, north bound kje, sle, tpe and kpe will be better ultilised in the morning. traffic in areas around the cbd will not be even affected. i recall a transport lamenting that if he put more trains on track to serve city bound traffic, the trains will go back near empty. decentralisation will serve to reduce the traffic bottlenecks and solve such problems on inefficiency there in lies the problem. the city limits should have higher frequency of trains. the ulu places have lower frequency. this is the way all other countries run the train system. singapore is the only country that is so strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 Please lah bros, don't be so optimistic can? Significant reforms to COE we can all wait long long... Especially when your Ministar of Transport happened to have an uncanny resemblance to a HK B-grade actor! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearoil 1st Gear May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 there in lies the problem. the city limits should have higher frequency of trains. the ulu places have lower frequency. this is the way all other countries run the train system. singapore is the only country that is so strange. Why should I entertain ppl by sending in MORE trains? It is like feeding a monster who cannot stop eating and killing. Why can't you think outta the box.... If I were to decree like an Emperor that all shopping centers will now be located in Tuas and ulu areas and no more than a few are allowed in CBD and Orchard road... Would that not changed most if not all, of your traffic problems going into such areas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 how many trains can you put on a fixed amount of tracks. unless you increasing number of tracks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearoil 1st Gear May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 I agree with you. But somehow, I suspect, the people who make the decision on choosing CBD or regional, might have investment in the city. They will want the city to remain the city. If regional become too successful, the property price in the city will not grow, that's to their disadvantage. They have always been SELF SERVING.... Their pay says it all. Which is the problem that brings about more problems ... RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING...which have NO ending! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaweed 1st Gear May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 yes...future neighbour....it will push the property price in Yishun go up and up !!!....ha ha ha... [thumbsup] I think they are slowly doing it(for example tampines)...but i think not fast and aggressive enough...instead of the stupid COE...they should put their brains into strict penalty for those who choose to work in town...well you want to have your office in town..u have to pay a high price....and encourage office in town to move to sub-urban areas.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 disagree. fact remains that these people will not be going into cbd everyday. if they travel from west to east, they will bypass cbd thus reducing the bottleneck in or around cbd if we build hubs in north west, north and north east, north bound kje, sle, tpe and kpe will be better ultilised in the morning. traffic in areas around the cbd will not be even affected. i recall a transport lamenting that if he put more trains on track to serve city bound traffic, the trains will go back near empty. decentralisation will serve to reduce the traffic bottlenecks and solve such problems on inefficiency oh you talking only about CBD area.. then yes, it will have a effect. but what i am wondering is, will this affect the whole singapore instead?? then every jam now East to west already very jam liao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolicense Turbocharged May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 how many trains can you put on a fixed amount of tracks. unless you increasing number of tracks? 1. the system was built was flawed from the beginning not to cater to more train frequency only in the denser CBD and surburbs 2. without increasing the number of tracks, we can increase the frequency of trains for a group of stations. e.g. have a 3rd platform like say Expo station, then have trains stop at that platform and not go beyond that. that means there is a 50% increase in frequency for trains in that group of stations, say Raffles Place to Newton for example. other things can be done. but that's just for trains. gearoil wants to decree shopping centres in Tuas, so that's his suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 can you give some examples of businesses, not having a pressence in cbd, but having to send people into cbd area for business on a regular basis? my guess is that the city bound crowd are cbd workers and not people going in to do business. the fact that we can attract big banks to set up backroom offcies.using low rent already take away some part of the city bound traffic. if i have a biz in changi, surely i will do my banking with a branch in the east, instead of.trqvelling all the way to cbd. i might even do internet banking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolicense Turbocharged May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 (edited) oh you talking only about CBD area.. then yes, it will have a effect. but what i am wondering is, will this affect the whole singapore instead?? then every jam now East to west already very jam liao the tuas area always jam because of shipyard workers. there are only so few roads there. and all travel at the same time. once it is jam there, the tailback goes up to KJE even. Edited May 19, 2011 by Nolicense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 like i.said, dont put everything in the east or.the.west. put in the north west, north and north east Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 the tuas area always jam because of shipyard workers. there are only so few roads there. and all travel at the same time. once it is jam there, the tailback goes up to KJE even. Jam not just there... even AYE and PIE affected... This tuas have lots of work here.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 this addition platform thing is great idea!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolicense Turbocharged May 19, 2011 Share May 19, 2011 can you give some examples of businesses, not having a pressence in cbd, but having to send people into cbd area for business on a regular basis? my guess is that the city bound crowd are cbd workers and not people going in to do business. the fact that we can attract big banks to set up backroom offcies.using low rent already take away some part of the city bound traffic. if i have a biz in changi, surely i will do my banking with a branch in the east, instead of.trqvelling all the way to cbd. i might even do internet banking yes all true, but i need to take USD in large amounts, I have to go CBD. I need to execute LC, CBD. I need courier BL, CBD becos the stupid charterers in CBD. Lawyers, ditto CBD. Insurance people, CBD. Brokers, CBD. Surveyors, CBD. all these other services I need are all in the CBD. I'm really all for decentralising.. but these guys just insist to be in CBD.. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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