How GRC should have worked

[Vid]

GRC is a stoopid political loophole to send undeserved candidates into Parliament.

 

Here is my take on what GRC should work.

 

All GRCs should be dissolved before election. Each candidate should then be in charge of an area like an SMC. After election, whether PAP or Opp or mixed parties, they will form the new GRC to serve the residents in their areas. If the MP is capable, he will then go on to hold a portfolio.

 

For those who say the percentage is an indication that PAP will wake up from their sleep... My advise is YOU are the one who should WAKE UP. A loss is a loss. Just like football. Whether you lose by 1-0 or 5-0, it is still a loss. GY was the only one who acknowledged that a change is needed and now he is gone. None of the others think a change was needed. You think MBT, WKS think the same?

 

They will import more FT/FW and give more of them citizenships to boost their chances in the next GE. Now it is 1/3 population of foreigners. Very soon, it will be 1/2. And of the other 1/2, many will be new citizens. We are screwed yet again.

 

Just my 2cents.

[Celicar]

  On 5/8/2011 at 3:21 AM, Vid said:

GRC is a stoopid political loophole to send undeserved candidates into Parliament.

 

Here is my take on what GRC should work.

 

All GRCs should be dissolved before election. Each candidate should then be in charge of an area like an SMC. After election, whether PAP or Opp or mixed parties, they will form the new GRC to serve the residents in their areas. If the MP is capable, he will then go on to hold a portfolio.

 

For those who say the percentage is an indication that PAP will wake up from their sleep... My advise is YOU are the one who should WAKE UP. A loss is a loss. Just like football. Whether you lose by 1-0 or 5-0, it is still a loss. GY was the only one who acknowledged that a change is needed and now he is gone. None of the others think a change was needed. You think MBT, WKS think the same?

 

They will import more FT/FW and give more of them citizenships to boost their chances in the next GE. Now it is 1/3 population of foreigners. Very soon, it will be 1/2. And of the other 1/2, many will be new citizens. We are screwed yet again.

 

Just my 2cents.

I personally believe the GRC system has its merits, but the system has been abused.

 

I believe in its usefulness in ensuring minority representation. However, I don't see why 4 or 5 Chinese candidates have to be attached to that minority. Say like this time round, there are 15 GRCs. That means we want minimum 15 minority MPs. So let's have say 15 GRCs where you vote for 2-person teams (i.e 15 GRCs of 2 candidates each, 1 of whom must be a minority candidate). Then the rest all SMCs.

[Park88]

from this election

these are my thoughts

 

i am not pro-PAP or pro-opposition

but i am against policies that

shaft disadvantage policies down our throat

 

eg.

1. ministers convincing the population to convert from pension to CPF but they themselves including high ranking civil servants are the only ones with PENSION scheme

 

 

AS for Singaporeans

the general observations is

basically

 

we singaporeans are plain selfish - opposition for your region but not mine

we singaporeans are plain hypocrites - rally attendances versus votes

we singaporeans (those who are rich) cares only for themselves - Holland GRC - the differences in vote count is huge

we singaporeans are daft - choosing TPL versus George Yeo, wanting more of the good things the MBT, WKS and VB are dishing out

we singaporeans seek accountability but vote MBT, WKS and VB with a good percentage of votes as oppose to the opposition

we singaporeans act as if we care, yet we are telling our ministers, VB, it is ok, to spend money on YOG but keep on screwing our poor and let them rot

we singaporeans talk like we care for our citizens safety, but we tell WKS, go on keep getting your bonus, dont worry, another escape is another honest mistake

we singaporeans complains about high cost of living, we are telling MBT, go on screw us more

 

 

why why why why

the small group of singaporeans that have sacrificed so much so to fight for those who kpkb and are not willing do anything for themselves

are being screwed by the same group of people

 

 

[Leo72]

  On 5/8/2011 at 3:42 AM, Park88 said:

from this election

these are my thoughts

 

i am not pro-PAP or pro-opposition

but i am against policies that

shaft disadvantage policies down our throat

 

eg.

1. ministers convincing the population to convert from pension to CPF but they themselves including high ranking civil servants are the only ones with PENSION scheme

 

 

AS for Singaporeans

the general observations is

basically

 

we singaporeans are plain selfish - opposition for your region but not mine

we singaporeans are plain hypocrites - rally attendances versus votes

we singaporeans (those who are rich) cares only for themselves - Holland GRC - the differences in vote count is huge

we singaporeans are daft - choosing TPL versus George Yeo, wanting more of the good things the MBT, WKS and VB are dishing out

we singaporeans seek accountability but vote MBT, WKS and VB with a good percentage of votes as oppose to the opposition

we singaporeans act as if we care, yet we are telling our ministers, VB, it is ok, to spend money on YOG but keep on screwing our poor and let them rot

we singaporeans talk like we care for our citizens safety, but we tell WKS, go on keep getting your bonus, dont worry, another escape is another honest mistake

we singaporeans complains about high cost of living, we are telling MBT, go on screw us more

 

 

why why why why

the small group of singaporeans that have sacrificed so much so to fight for those who kpkb and are not willing do anything for themselves

are being screwed by the same group of people

 

cool down, what's done cannot be undo. The 40% who vote for alt. party will also need to bite the bullet and bear it for another 5 years hoping that things will change for the better.

 

The coming 5 years, Singapore will see whether the PM meant what he say. 5 years is not short neither is long. Hopefully the GRCs / SMC won't be redraw again at the last minutes. If want to redraw, redraw it within one year of the current GE. This will be a good start of a level playing field.

 

Maybe starting another Facebook or twitter or online petition for keeping the GRCs / SMCs will be a good start to test test water. This one will be a logical petition than the rest.

[Vid]

  On 5/8/2011 at 3:27 AM, Celicar said:

I personally believe the GRC system has its merits, but the system has been abused.

 

I believe in its usefulness in ensuring minority representation. However, I don't see why 4 or 5 Chinese candidates have to be attached to that minority. Say like this time round, there are 15 GRCs. That means we want minimum 15 minority MPs. So let's have say 15 GRCs where you vote for 2-person teams (i.e 15 GRCs of 2 candidates each, 1 of whom must be a minority candidate). Then the rest all SMCs.

 

The representation by minority is not a strong reason for the GRC. If you want minority, then my suggestion can do it too. If say, a Malay is in that SMC, then the Opp will have to field a Malay too. After election then group those pple together to form the GRC. The result is the same.

 

Whether SMC or GRC, their purpose is to serve the residents in their areas. I am sure whoever wins will serve their people well. It is policies in Parliament that really matters.

[Joseph22]

 

  On 5/8/2011 at 3:42 AM, Park88 said:

from this election

these are my thoughts

 

i am not pro-PAP or pro-opposition

but i am against policies that

shaft disadvantage policies down our throat

 

eg.

1. ministers convincing the population to convert from pension to CPF but they themselves including high ranking civil servants are the only ones with PENSION scheme

 

 

AS for Singaporeans

the general observations is

basically

 

we singaporeans are plain selfish - opposition for your region but not mine

we singaporeans are plain hypocrites - rally attendances versus votes

we singaporeans (those who are rich) cares only for themselves - Holland GRC - the differences in vote count is huge

we singaporeans are daft - choosing TPL versus George Yeo, wanting more of the good things the MBT, WKS and VB are dishing out

we singaporeans seek accountability but vote MBT, WKS and VB with a good percentage of votes as oppose to the opposition

we singaporeans act as if we care, yet we are telling our ministers, VB, it is ok, to spend money on YOG but keep on screwing our poor and let them rot

we singaporeans talk like we care for our citizens safety, but we tell WKS, go on keep getting your bonus, dont worry, another escape is another honest mistake

we singaporeans complains about high cost of living, we are telling MBT, go on screw us more

 

 

why why why why

the small group of singaporeans that have sacrificed so much so to fight for those who kpkb and are not willing do anything for themselves

are being screwed by the same group of people

 

[Osprey23]

  On 5/8/2011 at 3:27 AM, Celicar said:

I personally believe the GRC system has its merits, but the system has been abused.

 

Whatever merits it might have, it's ills negate it.

 

I just know we have lost a good Minister in George Yeo, because of GRC.

[Celicar]

  On 5/8/2011 at 4:01 AM, Vid said:

The representation by minority is not a strong reason for the GRC. If you want minority, then my suggestion can do it too. If say, a Malay is in that SMC, then the Opp will have to field a Malay too. After election then group those pple together to form the GRC. The result is the same.

 

Whether SMC or GRC, their purpose is to serve the residents in their areas. I am sure whoever wins will serve their people well. It is policies in Parliament that really matters.

The issue with this argument is who decides which SMC fields minority candidates? Say PAP/elections department declares that XYZ SMC should be contested by minority candidates, then opposition may cry foul and say it is unfair cos their minority has been given very little time to work the ground, etc. In short, whichever side dictates, the other side will protest.