Windwaver Turbocharged May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 I appreciate what LHL is doing by admitting their mistakes but I feel it's a little too late, why wait till the last day? It's pretty obviously a mind game taking advantage of Singaporeans' good nature. On the other hand, if this is what the opposition can do to make things right eversince the competition began, I think I rather keep lightning on their toes for 5 years than to let them relax after today. We have always been taught to see things long term isn't it? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whathefish 5th Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 Yes..actually I do accept but on 7 May he has to accept my too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 (edited) I appreciate what LHL is doing by admitting their mistakes but I feel it's a little too late, why wait till the last day? It's pretty obviously a mind game taking advantage of Singaporeans' good nature. On the other hand, if this is what the opposition can do to make things right eversince the competition began, I think I rather keep lightning on their toes for 5 years than to let them relax after today. We have always been taught to see things long term isn't it? Saying sorry is one thing and voting is yet another matter. Don't blur the 2. People are disgruntled by the prevailing policies, which have impact on all of us. So a simple sorry will not cure. Just vote for a change. This is the least that we can do . Regards, Edited May 5, 2011 by Kelpie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_kkh 1st Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 (edited) no because he mentioned in his lunch rally that MRT crowding and HDB shortage happens suddenly, he is apologizing for not been able to predict this "sudden demand"..... secondly his apologies came 2 days late than Nicole seah(for old man lee).. so to me, he agreed to disagreed on his apologies. Edited May 5, 2011 by Tom_kkh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mdfaz 2nd Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 Apology accepted but voting for what's right is different... and the ruling party has not been right these past 5 years. period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsec 2nd Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 Yes..actually I do accept but on 7 May he has to accept my too [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nsc9281 Neutral Newbie May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 Powerful Analogy of the situation we are in now: * Quote * Should I sack my current maid? I need your urgent advice about employing a maid. As a busy mother, I need someone reliable to help out at home. My maid is from Profits Agency Pte (PAP) and she has worked for me for a long time. Her mother worked for my parents and did an excellent job, so I had faith in her. For several years her performance has been very good, but recently she has become arrogant and insensitive, and is making lots of mistakes. For example: 1) She flooded my kitchen - she told me that the drain pipe has blocked (she was supposed to clear it once a month but didn't). Then she assured me that it is very rare (once in 50 yrs) and won't happen again in the near future. Guess what? It flooded again within a year! 2) She didn't close a window and my terrier dog escaped. I was so worried cos he is dangerous and could bite lots of people. After the incident, she didn't apologise and just shrugged her shoulders saying "What to do, it has happened." Fortunately my neighbor found the dog and we locked it up again. 3) Without consulting me, she has been bringing in strangers for my house's maintenance work. She says they charge low wages and keep costs down, but they eat my food, make a lot of noise and rest on my bed. I think they even tried to seduce my husband. It stopped feeling like my home, more like a cheap hotel, and I don't always want to come back at the end of the day. 4) When she first came to work for me, I instructed her to clean the different parts of the house at least once a week. But for some time she has stopped taking care of the bedrooms of PP and H; they are now dirty and messy. I asked why and she told me that the kids had been disobedient, so she was neglecting their bedrooms as a punishment (she has forgotten that she is paid to clean all the rooms). Even though my maid has worked for me for many years and I value what she has done in the past, I think she is now getting complacent. Her attitude is imperious and dismissive. She ignores my comments and basically treats my feedback as "noise". I wrote to the agency about her behavior; they assured me that they are the best agency around and all their maids are "Committed to Serve" - but I think it is just rhetoric and I don't see that in her actions. Her salary is much higher than maids in other countries, but the agency say this is to keep her honest and stop her moving to another employer. They say there is a limited supply of maids, and isn't big enough for more than one good maid agency, so I should not trust their competitors. I have to decide whether to renew my maid's 5-year employment contract. When we discussed this she said that she is now part of a team, and if I want her I must also accept her friends doing part-time work for me. One friend is very inexperienced, can't do basic tasks or explain what she intends to do. I suspect that she is actually underage. When interviewed, she only seemed interested in her days-off and visiting Universal Studios. When she couldn't answer my questions she stomped her foot and exclaimed, "I don't know what to say!" But I am still expected to pay her a high salary. Now there happens to be a few other maid agencies - Workhard Pte (WP), New Solutions Pte (NSP), Super Personnel Pte (SPP) and Star Domestica Pte (SDP) - that offered me some helpers who seem sincere, genuine and intelligent. They are keen to work, willing to assist me and have a good attitude. I know that they may take a bit of time to learn how everything works, but frankly I am inclined to give them a chance. People say that the devil you know is better than one you don't. But I feel that I can't tahan my current maid anymore. Do you think I should sack my current maid and try out a new one? * Unquote* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwaver Turbocharged May 5, 2011 Author Share May 5, 2011 Good point, thought I was the only one still wondering which camp I should support To get things straight before anybody calls me a clone :s13:. I have always been pro lightning club but for the past decade, it was really a turning point for me and my family as well. As the saying goes 'No wind, no waves, something's up', it's difficult to imagine people drawing millions, top scholars but things still get screwed up big time. Actually even before today, my vote is still pretty neutral and I decided if lightning club decide to apologize way before the last day, they still have a chance with my vote but it came too late. I just want people to know that talents are everywhere in Singapore now. You can easily get a person with GPA 3.7+/4. If I can see through mind games, so can they. I have a chat with some friends yesterday and many do appreciate the good intentions but they all felt it came too late after all the bashing. I think unless something drastic takes place, most of my friends votes are sealed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funny88 Clutched May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 VERY WELL WRITTEN! Powerful Analogy of the situation we are in now: * Quote * Should I sack my current maid? I need your urgent advice about employing a maid. As a busy mother, I need someone reliable to help out at home. My maid is from Profits Agency Pte (PAP) and she has worked for me for a long time. Her mother worked for my parents and did an excellent job, so I had faith in her. For several years her performance has been very good, but recently she has become arrogant and insensitive, and is making lots of mistakes. For example: 1) She flooded my kitchen - she told me that the drain pipe has blocked (she was supposed to clear it once a month but didn't). Then she assured me that it is very rare (once in 50 yrs) and won't happen again in the near future. Guess what? It flooded again within a year! 2) She didn't close a window and my terrier dog escaped. I was so worried cos he is dangerous and could bite lots of people. After the incident, she didn't apologise and just shrugged her shoulders saying "What to do, it has happened." Fortunately my neighbor found the dog and we locked it up again. 3) Without consulting me, she has been bringing in strangers for my house's maintenance work. She says they charge low wages and keep costs down, but they eat my food, make a lot of noise and rest on my bed. I think they even tried to seduce my husband. It stopped feeling like my home, more like a cheap hotel, and I don't always want to come back at the end of the day. 4) When she first came to work for me, I instructed her to clean the different parts of the house at least once a week. But for some time she has stopped taking care of the bedrooms of PP and H; they are now dirty and messy. I asked why and she told me that the kids had been disobedient, so she was neglecting their bedrooms as a punishment (she has forgotten that she is paid to clean all the rooms). Even though my maid has worked for me for many years and I value what she has done in the past, I think she is now getting complacent. Her attitude is imperious and dismissive. She ignores my comments and basically treats my feedback as "noise". I wrote to the agency about her behavior; they assured me that they are the best agency around and all their maids are "Committed to Serve" - but I think it is just rhetoric and I don't see that in her actions. Her salary is much higher than maids in other countries, but the agency say this is to keep her honest and stop her moving to another employer. They say there is a limited supply of maids, and isn't big enough for more than one good maid agency, so I should not trust their competitors. I have to decide whether to renew my maid's 5-year employment contract. When we discussed this she said that she is now part of a team, and if I want her I must also accept her friends doing part-time work for me. One friend is very inexperienced, can't do basic tasks or explain what she intends to do. I suspect that she is actually underage. When interviewed, she only seemed interested in her days-off and visiting Universal Studios. When she couldn't answer my questions she stomped her foot and exclaimed, "I don't know what to say!" But I am still expected to pay her a high salary. Now there happens to be a few other maid agencies - Workhard Pte (WP), New Solutions Pte (NSP), Super Personnel Pte (SPP) and Star Domestica Pte (SDP) - that offered me some helpers who seem sincere, genuine and intelligent. They are keen to work, willing to assist me and have a good attitude. I know that they may take a bit of time to learn how everything works, but frankly I am inclined to give them a chance. People say that the devil you know is better than one you don't. But I feel that I can't tahan my current maid anymore. Do you think I should sack my current maid and try out a new one? * Unquote* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsec 2nd Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 Powerful Analogy of the situation we are in now: * Quote * Should I sack my current maid? I need your urgent advice about employing a maid. As a busy mother, I need someone reliable to help out at home. My maid is from Profits Agency Pte (PAP) and she has worked for me for a long time. Her mother worked for my parents and did an excellent job, so I had faith in her. For several years her performance has been very good, but recently she has become arrogant and insensitive, and is making lots of mistakes. For example: 1) She flooded my kitchen - she told me that the drain pipe has blocked (she was supposed to clear it once a month but didn't). Then she assured me that it is very rare (once in 50 yrs) and won't happen again in the near future. Guess what? It flooded again within a year! 2) She didn't close a window and my terrier dog escaped. I was so worried cos he is dangerous and could bite lots of people. After the incident, she didn't apologise and just shrugged her shoulders saying "What to do, it has happened." Fortunately my neighbor found the dog and we locked it up again. 3) Without consulting me, she has been bringing in strangers for my house's maintenance work. She says they charge low wages and keep costs down, but they eat my food, make a lot of noise and rest on my bed. I think they even tried to seduce my husband. It stopped feeling like my home, more like a cheap hotel, and I don't always want to come back at the end of the day. 4) When she first came to work for me, I instructed her to clean the different parts of the house at least once a week. But for some time she has stopped taking care of the bedrooms of PP and H; they are now dirty and messy. I asked why and she told me that the kids had been disobedient, so she was neglecting their bedrooms as a punishment (she has forgotten that she is paid to clean all the rooms). Even though my maid has worked for me for many years and I value what she has done in the past, I think she is now getting complacent. Her attitude is imperious and dismissive. She ignores my comments and basically treats my feedback as "noise". I wrote to the agency about her behavior; they assured me that they are the best agency around and all their maids are "Committed to Serve" - but I think it is just rhetoric and I don't see that in her actions. Her salary is much higher than maids in other countries, but the agency say this is to keep her honest and stop her moving to another employer. They say there is a limited supply of maids, and isn't big enough for more than one good maid agency, so I should not trust their competitors. I have to decide whether to renew my maid's 5-year employment contract. When we discussed this she said that she is now part of a team, and if I want her I must also accept her friends doing part-time work for me. One friend is very inexperienced, can't do basic tasks or explain what she intends to do. I suspect that she is actually underage. When interviewed, she only seemed interested in her days-off and visiting Universal Studios. When she couldn't answer my questions she stomped her foot and exclaimed, "I don't know what to say!" But I am still expected to pay her a high salary. Now there happens to be a few other maid agencies - Workhard Pte (WP), New Solutions Pte (NSP), Super Personnel Pte (SPP) and Star Domestica Pte (SDP) - that offered me some helpers who seem sincere, genuine and intelligent. They are keen to work, willing to assist me and have a good attitude. I know that they may take a bit of time to learn how everything works, but frankly I am inclined to give them a chance. People say that the devil you know is better than one you don't. But I feel that I can't tahan my current maid anymore. Do you think I should sack my current maid and try out a new one? * Unquote* sack the current maid and tell the other agencies to lay down terms and promises. If the promises are attractive, why not?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bioinformatics 3rd Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 Powerful Analogy of the situation we are in now: * Quote * Should I sack my current maid? I need your urgent advice about employing a maid. As a busy mother, I need someone reliable to help out at home. My maid is from Profits Agency Pte (PAP) and she has worked for me for a long time. Her mother worked for my parents and did an excellent job, so I had faith in her. For several years her performance has been very good, but recently she has become arrogant and insensitive, and is making lots of mistakes. For example: 1) She flooded my kitchen - she told me that the drain pipe has blocked (she was supposed to clear it once a month but didn't). Then she assured me that it is very rare (once in 50 yrs) and won't happen again in the near future. Guess what? It flooded again within a year! 2) She didn't close a window and my terrier dog escaped. I was so worried cos he is dangerous and could bite lots of people. After the incident, she didn't apologise and just shrugged her shoulders saying "What to do, it has happened." Fortunately my neighbor found the dog and we locked it up again. 3) Without consulting me, she has been bringing in strangers for my house's maintenance work. She says they charge low wages and keep costs down, but they eat my food, make a lot of noise and rest on my bed. I think they even tried to seduce my husband. It stopped feeling like my home, more like a cheap hotel, and I don't always want to come back at the end of the day. 4) When she first came to work for me, I instructed her to clean the different parts of the house at least once a week. But for some time she has stopped taking care of the bedrooms of PP and H; they are now dirty and messy. I asked why and she told me that the kids had been disobedient, so she was neglecting their bedrooms as a punishment (she has forgotten that she is paid to clean all the rooms). Even though my maid has worked for me for many years and I value what she has done in the past, I think she is now getting complacent. Her attitude is imperious and dismissive. She ignores my comments and basically treats my feedback as "noise". I wrote to the agency about her behavior; they assured me that they are the best agency around and all their maids are "Committed to Serve" - but I think it is just rhetoric and I don't see that in her actions. Her salary is much higher than maids in other countries, but the agency say this is to keep her honest and stop her moving to another employer. They say there is a limited supply of maids, and isn't big enough for more than one good maid agency, so I should not trust their competitors. I have to decide whether to renew my maid's 5-year employment contract. When we discussed this she said that she is now part of a team, and if I want her I must also accept her friends doing part-time work for me. One friend is very inexperienced, can't do basic tasks or explain what she intends to do. I suspect that she is actually underage. When interviewed, she only seemed interested in her days-off and visiting Universal Studios. When she couldn't answer my questions she stomped her foot and exclaimed, "I don't know what to say!" But I am still expected to pay her a high salary. Now there happens to be a few other maid agencies - Workhard Pte (WP), New Solutions Pte (NSP), Super Personnel Pte (SPP) and Star Domestica Pte (SDP) - that offered me some helpers who seem sincere, genuine and intelligent. They are keen to work, willing to assist me and have a good attitude. I know that they may take a bit of time to learn how everything works, but frankly I am inclined to give them a chance. People say that the devil you know is better than one you don't. But I feel that I can't tahan my current maid anymore. Do you think I should sack my current maid and try out a new one? * Unquote* Exellent!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whathefish 5th Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 Please SACK her even after she cry or say sorry.... Powerful Analogy of the situation we are in now: * Quote * Should I sack my current maid? I need your urgent advice about employing a maid. As a busy mother, I need someone reliable to help out at home. My maid is from Profits Agency Pte (PAP) and she has worked for me for a long time. Her mother worked for my parents and did an excellent job, so I had faith in her. For several years her performance has been very good, but recently she has become arrogant and insensitive, and is making lots of mistakes. For example: 1) She flooded my kitchen - she told me that the drain pipe has blocked (she was supposed to clear it once a month but didn't). Then she assured me that it is very rare (once in 50 yrs) and won't happen again in the near future. Guess what? It flooded again within a year! 2) She didn't close a window and my terrier dog escaped. I was so worried cos he is dangerous and could bite lots of people. After the incident, she didn't apologise and just shrugged her shoulders saying "What to do, it has happened." Fortunately my neighbor found the dog and we locked it up again. 3) Without consulting me, she has been bringing in strangers for my house's maintenance work. She says they charge low wages and keep costs down, but they eat my food, make a lot of noise and rest on my bed. I think they even tried to seduce my husband. It stopped feeling like my home, more like a cheap hotel, and I don't always want to come back at the end of the day. 4) When she first came to work for me, I instructed her to clean the different parts of the house at least once a week. But for some time she has stopped taking care of the bedrooms of PP and H; they are now dirty and messy. I asked why and she told me that the kids had been disobedient, so she was neglecting their bedrooms as a punishment (she has forgotten that she is paid to clean all the rooms). Even though my maid has worked for me for many years and I value what she has done in the past, I think she is now getting complacent. Her attitude is imperious and dismissive. She ignores my comments and basically treats my feedback as "noise". I wrote to the agency about her behavior; they assured me that they are the best agency around and all their maids are "Committed to Serve" - but I think it is just rhetoric and I don't see that in her actions. Her salary is much higher than maids in other countries, but the agency say this is to keep her honest and stop her moving to another employer. They say there is a limited supply of maids, and isn't big enough for more than one good maid agency, so I should not trust their competitors. I have to decide whether to renew my maid's 5-year employment contract. When we discussed this she said that she is now part of a team, and if I want her I must also accept her friends doing part-time work for me. One friend is very inexperienced, can't do basic tasks or explain what she intends to do. I suspect that she is actually underage. When interviewed, she only seemed interested in her days-off and visiting Universal Studios. When she couldn't answer my questions she stomped her foot and exclaimed, "I don't know what to say!" But I am still expected to pay her a high salary. Now there happens to be a few other maid agencies - Workhard Pte (WP), New Solutions Pte (NSP), Super Personnel Pte (SPP) and Star Domestica Pte (SDP) - that offered me some helpers who seem sincere, genuine and intelligent. They are keen to work, willing to assist me and have a good attitude. I know that they may take a bit of time to learn how everything works, but frankly I am inclined to give them a chance. People say that the devil you know is better than one you don't. But I feel that I can't tahan my current maid anymore. Do you think I should sack my current maid and try out a new one? * Unquote* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedream 3rd Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 I think it was WP's Pritam Singh who said it well: they can say sorry, but will they do anything about it? One thing has proven true: the opposition can really make PAP wake up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwaver Turbocharged May 5, 2011 Author Share May 5, 2011 Many years of bashing in the private sector also let me understood how people fight for survival. In reality, just saying 'I'm sorry' doesn't give you a job. Many will have to agree with me on this as my friends around me all felt it. It's not about just getting a job, it's about how to keep it when people play mind games, try to get you off the ladder using all sorts of methods. This is the part which I feel our current leaders lost touch with. All they have touched is just the surface . Many a times, when my staff makes a mistake, I take up the blame because I feel part of the responsibility is mine for not monitoring the performance carefully. Nevertheless, in my entire career, I only have to fire 1 person once due to really bad performance. Dear leaders, although I am not a local scholar, a lot of my friends are and even that is not enough these days. Thus, it really stuns me to see scholars being treated like GOLD in statutory boards. To get it straight, scholars are not GOLD and they are already found everywhere in the private sector. I really hope our leaders can understand the dire situation on the ground. It's not as simple as retraining and asking people to lower their expectations; the competition on the ground has grown much fiercer than this. Coupled with stagnant salary, it's a deadly combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gendut 2nd Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 I appreciate what LHL is doing by admitting their mistakes but I feel it's a little too late, why wait till the last day? It's pretty obviously a mind game taking advantage of Singaporeans' good nature. On the other hand, if this is what the opposition can do to make things right eversince the competition began, I think I rather keep lightning on their toes for 5 years than to let them relax after today. We have always been taught to see things long term isn't it? Did his apology came with a conditional 'IF'? Means 'if his govt did make a mistake' then he apologise. But until today still no corrective actions taken. WKS still around. MBT still around. KBW still around. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twnll 1st Gear May 5, 2011 Share May 5, 2011 Did his apology came with a conditional 'IF'? Means 'if his govt did make a mistake' then he apologise. But until today still no corrective actions taken. WKS still around. MBT still around. KBW still around. Sorry. You don't really expect anything out of it, do you. The whole bunch of cronies will still go on merry making after May 7 closes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwaver Turbocharged May 5, 2011 Author Share May 5, 2011 I think it was WP's Pritam Singh who said it well: they can say sorry, but will they do anything about it? One thing has proven true: the opposition can really make PAP wake up! , I guess others felt it too ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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