Porker Turbocharged March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 (edited) But i suppose this is an age old debate that will see no end and that million dollar ministar salaries remain UNIQUELY SINGAPOREAN. I was told this was to prevent corruption. So that can only mean the other political leaders in other civilised countries who are willing to accept 10% of the salaries of our million dollar ministars must also all be corrupt. You're stating something with a flaw In logic as is the original quote. A low salary doesn't necessarily mean corruption and vice versa. The key is integrity has been monetized and that is the real tragedy. Edited March 24, 2015 by Porker ↡ Advertisement 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 so now its have become ppl are attract to join the public sector because it offer a salary that can make in 1 month, = to wat a normal singaporean cannot even make in a life time? a very good attraction to join the public sector indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neko 2nd Gear March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Agreed although there is no way to know what proportion of his current salary is due to his political contacts and what proportion is due to his competencies but that wasn't the question I was replying to. The question was as follows: While we would never know the exact proportion due to his political contacts, my take is it is a major component. Remember he was the Foreign Affairs minister. His contacts with other countries, especially their diplomats and government officials would open many doors for his current company. His experience in international diplomacy is also invaluable in negotiations. Compare this with say, the Home Affairs minister or Social & Family Development minister, I doubt they can find such openings in the private sector, much less command such high salary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldbug 6th Gear March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 i very happy pay grade a money to anyone who can give me grade a result Post GE 2011, ministers took 30% pay cut liao, you must allow 30% more lapses in your expectations to be fair to ministers hokay.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 People will pay ex politicians because of the contacts they have and doors they can open. The right question is, how much can George earn if he wasn't an ex minister? Would his current employers even entertain him? He didn't become a minister because he was worth millions. He's worth millions BECAUSE he is an EX minister. The goal post had been shifted. If there were many, the Govt would have related it to justify their salaries. I think the fact only George made any headway says a lot already. We need to know how many ex-minister left the parliament and still continue working first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 People don't want to join Mafia. But if you offer them a million dollars. . They might. Question. You offer million dollars to overcome people's financial needs and talent? Or you offer million dollars to overcome people's reluctance to join Mafia? Is money and talent really the barrier? There are good man a plenty, who refuse to serve the pap and their vision. Just like if a nasty customer comes to you, you quote a ridiculous price to justify not wanting to do business with them. Honestly. How many actually earned million dollar salaries before joining politics ?? Most of those who hold high office are scholars who went into the civil sector right after NS or uni. So, no, I would guess 90% would not be earning close to millions before joining politics since they are already in civil service at a young age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 The goal post had been shifted. We need to know how many ex-minister left the parliament and still continue working first. Not fair to say Playtime shifted goal posts la. The initial question was posed by Nightwind and not him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Not fair to say Playtime shifted goal posts la. The initial question was posed by Nightwind and not him. Not fair to the poster who ply devil advocate mah. He found liao then say another criteria. 😂😂 Nevermind me.. I am trolling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltplussport Turbocharged March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Wonder how credible is it for mcfers to grade the ministers that we have. I only know my teachers, superiors or peers can grade me, and this people are usually better than me if not equal. If you think you are that good, go join politic instead of kpkb here. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Wonder how credible is it for mcfers to grade the ministers that we have. I only know my teachers, superiors or peers can grade me, and this people are usually better than me if not equal. If you think you are that good, go join politic instead of kpkb here. What you say is not logical at all. We are a democratic country and we all have the right to "grade" these ministers who work for us. The basis of our political system is that each of us has one vote. Further, why do we need to be better than someone in order to grade them? When I eat my chicken rice, I can tell whether the food is good or bad without necessarily being a better cook than the hawker. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 What you say is not logical at all. We are a democratic country and we all have the right to "grade" these ministers who work for us. The basis of our political system is that each of us has one vote. Further, why do we need to be better than someone in order to grade them? When I eat my chicken rice, I can tell whether the food is good or bad without necessarily being a better cook than the hawker. no, according to some ppl logic, u have to be able to cook a better chicken rice before u want to make comment. if not carry on to pay 10 buks per plate, and keep quiet and eat it even though it SUCKS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltplussport Turbocharged March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 What you say is not logical at all. We are a democratic country and we all have the right to "grade" these ministers who work for us. The basis of our political system is that each of us has one vote. Further, why do we need to be better than someone in order to grade them? When I eat my chicken rice, I can tell whether the food is good or bad without necessarily being a better cook than the hawker. Oh yeah, what am I thinking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Oh yeah, what am I thinking? let us put aside our differences and bring out the excellence in ourselves, our everyday role focus on the funeral after that then we fight again 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acemundo Supercharged March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 What you say is not logical at all. We are a democratic country and we all have the right to "grade" these ministers who work for us. The basis of our political system is that each of us has one vote. Further, why do we need to be better than someone in order to grade them? When I eat my chicken rice, I can tell whether the food is good or bad without necessarily being a better cook than the hawker. hehe very appropriate analogy using simple understanding of supplier and customer relationship in the chicken rice stall. can be extended to the political officer holder who is the supplier and the stakeholders are us who are the customers. even if the customers are not fully understanding the difficulties faced by the suppliers, it doesn't run away from the fact that the suppliers failed to meet the very objective of their existence which is to deliver satisfactory product or services to their customers. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingenius Turbocharged March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 One policy that I judge to be poorly conceived is the latest 40 percent loan policy. It is meant to discourage car ownership for those who cannot afford the down payment. Although it achieves this objective, but it creates another set of problem for a large group of people. Those who cannot afford the hefty down payment will then have to turn to buy used car, and because of this, the used car dealers jack up the price of used car, and the depreciation of used car is as high or higher than new car, even though the value is lower. thwre are people who cannot hefty down payment but they also need a car. This side effect only benefit the used car dealer as they can hold the used car buyers ransom. If you can't afford new car then you have no choice but to buy used car even at same high depreciation. See this type of policy ? Solve one problem but create another bigger problem for the people. Who suffer ? The people. Don't ask me what is the solution, ask the million dollar salaried ministers. They should come up with something much more creative than this half baked policy. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 in before full cash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuelsaver Supercharged March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Ok I pay full cash. Who's w me? Full cash for tomica cars 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff69 Hypersonic March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 (edited) I bring this to car dealer and say pay full cash as this is what I have left after kana squeezed dry by white snakes. Oil prices goes down, everyone here pay higher prices Edited March 24, 2015 by Staff69 ↡ Advertisement 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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