Let's Lobby for Taxi COE

[Tayspiderx]

http://www.todayonline.com/Cars/EDC110415-...-out-of-the-bag

 

"...of the Cat A vehicles registered in January and June, approximately one in three has been a taxi. In all of 2010, the figure was more like one in five, and in 2009 it was closer to one in 12."

 

How come the dealers lobby without the support of other road users. In view of coming elections, its about time to see changes to our flawed COE system .

[Good-Carbuyer]

  On 4/15/2011 at 12:05 AM, Tayspiderx said:

http://www.todayonline.com/Cars/EDC110415-...-out-of-the-bag

 

"...of the Cat A vehicles registered in January and June, approximately one in three has been a taxi. In all of 2010, the figure was more like one in five, and in 2009 it was closer to one in 12."

 

How come the dealers lobby without the support of other road users. In view of coming elections, its about time to see changes to our flawed COE system .

Mercy-mercy. You pro-PAP kindly do not introduce more inflation ideas...

[Watwheels]

Obviously the dealers are fighting each other to make up their sales number. It's their ricebowl, of course they come up with funny ideas to deal with it. But buyers have more options, why must buyers join in the fiasco?

[Mllcg]

actually, should go ahead with it. cat A can actually be lower. put a seperate group for taxi and they will fight it out with each other to the point of a 6 digit COE.

[Tayspiderx]

How would separating Taxi bids create inflation? do enlighten.

[Mustank]

while you at it, pls also lobby for bus coe so that my cat c can be lowered [laugh]

[Joseph22]

  On 4/15/2011 at 12:31 AM, Mustank said:

while you at it, pls also lobby for bus coe so that my cat c can be lowered [laugh]

next we will be lobbing for OPC COE liao

[Watwheels]

  On 4/15/2011 at 12:26 AM, Mllcg said:

actually, should go ahead with it. cat A can actually be lower. put a seperate group for taxi and they will fight it out with each other to the point of a 6 digit COE.

And dan rental of taxis go up, taxi fares increase, nobody take taxi, taxi driver becomes unemployed....

 

Ppl tend to forget the number of cars de-registered is still low plus quota cut, coe prices will remain high for some time.

[Tayspiderx]

True, then how about car owners who wish to extend COE. Buying COE car may be an option but its no long term solution.

 

It would also be pity to see more dealers folding in cost they cant afford the tackle with inflation cost. Mitsubishi, Mazda, and Subaru had only seen single/double digit sales in the past months, it would truly be sad to see them leave our shores.

[Civic6228]

I would assume that the overall vehicle population should remain and no additonal COE will be added for the additional Cat T COE. I would further assume that this addtional COE will be taken from the other CAT of COEs. So the numbers of CAT A, B, C and E will be reduced. Which means instead of CAT A effected by bids from Taxi coy, with the additional CAT T COE, the numbers of the COEs for all the other CAT will be effected. Will the prices of COE drop ? I dont think so ....

 

[Watwheels]

  On 4/15/2011 at 12:39 AM, Tayspiderx said:

True, then how about car owners who wish to extend COE. Buying COE car may be an option but its no long term solution.

 

It would also be pity to see more dealers folding in cost they cant afford the tackle with inflation cost. Mitsubishi, Mazda, and Subaru had only seen single/double digit sales in the past months, it would truly be sad to see them leave our shores.

It's a situation whereby dealers & buyers have to deal with. So buyers will have to come up with short term solutions to ride it out. Dealers will have to be flexible in their biz strategy in order to stay alive. This is not the first time the car industry is experiencing high value coe and both dealers & buyers have had this experience before. Only new car buyers and first time buyers kpkb cos they cannot adapt to the change.

[Celicar]

  On 4/15/2011 at 12:43 AM, Civic6228 said:

I would assume that the overall vehicle population should remain and no additonal COE will be added for the additional Cat T COE. I would further assume that this addtional COE will be taken from the other CAT of COEs. So the numbers of CAT A, B, C and E will be reduced. Which means instead of CAT A effected by bids from Taxi coy, with the additional CAT T COE, the numbers of the COEs for all the other CAT will be effected. Will the prices of COE drop ? I dont think so ....

 

My thoughts exactly. It's a fixed number of cars on the road, however you divide/allocate. One more Cat means less for the other car Cats.

[Tayspiderx]

  On 4/15/2011 at 12:37 AM, Watwheels said:

And dan rental of taxis go up, taxi fares increase, nobody take taxi, taxi driver becomes unemployed....

 

Ppl tend to forget the number of cars de-registered is still low plus quota cut, coe prices will remain high for some time.

 

Dun worry Taxi company aint that stupid to fight till 6 digit coe. Taxi company got budget of 45k to bid for their hirer, there's no need to worry on taxi fare increase.

 

Its a vicious cycle and it begins with high COE thus leading to people hold on to their car longer and hence less people de reg. It not all about lowering COE price but to also create a better incentive package to de-reg car.

[Watwheels]

Haha...I would like the same thing too.....but the whole car ownership thingy is to discourage ppl to own car in the first place and take public transport. So you can forget about the incentive thingy, you can only dream about it.

Edited April 15, 2011 by Watwheels

[Civic6228]

  On 4/15/2011 at 12:53 AM, Tayspiderx said:

Dun worry Taxi company aint that stupid to fight till 6 digit coe. Taxi company got budget of 45k to bid for their hirer, there's no need to worry on taxi fare increase.

 

Its a vicious cycle and it begins with high COE thus leading to people hold on to their car longer and hence less people de reg. It not all about lowering COE price but to also create a better incentive package to de-reg car.

 

In that case, likely there were no successfully bids from Taxi companies in Dec 2010 as COE for both exercises were above 45k. Unlikely right ? no doubt there is just slightly above the 45k that you have mentioned but it it possible. If Taxi coys needs to replace their taxi, they would have to bid ...

 

To a certain extend, I would rather Taxi get the COE as they are meant for used by the public and all of us will benefit from it. An individual person buys the COE for his new car is for use for himself and a few others.

 

I felt that the authority should cut the no. of COE to make up for the incorrect projection in Y2005 to Y2008. Frankly, the authority did not dare to ..... for the most obvious reason. There should not have a 1.5% growth, there should be a negative 3% till the authority has solve the issue on parking space, amount of roads, congestion etc etc. The ERP does not seems to work to me as we are still having congestion. The congestion is mainly caused by the population and not the usage. I would think the more important issue is to look into improving the public transport in Singapore and no worry about cost of COE.

 

The population grew form 3.5 M to 4.0 M to 4.5 M to 5.0 M but are our transport systems (including the roads) able to cope with the increased population. Forget about 6.0M when we are not even coping with 5.0 M people in the island.

Edited April 15, 2011 by Civic6228

[Good-Carbuyer]

  On 4/15/2011 at 12:24 AM, Watwheels said:

Obviously the dealers are fighting each other to make up their sales number. It's their ricebowl, of course they come up with funny ideas to deal with it. But buyers have more options, why must buyers join in the fiasco?

Do you believe abundance of $1/- Cat A COE available if taxis not inclusive?

[Good-Carbuyer]

  On 4/15/2011 at 12:27 AM, Tayspiderx said:

How would separating Taxi bids create inflation? do enlighten.

Do you believe the consumers pay for everything?

If yes, the better solution is to have COE-free taxis to minimise inflation?

[Proton_neutron]

  On 4/15/2011 at 2:00 AM, Good-Carbuyer said:

Do you believe the consumers pay for everything?

If yes, the better solution is to have COE-free taxis to minimise inflation?

 

 

Cannot have free-COE's for taxis. Liddat, everybody register a taxi company and register their cars as taxis right?

 

Also cannot give out limited licenses. Like that taxi companies will question how you allocate the licenses.

 

The only fair thing is to let the cab companies bid for their own COE's for their own fleet.

 

Then again,

 

it's those bloody premium brands launching the 1.4T/ 1.6T cars that are also contributing to the rise in COE prices, solely because they have more profit margins per car they sell to bid higher COE's.