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Hypersonic

Because of the effects. I've had to deal with opiate addicts before and know how violent they can be. I've seen the withdrawal symptoms it would be near impossible not to feel sorry for them.

 

No. the mandatory death penalty esp for drugs is definitely a necessary evil.

The drug addict also could have say "no" to drugs. Already enough education around to tell us the harmfulness of drugs, yet they chose it. This is like saying the heavy smoker (aware of the harmfulnnes of smoking) dying of lung cancer also very chiam, and do we have to hang the cigarette manufacturer or maybe those provision shop owner selling cigarette to him?

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The drug addict also could have say "no" to drugs. Already enough education around to tell us the harmfulness of drugs, yet they chose it. This is like saying the heavy smoker (aware of the harmfulnnes of smoking) dying of lung cancer also very chiam, and do we have to hang the cigarette manufacturer or maybe those provision shop owner selling cigarette to him?

 

you know you are hanging by the straw?? -_-

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Turbocharged

Flame suit on... ok ready

flame you for what [laugh][laugh]

you know that yourself that ur reasoning in that post a bit weak too wor. [rolleyes]

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Hypersonic
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flame you for what [laugh][laugh]

you know that yourself that ur reasoning in that post a bit weak too wor. [rolleyes]

Whatever, I have no sympathy for drugs addict.Being an addict is by choice and not by force. and shouldn't be portrayed as victims.

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The drug addict also could have say "no" to drugs. Already enough education around to tell us the harmfulness of drugs, yet they chose it. This is like saying the heavy smoker (aware of the harmfulnnes of smoking) dying of lung cancer also very chiam, and do we have to hang the cigarette manufacturer or maybe those provision shop owner selling cigarette to him?

 

Of course bro, but thats why consumption is also an offence. Hit both the demand and supply.

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Whatever, I have no sympathy for drugs addict.Being an addict is by choice and not by force. and shouldn't be portrayed as victims.

 

no one say they deserve our sympathy.

 

but those that make the afford to quit and really quit deserve us giving them a 2nd chance though.

 

for the smugglar, yes i agree, too bad the dont have a 2nd chance. but end of day, we cannot be too lenient on them. some where we must tighten. preferably the head of the snake. but the snake are mostly protected by their own country so we can only hit its fingers atm until their own country decided to take action.

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Of course bro, but thats why consumption is also an offence. Hit both the demand and supply.

 

thats pretty logical but wouldn't supply include the fellas who condone regimes who are "sympathetic to drug syndicates"? Very touchy if you ask me. :ph34r:

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thats pretty logical but wouldn't supply include the fellas who condone regimes who are "sympathetic to drug syndicates"? Very touchy if you ask me. :ph34r:

 

We are arent we??? at least working together with regimes who on paper are doing something about the drug trade???

 

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I support death penalty for drug traffickers.

 

BUT I oppose mandatory death penalty for drug trafficking.

 

Meaning, we must have the option of sentencing a guilty party to death, but must also have the option to decide on another measure of punishment for unique circumstances, or on compassionate grounds.

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no one say they deserve our sympathy.

 

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My reference, before you chuck in, was to Elfenstar post about feeling sorry for them. " it would be near impossible not to feel sorry for them.".. Not in general here..

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My reference, before you chuck in, was to Elfenstar post about feeling sorry for them. " it would be near impossible not to feel sorry for them.".. Not in general here..

 

oh okay.

 

my stand had always being in sympathy of their families who had to go through all those things with them.

both the smugglar and abuser.

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I support death penalty for drug traffickers.

 

BUT I oppose mandatory death penalty for drug trafficking.

 

Meaning, we must have the option of sentencing a guilty party to death, but must also have the option to decide on another measure of punishment for unique circumstances, or on compassionate grounds.

 

Yes, oppose the mandatory part.

 

Also question the impartiality of the president clemency. Which only becoz of yong Vui Kong case we now know the decision in with the cabinets. And the law minister in one of them, who have prejudge Vui Kong even before hearing his clemency plea. I'm very uncomfortable with this where life and death of a person can lies in the decsion of people who are not trained in law.

 

Currently below are the people in the cabinet,

http://www.cabinet.gov.sg/content/cabinet/appointments.html

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they should legalize opium,heroin.these are all drugs and they can rake in billions of revenue depending on the taxation.

its party time!

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Support Workers' Party, if we think we should abolish the mandatory portion of capital punishment.

 

This is a portion of their Manifesto 2011

 

reference, http://wp.sg/manifesto/key-highlights/

Justice Law and Order

Mandatory sentences for capital offences should be removed as they take away the discretion of the judge to adjust a sentence to suit the individual case circumstances. Parliament can set limits on the degree of discretion, depending on the offence.

For capital cases, the trial should be conducted by a tribunal of two judges whose decision to impose the death sentence must be unanimous. On appeal, the death sentence should be upheld only if it is confirmed unanimously by all three judges in the Court of Appeal. For Ah How's case, one of the 3 appeal judges was not convinced that the prosecutor made his case. There are some questions not unanswered, and yet he was sent ot the gallow. Want to sent someone to death, I feel we have to be 101% sure this is the guy

Adequate resources should be allocated to the Home Team to fight crime. The government should continue to monitor and moderate the workload demands in terms of population growth, new crime concerns and events security, to ensure that the community is not adversely affected.

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Turbocharged

Set up an international team of crack special forces like Rainbow 6 [cool]

 

 

haaa how you know they dont already have... [:p]

 

Anyway, you play too much R6... come join the gang to play BC2 lar... [laugh]

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Turbocharged

Support Workers' Party, if we think we should abolish the mandatory portion of capital punishment.

 

This is a portion of their Manifesto 2011

 

reference, http://wp.sg/manifesto/key-highlights/

Justice Law and Order

Mandatory sentences for capital offences should be removed as they take away the discretion of the judge to adjust a sentence to suit the individual case circumstances. Parliament can set limits on the degree of discretion, depending on the offence.

For capital cases, the trial should be conducted by a tribunal of two judges whose decision to impose the death sentence must be unanimous. On appeal, the death sentence should be upheld only if it is confirmed unanimously by all three judges in the Court of Appeal. For Ah How's case, one of the 3 appeal judges was not convinced that the prosecutor made his case. There are some questions not unanswered, and yet he was sent ot the gallow. Want to sent someone to death, I feel we have to be 101% sure this is the guy

Adequate resources should be allocated to the Home Team to fight crime. The government should continue to monitor and moderate the workload demands in terms of population growth, new crime concerns and events security, to ensure that the community is not adversely affected.

 

Politics aside..... ya this Ah How case is sad.... agree that during appeal..... must be 100% agreement from the 3 judges....... else.... put him in jail and till the DPP file anohter appeal to hang him.... get another 3 judges to do that.... if 2nd time still not 100%... then appeal is final and he will be sentence to life without parole..... if found guilty... then arse luck....

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TOC just announce on their FB page that Yong's death penalty has been commuted to life sentence. Haven't got any wind of this on MSM though.

 

Media Release

YONG VUI KONG WILL LIVE

Court lifts death sentence; imposes life sentence in drug trafficking case

SINGAPORE, 14 November 2013 >>>>> This morning, the High Court of Singapore has lifted the death sentence imposed on 24 year-old Malaysian man, Mr Yong Vui Kong, and ordered instead a sentence of life in prison and judicial caning. This resentencing is the culmination of 4 years of legal challenges and public activism urging the Singapore government to spare Yong’s life, after he was convicted of drug trafficking at the age of 19 and the mandatory death penalty was imposed.

Human rights lawyer, Mr M Ravi, has acted as Yong Vui Kong’s counsel pro bono since 2009. Following the Court’s decision today, Mr Ravi’s office has released the following statement:

This is the happiest day of my client’s life. He feels intense gratitude towards all those who have worked so hard to save him from being executed.

First and foremost, Mr Yong wishes to thank all those members of the public in Singapore, Malaysia and around the world who have supported his case and have lobbied, petitioned and pleaded for his life to be spared. He would like to thank anti-death penalty activists “We Believe in Second Chances”, the Singapore Anti-Death Penalty Campaign [sADPC], the Anti-Death Penalty Asian Network [ADPAN], Amnesty International and the legal practioners around the world, for their commitment and dedication to the work of saving his life and those of others facing capital punishment.

Yong wishes to thank his family who have stood so firmly by him throughout these heart-wrenching years and who have made great sacrifices in their own lives to ensure that he has not faced his challenges alone.

Yong has seen the error of his ways and has repented. He is happy to have his life back again.

Reconsidering Capital Punishment

This is a day on which as Singaporeans we should reflect upon our love affair with the death penalty. Public opinion polls suggest a majority of people favour killing people who have committed drug offences. Are we really a society that is modern, educated and civilized? A society that does not respect life will never be a truly free or happy society.

Today, however, may mark a turning point in which we can learn that we will not lose our well-ordered life-style as a result of allowing a drug courier to continue to live; that the entire structure of our metropolis will not collapse because a drug offence is not met with a killing; and that a mature society is one that can tolerate within its boundaries breach of the law without invoking the response of state execution.

Judicial Caning

The tears of joy will be increased by the tears of pain with the Court’s imposition of Judicial Caning, which is itself a barbaric relic of the Middle Ages. It tears the flesh and leaves indelible wounds, both physical and psychological. To offer someone a choice between being put to death and being caned, will provoke a choice for life. That does not excuse the barbarism. Hopefully the day will soon come when we turn our backs on this barbaric practice.

Thank you.

From the desk of M Ravi

 

https://www.facebook.com/theonlinecitizen

 

 

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