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Yeah, I admire the Japs.

 

Actions speak louder than words.

 

No need to talk so much c0ck.

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if we have a PM who is suppose to be capable

why in the world do you need a SM and MM who is paid just as much as the PM

 

might as well keep MM as PM or

SM as PM

and do away with PM and either MM or SM

 

dont understand the complexity of politics

 

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even though a 14% cut (S$32million+/-) is not alot when used to deal with such a big disaster.. at least they did something decent.

 

this is what is called walk the talk.

 

our govt leh? in a recent discussion video i saw, one of the MP said instead of giving grants, assistance and help to people across the board, they prefer targeted assistance.

 

opposition refuted by asking, how come the ministers get pay rise? do they need the assistance? (or something like that) :D

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Quoted from the news:

 

"Japan's ruling party agreed with the opposition on Monday for members of parliament"

 

See guy.... In the first place, for a healthy ruling environment, a opposition must be present.... In our garment system, anything raise by the 2 poor parties, it will just shoot down....

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Quoted from the news:

 

"Japan's ruling party agreed with the opposition on Monday for members of parliament"

 

See guy.... In the first place, for a healthy ruling environment, a opposition must be present.... In our garment system, anything raise by the 2 poor parties, it will just shoot down....

People power. They know if they disagree, the people will be angry & vote them out.

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if we have a PM who is suppose to be capable

why in the world do you need a SM and MM who is paid just as much as the PM

 

might as well keep MM as PM or

SM as PM

and do away with PM and either MM or SM

 

dont understand the complexity of politics

Greed driven complexity!! [:(]:blink: ....... On the other hand, could it be they have actually been making generous donations to charity but prefer to keep a low low profile ............ hard to believe but possible....

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even though a 14% cut (S$32million+/-) is not alot when used to deal with such a big disaster.. at least they did something decent.

 

this is what is called walk the talk.

 

our govt leh? in a recent discussion video i saw, one of the MP said instead of giving grants, assistance and help to people across the board, they prefer targeted assistance.

 

opposition refuted by asking, how come the ministers get pay rise? do they need the assistance? (or something like that) :D

they believe in 2 things: self-help and targeted assistance

 

so they walk their talk: help themselves to pay rise on top of the already high salaries, and target themselves to assistance in big pay package

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if we have a PM who is suppose to be capable

why in the world do you need a SM and MM who is paid just as much as the PM

 

might as well keep MM as PM or

SM as PM

and do away with PM and either MM or SM

 

dont understand the complexity of politics

Good valid point!!

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if we have a PM who is suppose to be capable

why in the world do you need a SM and MM who is paid just as much as the PM

 

might as well keep MM as PM or

SM as PM

and do away with PM and either MM or SM

 

dont understand the complexity of politics

 

I don't mind them so much, if they take a symbolic pay or do it out of goodwill. After all, didn't they already on their pension every month which is 2/3 of their last drawn pay (last I checked) already?

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they believe in 2 things: self-help and targeted assistance

 

so they walk their talk: help themselves to pay rise on top of the already high salaries, and target themselves to assistance in big pay package

 

for awhile, i thought you were gg to refute me. but no, anyway, good point.

 

this is the video [gossip]

 

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I don't mind them so much, if they take a symbolic pay or do it out of goodwill. After all, didn't they already on their pension every month which is 2/3 of their last drawn pay (last I checked) already?

 

bro, just look at their "bonus system" which is reflected by country's economy through GDP.

 

30 months bonus is a joke. it becomes even more disturbingly irritating when you realise their monthly pay is so high.

 

efficiency wage model is a good way to attract, sustain and retain talents.. but how much is too much? they are the ones who make the rule, its difficult to refute <_<

 

im fine if people demand high pay if they can deliver the goods.. even if its opposition.

 

but at the moment, our political system is a monopoly. no competition from opposition. what democracy or free market system we dare speak of? :D

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Quoted from the news:

 

"Japan's ruling party agreed with the opposition on Monday for members of parliament"

 

See guy.... In the first place, for a healthy ruling environment, a opposition must be present.... In our garment system, anything raise by the 2 poor parties, it will just shoot down....

 

 

to be fair both the japanese gov and opposition MPs are truly useless and japan has a very long and well established history of corruption in high office (every year someone gets outed)

 

 

the other fact is the pay cuts happen because they are 'expected' by the people. the MPs have no real choice.

 

id take our gov lack of coruption with our gov competance anyday over the japanese gov who are not at all respected by anyone in japan and are usually puppets for businesses and yakuza.

 

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bro, just look at their "bonus system" which is reflected by country's economy through GDP.

 

30 months bonus is a joke. it becomes even more disturbingly irritating when you realise their monthly pay is so high.

 

efficiency wage model is a good way to attract, sustain and retain talents.. but how much is too much? they are the ones who make the rule, its difficult to refute <_<

 

im fine if people demand high pay if they can deliver the goods.. even if its opposition.

 

but at the moment, our political system is a monopoly. no competition from opposition. what democracy or free market system we dare speak of? :D

 

Why can't they derive an average pay of the top 10 countries of the politican or even from the mid-tiers? Why must die die follow private sector? Follow already but only on pay structure...No need to get sack from wrong deeds? and still get 30 months bonus?

 

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