What can increase acceleration?

[coldbeer21]

just went to my workshop just now he told me most important is to have cooler air enter engine. cos cold air more dense. so he intro me his new gadget he call it intake conditioner. he tell me will super cool my air intake make my car faster. now my car really can fly. he installed the daikin aircon converter in front of my intake. sibei solid that one. i drive until v happy. then i woke up and realised it was all a dream. sigh

 

 

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I downloaded the technical spec from the website as follow

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[Ramt]

higer torque for quicker acceleration, horse power is for cruising...it's a common mistake that many based on HP for faster acceleration....

 

True that well said

[Ivan_06]

Get NCP42 manual transmission, the low end torque is damn good.

[Ake109]

 

True that well said

 

Haiz, torque and hp have a direct linear relation. You cant have one without the other.

 

It is a fallacy to say either torque over horsepower for acceleration or vice versa.

 

BUT... with proper gearing, sufficient horsepower will always get you acceleration. But even 1000NM of torque will get you nowhere if you don't have the rpms.

 

e.g. have 2 theoretical engines. Hook both up to a 100% efficient CVT (for illustration only).

 

one generates 300 hp with low say 180NM torque (don't care what rpm, you have a 100% efficient CVT). Your 1000kg car will accelerate well.

 

2nd one generates 500 NM of torque but redlines at 2k rpm. It is going to accelerate slower than the 1st example.

[Ramt]

 

Haiz, torque and hp have a direct linear relation. You cant have one without the other.

 

It is a fallacy to say either torque over horsepower for acceleration or vice versa.

 

BUT... with proper gearing, sufficient horsepower will always get you acceleration. But even 1000NM of torque will get you nowhere if you don't have the rpms.

 

e.g. have 2 theoretical engines. Hook both up to a 100% efficient CVT (for illustration only).

 

one generates 300 hp with low say 180NM torque (don't care what rpm, you have a 100% efficient CVT). Your 1000kg car will accelerate well.

 

2nd one generates 500 NM of torque but redlines at 2k rpm. It is going to accelerate slower than the 1st example.

 

Yeah thats another point, but as in for theoretical point.

 

If you compare a 1.6 ton, 200 hp 380nm tq vs 1.2 ton 220hp 200nm (Type R)

I believe the 1.6ton will be faster as Tq offsets the kerb weight

 

 

[Gitanic]

 

Yeah thats another point, but as in for theoretical point.

 

If you compare a 1.6 ton, 200 hp 380nm tq vs 1.2 ton 220hp 200nm (Type R)

I believe the 1.6ton will be faster as Tq offsets the kerb weight

 

 

It's difficult to calculate this way.

 

Just buy a Lambo or Aston definitely faster.

[Zyklon]

 

Yeah thats another point, but as in for theoretical point.

 

If you compare a 1.6 ton, 200 hp 380nm tq vs 1.2 ton 220hp 200nm (Type R)

I believe the 1.6ton will be faster as Tq offsets the kerb weight

 

 

 

 

Seriously, this is confusion by marketing at it's best.

 

It is not about the torque or power alone.

 

It is about how long you can make the power.

 

Marketing and all the layman will always tell you "wah, feel the pull of the torque".

 

This is plain bulls**t.

 

Go read some high school physics.

 

Don't believe me...then you go compare those cars that offer both diesel and petrol engine...

[Rantwb]

you need to basically to change 70% of your car parts to balance with your car performance(power).

 

my point of advise:

 

save your money from modification then buy a better car. if you dont listen , you will use alot of money to learn this sentance of wise words.

 

Quote the above because it is true........

 

With exhaust mods, ecu maps, engine management units, throttle adjusters, intake mods, spark plug change, cabling upgrade, battery optimizers, oil additives and dyno tuning, they add up to $6k+. All promises improvement of performance.

 

After modding? Wah, so excited! Bread and butter 1.5L car improves by 5-7hp.

Seems good? Then get smoked by a 2L Camry with air-con on.....

Then you ask yourself.... WTF.

[Ake109]

 

Quote the above because it is true........

 

With exhaust mods, ecu maps, engine management units, throttle adjusters, intake mods, spark plug change, cabling upgrade, battery optimizers, oil additives and dyno tuning, they add up to $6k+. All promises improvement of performance.

 

After modding? Wah, so excited! Bread and butter 1.5L car improves by 5-7hp.

Seems good? Then get smoked by a 2L Camry with air-con on.....

Then you ask yourself.... WTF.

 

Yeah, have always maintained that for Singapore, buy an old WRX (preferably those COE type) and mod is the cheapest fastest most hp for dollar method.

 

 

Seriously, this is confusion by marketing at it's best.

 

It is not about the torque or power alone.

 

It is about how long you can make the power.

 

Marketing and all the layman will always tell you "wah, feel the pull of the torque".

 

This is plain bulls**t.

 

Go read some high school physics.

 

Don't believe me...then you go compare those cars that offer both diesel and petrol engine...

 

Yeah. Or rather, how long you can _apply_ the power. With a theoretical 100% CVT, even a 100hp car with 1 NM of torque will beat an 90hp car with 999 NM of torque.

 

Of course there is no theoretical 100% CVT but my point is as long as you can apply the power, higher hp will always beat higher torque for any purpose. Because the whole idea of high torque is to ... get high hp. All those who keep quoting 'torque accelerates' really don't seem to get this.

Edited July 3, 2015 by Ake109

[ER-3682]

 

Quote the above because it is true........

 

With exhaust mods, ecu maps, engine management units, throttle adjusters, intake mods, spark plug change, cabling upgrade, battery optimizers, oil additives and dyno tuning, they add up to $6k+. All promises improvement of performance.

 

After modding? Wah, so excited! Bread and butter 1.5L car improves by 5-7hp.

Seems good? Then get smoked by a 2L Camry with air-con on.....

Then you ask yourself.... WTF.

After modified intake,7 bhp is at redline,but you torque is less...

[Ramt]

After modified intake,7 bhp is at redline,but you torque is less...

 

Modified intake will shift the powerband into the higher rev due to higher airflow but tq will increase too

[ER-3682]

 

Modified intake will shift the powerband into the higher rev due to higher airflow but tq will increase too

But S'pore road need higher torque at lower revs,due to too heavy traffic & red lights.

[chuanyan128]

 

Quote the above because it is true........

 

With exhaust mods, ecu maps, engine management units, throttle adjusters, intake mods, spark plug change, cabling upgrade, battery optimizers, oil additives and dyno tuning, they add up to $6k+. All promises improvement of performance.

 

After modding? Wah, so excited! Bread and butter 1.5L car improves by 5-7hp.

Seems good? Then get smoked by a 2L Camry with air-con on.....

Then you ask yourself.... WTF.

 

Camry can't really smoke also, only kenna smoke by many.

[Terri]

friends ...  1.6 1.8 or 2.0 is not about horse power alone.

Important figure to take note is your torque.

When you want to accelerate faster than other cars.. you need big torque.

Small torque will be just small talk... no use.. 

No matter how you push or mod is the same,

 

Here is my car compare to an Altis 2016 model.

 

226 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm

128 @ 4400 

 

Its rediculous numbers ... 

I can get max torque of more than 200 at low 3600 rpm

while Altis need to accelerate until 4400 rpm and yet only gets 128 torque. Slightly more than half of what I got.

 

lets say we both accelerate as hard as we could, so our rev would wind up at about same speed. But at a low 3600 rpm I would had already pushed out 226 on the wheels while Altis is still puff towards 4400 rpm and still havent make out more than 100 torque during the rev climb towards max torque at 4400 rpm.

 

Gear after gear.. until we reach the speed limit of the road , say 60 km/h,, assuming nobody is going to break the speed limit legally speaking I maintained 60 and Altis maintain 60.. it would be several car lengths behind mine.

 

Not bragging.. but its really hard fact.
 

[Stanfordho96]

friends ...  1.6 1.8 or 2.0 is not about horse power alone.

Important figure to take note is your torque.

When you want to accelerate faster than other cars.. you need big torque.

Small torque will be just small talk... no use.. 

No matter how you push or mod is the same,

 

Here is my car compare to an Altis 2016 model.

 

226 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm

128 @ 4400 

 

Its rediculous numbers ... 

I can get max torque of more than 200 at low 3600 rpm

while Altis need to accelerate until 4400 rpm and yet only gets 128 torque. Slightly more than half of what I got.

 

lets say we both accelerate as hard as we could, so our rev would wind up at about same speed. But at a low 3600 rpm I would had already pushed out 226 on the wheels while Altis is still puff towards 4400 rpm and still havent make out more than 100 torque during the rev climb towards max torque at 4400 rpm.

 

Gear after gear.. until we reach the speed limit of the road , say 60 km/h,, assuming nobody is going to break the speed limit legally speaking I maintained 60 and Altis maintain 60.. it would be several car lengths behind mine.

 

Not bragging.. but its really hard fact.

 

mine is 333 Nm@ 2200rpm

[Terenc3]

Ford's 1L 3 Cylinder Ecoboost.  Peak torque staring from 1400RPM.

[F355]

friends ...  1.6 1.8 or 2.0 is not about horse power alone.

Important figure to take note is your torque.

When you want to accelerate faster than other cars.. you need big torque.

Small torque will be just small talk... no use.. 

No matter how you push or mod is the same,

 

Here is my car compare to an Altis 2016 model.

 

226 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm

128 @ 4400 

 

Its rediculous numbers ... 

I can get max torque of more than 200 at low 3600 rpm

while Altis need to accelerate until 4400 rpm and yet only gets 128 torque. Slightly more than half of what I got.

 

lets say we both accelerate as hard as we could, so our rev would wind up at about same speed. But at a low 3600 rpm I would had already pushed out 226 on the wheels while Altis is still puff towards 4400 rpm and still havent make out more than 100 torque during the rev climb towards max torque at 4400 rpm.

 

Gear after gear.. until we reach the speed limit of the road , say 60 km/h,, assuming nobody is going to break the speed limit legally speaking I maintained 60 and Altis maintain 60.. it would be several car lengths behind mine.

 

Not bragging.. but its really hard fact.

 

 

Its not just the torque ; its also the powerband how the torque is delivered .

 

226 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm sounds like a 3 litre naturally aspirated petrol engine ; or maybe a 2.0 litre petrol single turbo ; and peaking at 3600 rpm is not considered in low range . Twin scroll turbos can peak at 1500rpm and turbodiesels at below 2000 rpm .

 

In terms of acceleration alone yes you can outrun a 1.6 litre NA Altis ; but the blue colour NTUC Comfort Sonata will smoke you off the traffic lights .

 

Not bragging ....but its really hard fact .

[Fcw75]

Ok, bragging start liao.

Wait a while please while I put a sock in the underwear first.