Darryn Turbocharged March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 agreed... then some story will come out about how one by one pull out and blah blah blah... it's to disorientate us too... i feel... there are some estates where it's no point contesting because majority is from the "from fishing village till modern day metropolis" generation... they is vote for papa anyways... only the newer genaration will understand that era is long over... we have grown... indeed... but to what extend and price we are paying for continued growth??? we are already far from the fishing village times... enough of that speech for crying out loud... look at elsewhere... only when unpopulated areas become populated, then infrastructure comes in... here, keep improving in everything which is not broken and throw the cost back to us... we no need trains that can fly or buses that can jack up jack down... some countires have buses which don't even have proper chassis... there will be time where whoever takes a long distance train ride to visit a friend will be known as a rich person... because only the rich can afford such basic stuff anymore... old man always say... we must look at the bigger picture... i say, the picture is so big that i think only he can see... or it's one of those pictures that must cross eyed and stare long long then can see... see already not very clear wan also... Well you do of course notice that Punggol is one of only two remaining big big GRC Wonder if it is also a co-inky-dink that it is also one of the youngest? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 What I'd like to know from a knowledgeable standpoint. What happens to the recently announced 5 year plans if the incumbent loses the election? Does that mean the plan on hold, or that the oppostion comes up with a plan? Have the funds for the five year plans been allocated or not? Even for the recent hospital announcement, if Punngol goes to the opposition, does that mean the hospital still goes ahead or is it put on hold? Announcement has already been made that it should be started within the next five years if to finish on schedule, adn that it is to benefit the citizens of Singapore. I am wondering if this will be used as a tool against the opposition. "If you don't elect us back, you won't get the hospital" which would be wrong - after all, whether the opposition wins or not, the ward are still all citizens with the same needs right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park88 1st Gear March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 election to me just another holiday why it makes no difference look at history it will always repeat zz zzz z zzZZZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jujitsuka 4th Gear March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 We will vote out the papayas once and for all!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_b20 6th Gear March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 i dont want to pay 10% gst right after elections i dont want the Satellite-GPS-Tracking-ERP-device installed in my car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear March 7, 2011 Author Share March 7, 2011 (edited) What I'd like to know from a knowledgeable standpoint. What happens to the recently announced 5 year plans if the incumbent loses the election? Does that mean the plan on hold, or that the oppostion comes up with a plan? Have the funds for the five year plans been allocated or not? Even for the recent hospital announcement, if Punngol goes to the opposition, does that mean the hospital still goes ahead or is it put on hold? Announcement has already been made that it should be started within the next five years if to finish on schedule, adn that it is to benefit the citizens of Singapore. I am wondering if this will be used as a tool against the opposition. "If you don't elect us back, you won't get the hospital" which would be wrong - after all, whether the opposition wins or not, the ward are still all citizens with the same needs right? Not very long ago, a mrt station amongst many was built along NEL. The authorities wanted to change the local station name to a colonial one which nobody knows. In addition, they deemed that the usage of this station together with the immediate one up north-east not very high & announced that these two would not be opened. Nevermind that the first station mentioned has got several schools nearby, a sprawling landed estate plus a small hdb estate next to it & last but not least a sizable industrial estate not far from it, they just announced there was no huge demand until much later when they would open it. They will, however, seriously consider opening it if the folks there support them via the imminent GE then. Well, most of the people living there, being watched over eagerly by all the parents of those kids studying in those schools, by their very own neigubours & the many working there, turned their backs on them & voted instead for their beloved oppo MP. So this was the state of affairs then.. Does this answer at least some part of your question? This story had got a happy ending as the station was opened eventually. Edited March 7, 2011 by Vulcann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Clutched March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 I had to look up this word... coinkydink... kekeke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear March 7, 2011 Author Share March 7, 2011 And they, or at least some of them, got some sense in them to retain the original station name when it was opened officially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relacklabrudder 1st Gear March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 singapore citizens be prepare for 12% gst! he will ask u to 'bite the bullet', more helps along the way by gst, erp, withdrawal age,FT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipstick Neutral Newbie March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 (edited) Based on the results of past GE's and the observation of one Mr. Li Ao, it is more than likely that the ruling party will stay in power and very few, if any, opp will be voted in. What matters is, after the GE: Will the floodgates be flung open again for FTs and FWs? Will the GST be increased? Will conservancy charges, utilities rates, road tax and all other taxes be upped? Will.......... the list goes on and on. I truly sympathise with those struggling to bring up their young children......... Edited March 7, 2011 by Dipstick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haikel 1st Gear March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 the best part our pathetic salaries will be increased to 30% in 10 years time. some lucky ones going to get 30% immediate after election ontop of the already super high pay. waky2 people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damienic 5th Gear March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 How different is this from the people who have stated they will vote for the opposition "as long as they don't put a monkey up" for election? I do not agree with statements as such too but at least this people said upfront they will vote for opposition no matter who is it and they meant it. I have observed quite a number who says they would be open minded to explore opp candidates as long as they are of sound calibre but in actual fact they wouldn't cast an eye on any opposition that is being put up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damienic 5th Gear March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 (edited) One good candidate cannot make the different, the problem with the opp parties now is they can't get a strong good team.... You have one star but no team, you think this person can go far? WP is stable and mature but yet many other want to start their own parties and that weaken the calibre. That is the problem with GRCs and my pet peeve with it. When an opposition team puts up 5 candidates for GRC contest, as long as there are 2 not so good ones among the team of 5, it will cast a bad light on them and people will hesitate to give their votes to them. But for the PAP slate in GRC, as long as a heavy weight minister is at the helm with another 1 or 2 popular MPs in there and even when the rest are rookies, they will get the vote. For opp to have any chance in a GRC, theorectically, the party has to put out its strongest team and very often it means they have to do so at the expense of the other GRC which they going to contest. If all wards are SMCs, it will be a different story. Edited March 7, 2011 by Damienic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlatio Turbocharged March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 The Opposition should NOT contest all seats! Most people want PAP in power and if a freak result is always possible if all seats are contested and people would be more careful with their votes. But if we know PAP has already won walkover, more would vote for opposition for a voice in parliament. No matter what "strategy" the Oppo come up with... contest 1 or contest all seats, result likely be the same.... just look at the number of Oppo we have... except for the like of WP, SPP.... the rest like pop up every 4 years when erection near..... no erection, go holiday first.... ..... and none of the Oppo now is like the Republican of US of A, Democratic Progressive Party of ROC, Labour Party of UK..... which have the capability of forming an alternative gov...... you dont see it here..... So without forming a gov... even got 10 or 20 Oppo got voted in.... policies good or bad stilll run...... they just need 50% to pass the bill..... just that the Park-liament now really a Park with lots of noise.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlatio Turbocharged March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 At the last election, went to one of the WP rallies in Hougang to hear. It was a boisterous & crowded affair, with people really excited and shouting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlatio Turbocharged March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 What I'd like to know from a knowledgeable standpoint. What happens to the recently announced 5 year plans if the incumbent loses the election? Does that mean the plan on hold, or that the oppostion comes up with a plan? Have the funds for the five year plans been allocated or not? Even for the recent hospital announcement, if Punngol goes to the opposition, does that mean the hospital still goes ahead or is it put on hold? Announcement has already been made that it should be started within the next five years if to finish on schedule, adn that it is to benefit the citizens of Singapore. I am wondering if this will be used as a tool against the opposition. "If you don't elect us back, you won't get the hospital" which would be wrong - after all, whether the opposition wins or not, the ward are still all citizens with the same needs right? Nah, those that they announce..... Public Amenities like hospital... take years to plan and once got the go ahead... cannot suka suka say stop....... somemore already come out from horse mouth, cannot say suddenly not enough people, not enough $$$ and blah blah blah not building...... big ticket items not likely.... but small one like a playground, lamp post, longkang upgrading they can say now TC under Oppo, go ask them for $$$ to build since you vote them in..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achtung7 Neutral Newbie March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 with no fixed election dates, movable electoral boundaries, talk too much go Onraet Rd... plus... carrots for for citizens before GE, incentives for estate upgrading when u vote them in..... how to get enough opposition to form govt ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlatio Turbocharged March 7, 2011 Share March 7, 2011 That is the problem with GRCs and my pet peeve with it. When an opposition team puts up 5 candidates for GRC contest, as long as there are 2 not so good ones among the team of 5, it will cast a bad light on them and people will hesitate to give their votes to them. But for the PAP slate in GRC, as long as a heavy weight minister is at the helm with another 1 or 2 popular MPs in there and even when the rest are rookies, they will get the vote. For opp to have any chance in a GRC, theorectically, the party has to put out its strongest team and very often it means they have to do so at the expense of the other GRC which they going to contest. If all wards are SMCs, it will be a different story. Well being a "caring" leader... they are worried about the future of SIN..... "good" candidate are hard to come by..... once they find it.... cannot risk it and put them in SMC to fight... if lost... they lost 1 potential "good" candidate that one day may become the PM...... they know the fella is good, good enough to lead SIN in the near future...... but people dont know and dont care, esp Anti MIW one... Oppo send a lizard they will also vote for it...... the future of SIN is at stake... your kiddo future is at stake, cannot play play.... serious biz....... This one is somewhat the Obbicial reason for it..... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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