Kelpie 2nd Gear January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 Hi all, I'm of the opinion that gearbox plays an important part in deciding on a car purchase, at least to me. If given a choice and the shortlisted cars are about the same price, which is the preferred gearbox that you will pick: 7 speed DSG (A) - Supposedly more fuel efficient but ponder over its long term reliability (3 years). 6 Speed CVT - lacking in response but slow and smooth? 4 Speed AT - Old but proven technology, supposedly less fuel efficient. Please advise me. Thank you very much . Regards, ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendstar Supercharged January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 depends on what u'r looking for. isn't that obvious? performance go for DSG good FC go for CVT reliability and affordability go for 4-speed auto. if u wan all, choose a manual car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caravan 5th Gear January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 What new car still uses 4AT today? Even korean cars are using 6AT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ncss Clutched January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 (edited) To be safe, choose 5/6/7 AT. 4AT a bit back dated leh... Edited January 30, 2011 by Ncss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear January 30, 2011 Author Share January 30, 2011 depends on what u'r looking for. isn't that obvious? performance go for DSG good FC go for CVT reliability and affordability go for 4-speed auto. if u wan all, choose a manual car. Not exactly you know? There are still 4 AT selling close to or almost similar to a DSG equipped car. IMHO, DSG supposedly offers better efficiency in fuel consumption and smoother gear shifiting. The downside is reliability. 6 Speed CVT is also not lean meat either. I find shifting is as quick and quieter. What do you think of the future market trend? I read from somewhere that the DSG may be discontinued soon and wonder how true. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnaugh Neutral Newbie January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 I would pick the 7 Speed DSG provided that it is this one. DQ500 http://www.volkswagenag.com/vwag/vwcorp/in..._new_dq500.html The current version has got some serious reliability issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnaugh Neutral Newbie January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 Not exactly you know? There are still 4 AT selling close to or almost similar to a DSG equipped car. IMHO, DSG supposedly offers better efficiency in fuel consumption and smoother gear shifiting. The downside is reliability. 6 Speed CVT is also not lean meat either. I find shifting is as quick and quieter. What do you think of the future market trend? I read from somewhere that the DSG may be discontinued soon and wonder how true. Regards, I do not think that the 6 speed DSG has got much issues at all. It is the 7 speed version having the problems. DSG is here to stay. It is going to be applied onto future Audi models as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear January 30, 2011 Author Share January 30, 2011 I would pick the 7 Speed DSG provided that it is this one. DQ500 http://www.volkswagenag.com/vwag/vwcorp/in..._new_dq500.html The current version has got some serious reliability issues. How do you know whether you are getting a DQ500 without the SE telling you? The SE told me the prior reliability issue was due to software, true? Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear January 30, 2011 Author Share January 30, 2011 What new car still uses 4AT today? Even korean cars are using 6AT. But not all Korean cars are using 6AT, the lower and mid tiers are still using 4 AT. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullifi3d 4th Gear January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 What new car still uses 4AT today? Even korean cars are using 6AT. Citroen C4, Citroen C5 2.0, Megane 2, Megane 3 Hatch, Ford Focus MK II (non ecoboost). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendstar Supercharged January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 Not exactly you know? There are still 4 AT selling close to or almost similar to a DSG equipped car. IMHO, DSG supposedly offers better efficiency in fuel consumption and smoother gear shifiting. The downside is reliability. 6 Speed CVT is also not lean meat either. I find shifting is as quick and quieter. What do you think of the future market trend? I read from somewhere that the DSG may be discontinued soon and wonder how true. Regards, other than using Altis vs Polo as a comparison, what others can u think of? and please use apple to apple comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear January 30, 2011 Author Share January 30, 2011 other than using Altis vs Polo as a comparison, what others can u think of? and please use apple to apple comparison. Nullifi3d just answered you. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expertz 1st Gear January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 gearbox is just 1 factor that dictates fuel consumption and performance but it isn't the only factor others such as weight of the car and dated technology play a more crucial role i think TS should consider the car as a whole instead of just a gearbox btw vw 7 speed gb isn't without problems, go vagsg and read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnaugh Neutral Newbie January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 (edited) How do you know whether you are getting a DQ500 without the SE telling you? The SE told me the prior reliability issue was due to software, true? Regards, Well you wouldn't know and I doubt the SE would know. Best is to check with their service center. As for the issues they are not simply software, it is the the mechatronic that is problematic. Sometimes it affects the clutch as well causing premature wear. That was what happened to my dad's Passat CC. Not uncommon to see the entire assembly being replaced. You can research more at VAGSG. Edited January 30, 2011 by Karnaugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangadrool Supersonic January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 Weight of a car plays an important part too. No point having 6AT when the weight of the car alone is 1,300kgs with a tiny 1.6L heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GemLeo 1st Gear January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 isnt DSG the one with some serious issues? my fren's 1 yr old Golf DSG gearbox suddenly went jerky while traveling on TPE. It's jerky like how you jump start a manual car. got tow back and got a new gearbox from volks. SE told him they have stocked up near gearbox, expecting such problems this year. last year may take one month to replace. now 2 days. CVT is cool.. but need to take care more than AT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikamura Neutral Newbie January 30, 2011 Share January 30, 2011 (edited) isnt DSG the one with some serious issues? my fren's 1 yr old Golf DSG gearbox suddenly went jerky while traveling on TPE. It's jerky like how you jump start a manual car. got tow back and got a new gearbox from volks. SE told him they have stocked up near gearbox, expecting such problems this year. last year may take one month to replace. now 2 days. CVT is cool.. but need to take care more than AT. haha saw the papers yest.. they came out with the red Golf "Rabbit" for the rabbit year. haha even coupled with a rabbit enblem beside the golf enblem on the rear! what a lol . hmm wonder will it comes with the DSG issues. Edited January 30, 2011 by Nikamura Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic January 31, 2011 Share January 31, 2011 Hi all, I'm of the opinion that gearbox plays an important part in deciding on a car purchase, at least to me. If given a choice and the shortlisted cars are about the same price, which is the preferred gearbox that you will pick: 7 speed DSG (A) - Supposedly more fuel efficient but ponder over its long term reliability (3 years). 6 Speed CVT - lacking in response but slow and smooth? 4 Speed AT - Old but proven technology, supposedly less fuel efficient. Please advise me. Thank you very much . Regards, I will choose the 4AT of the 3 although it's dated but as you said proven technology and so is the fuel efficiency. The rest is depending on the driver's right foot. Even though the first 2 boxes may have better fuel efficiency the margin is not very far apart. The first 2 boxes you will have to go back to AD to service for the peace of mind, as for the 4AT you can do it anywhere. If you are talking about cars of 1.6L NA and below cars here I think you can forget about response. In terms of savings on fuel, the first 2 boxes will be offset by their maintainence & servicing cost, on the long run the 4AT will most likely give you a more problem free and better savings of the 3. That is if you are planning to keep your car for at least 5 years. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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