Coffee lovers: You should try this place.

[Trex101]

I'm using Breville Cafe Roma entry level espresso machine. Grinder are manual burr grinder, bought 2nd hand from one of those coffee store. I also bought a thermometer for the steam milk/foam so that i don't burned the milk.

 

Oh, only make Mocha and Latte.

 

http://www.breville.com.au/products_detail.asp?prod=97

Edited December 26, 2010 by Trex101

[Shorty]

Wow...u guys r really into coffee. I don tink i'll ever buy a grinder. So next best thing is to try out the recommended shop. Mayb will try it soon.

[S7654]

Nespresso machines and full/semi-automatics espresso machines are two different things.

[Mazdaowner]

You self inform or telling me?

Nespresso machines and full/semi-automatics espresso machines are two different things.

Edited December 26, 2010 by Mazdaowner

[S7654]

Please read again your reply to previously first...

 

You are not the only coffee expert here. Want the last word, go ahead.... Thread is mostly yours anyway.

[Mazdaowner]

Your Breville is with a pressured portafilter, look inside, there should be a silicon disc below, where you put the basket into (when you remove the baste you can see the rubber/basket disc. Also, when you use the portafilter, you just add in the grinds, and don't tamper, thus your need to grind it as fine as you can for extraction. If you use a unpressurized portafilter, and TAMPER your grinds, the taste of your brew would be far better then the slightly or well, a little more burnt taste you're getting now with your very fine grind. You will see what I mean, when you remove your portafilter from the machine, and look at the puck (used coffee grinds in the portafilter) it is wet and runny. (Over and under extraction produces crappy coffee)

 

No need for a thermometer, feel the steel milk jug with your hand, and when it gets too hot to keep your fingers on the jug, it's time to shut off the wand. The thermometer for me, gets in the way of steaming good milk for latte art.

 

 

I'm using Breville Cafe Roma entry level espresso machine. Grinder are manual burr grinder, bought 2nd hand from one of those coffee store. I also bought a thermometer for the steam milk/foam so that i don't burned the milk.

 

Oh, only make Mocha and Latte.

 

http://www.breville.com.au/products_detail.asp?prod=97

 

[Mazdaowner]

I never said I was a coffee expert. But it was so kind of you to inform me so.

 

Please read again your reply to previously first...

 

You are not the only coffee expert here. Want the last word, go ahead.... Thread is mostly yours anyway.

 

[Mazdaowner]

Honestly, I couldn't be bothered to go back and find it, why not quote instead?

Your running statement at that, would find anyone replying in sarcasm. Not only just....me.

Everyone here, knows for a fact what the difference is between a Nespresso and a semi-automatic/Manual/Home user/ProConsumer/Professional unit is.

Even grinders are not JUST grinders, burr/blade/manual no settings, with settings, manual Electronic, full auto, on demand, etc...

 

Thread is not mine, it's Chewy's.

 

My simple logic in this forum is, "You play nice, I will return thus."

 

Monday, do have a nice day.

 

Please read again your reply to previously first...

 

You are not the only coffee expert here. Want the last word, go ahead.... Thread is mostly yours anyway.

 

[Mazdaowner]

Just ran thru, if you don't have a Stainless Steel Tamper, try getting one, approximately 50mm Diameter for your basket.

Or custom make one, again, should be able to find online. Of custom a wooden one. Let me know if you need help.

 

I'm using Breville Cafe Roma entry level espresso machine. Grinder are manual burr grinder, bought 2nd hand from one of those coffee store. I also bought a thermometer for the steam milk/foam so that i don't burned the milk.

 

Oh, only make Mocha and Latte.

 

http://www.breville.com.au/products_detail.asp?prod=97

 

[Trex101]

Your Breville is with a pressured portafilter, look inside, there should be a silicon disc below, where you put the basket into (when you remove the baste you can see the rubber/basket disc. Also, when you use the portafilter, you just add in the grinds, and don't tamper, thus your need to grind it as fine as you can for extraction. If you use a unpressurized portafilter, and TAMPER your grinds, the taste of your brew would be far better then the slightly or well, a little more burnt taste you're getting now with your very fine grind. You will see what I mean, when you remove your portafilter from the machine, and look at the puck (used coffee grinds in the portafilter) it is wet and runny. (Over and under extraction produces crappy coffee)

 

No need for a thermometer, feel the steel milk jug with your hand, and when it gets too hot to keep your fingers on the jug, it's time to shut off the wand. The thermometer for me, gets in the way of steaming good milk for latte art.

 

How you tell if it's over or under extract? is it

 

under extract = wet and fill with water in portafilter

over extract = dry look in portafilter

 

also my basket look like this: http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ...RUuSYYgDxwP6pnA

 

Is this pressurised or unpressurised cos i saw there is a small hole in the basket.

[Mazdaowner]

If you pack the grinds in (sorry, I hope you don't think of me as some coffee expert here, but only giving you

my personal opinion and experience. Thank you. ) and when you switch on the machine for it to brew,

the coffee cones out very slowly, drip by drip, then it will be considered as under. If it runs out in a fast stream

from the portafilter, that is over. What you should see is a thin consistent stream, some what as they call, a "Rat's tail"

takes some time to get the grind right, and also tampering pressure.

 

No, the basket is just the normal steel basket, what you need to look at is the portafilter where the basket sits in, there is a

silicon/rubber disc below where the basket sits on. if you want to do tampering and grind settings, you'd have to remove the

silicon/rubber disc and also the springs and screws inside the portafilter, so it becomes a unpressurized portafilter.

 

How you tell if it's over or under extract? is it

 

under extract = wet and fill with water in portafilter

over extract = dry look in portafilter

 

also my basket look like this: http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ...RUuSYYgDxwP6pnA

 

Is this pressurised or unpressurised cos i saw there is a small hole in the basket.

 

[Trex101]

The machine does come with a plastic tamper and i always use it to tamper my basket.

[Mazdaowner]

Good then, two headed tamper I believe. Pressured portafilter, you can choose not to tamper

by grinding fine, and using your hand to level off with a slight gap of 3-4mm away from the tip of the basket,

so your machine's shower screen won't come into direct contact with the grinds. What are you using to clean the portafilter?

Any cleaning solution? There will be a build up of coffee oils in the portafilter, and stale oils will effect your brew taste.

If you want, I can pass you some to try, and later you go order on your own, online. 4 drops, press brew, and you'll

see all the oils being flushed out. Let me know if you need any.

 

The machine does come with a plastic tamper and i always use it to tamper my basket.

 

[Trex101]

If you pack the grinds in (sorry, I hope you don't think of me as some coffee expert here, but only giving you

my personal opinion and experience. Thank you. ) and when you switch on the machine for it to brew,

the coffee cones out very slowly, drip by drip, then it will be considered as under. If it runs out in a fast stream

from the portafilter, that is over. What you should see is a thin consistent stream, some what as they call, a "Rat's tail"

takes some time to get the grind right, and also tampering pressure.

 

No, the basket is just the normal steel basket, what you need to look at is the portafilter where the basket sits in, there is a

silicon/rubber disc below where the basket sits on. if you want to do tampering and grind settings, you'd have to remove the

silicon/rubber disc and also the springs and screws inside the portafilter, so it becomes a unpressurized portafilter.

 

No no, appreciate you giving me advice cos I'm a coffee newbie here trying to get a good shot of espresso. forums is a place where we exchange and learn from each other :)

 

Yah you right, if i use too fine grind the espresso stream will be very slow like dripping droplets. I just got it almost right with my grind, the stream is more consistent now and not very fast.

 

Ok, i just saw my portafilter, there's a screw to remove the plastic holder below, easy to remove. So unpressurised portafilter produce better shots then pressurised portafilter?

[Trex101]

Good then, two headed tamper I believe. Pressured portafilter, you can choose not to tamper

by grinding fine, and using your hand to level off with a slight gap of 3-4mm away from the tip of the basket,

so your machine's shower screen won't come into direct contact with the grinds. What are you using to clean the portafilter?

Any cleaning solution? There will be a build up of coffee oils in the portafilter, and stale oils will effect your brew taste.

If you want, I can pass you some to try, and later you go order on your own, online. 4 drops, press brew, and you'll

see all the oils being flushed out. Let me know if you need any.

 

Nah, i just use dishwashing liquid or just run it under tap water. Oh, i just removed the plastic holder in my portafilter, yah it looks really dirty with alot of coffee stain.

[Mazdaowner]

Thank you for your understanding. I can be rather sarcastic at times, only when called for. Not here to make enemies.

 

Yes, if you remove the silicon/rubber disc and all screws/springs, it will be unpressurized. (I never liked

hot coffee having to pass thru a silicon/rubber disc.) but you do know, that in doing so, you'd have to change your grind settings

all over again, and now also, have a consistent, tampering pressure (more then what you're doing now with the pressured, approx. 15kgs of pressure down, elbows right angle to get a good all round solid tamp pressure distribution.) Here is how mine looks like, it's a non-pressurized portafilter.

this one will be for a double shot, have a total of 4, single, 2 double, triple shot.

 

 

 

No no, appreciate you giving me advice cos I'm a coffee newbie here trying to get a good shot of espresso. forums is a place where we exchange and learn from each other :)

 

Yah you right, if i use too fine grind the espresso stream will be very slow like dripping droplets. I just got it almost right with my grind, the stream is more consistent now and not very fast.

 

Ok, i just saw my portafilter, there's a screw to remove the plastic holder below, easy to remove. So unpressurised portafilter produce better shots then pressurised portafilter?

 

[Mazdaowner]

If you're staying round Jurong, let me know, I'll pass you some of that cleaning liquid,

I use if for my French press, Mokka pots, which I rarely use, unless guest ask for.

It will clear out all the grime, but stains will be permanent in the plastic.

Running under the tap and with soupy water won't clear it.

Nah, i just use dishwashing liquid or just run it under tap water. Oh, i just removed the plastic holder in my portafilter, yah it looks really dirty with alot of coffee stain.

 

[Trex101]

If you're staying round Jurong, let me know, I'll pass you some of that cleaning liquid,

I use if for my French press, Mokka pots, which I rarely use, unless guest ask for.

It will clear out all the grime, but stains will be permanent in the plastic.

Running under the tap and with soupy water won't clear it.

 

Thank you Mazdaowner, thanks for your cleaning liquid offer but i wouldn't be around Spore anytime soon. Anyway, appreciate all your advice, later after cleaning my portafilter again, will give unpressurised shot a try.