Skywalker Neutral Newbie December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 Any idea if this is due to poor wheel balancing, or uneven tyre wear? Only experience this around 80km/h, any lower or higher is ok. No vibration from steering. Done wheel rotation, alignment and balancing but still have the noise...... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken1898 1st Gear December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 What car you driving? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Neutral Newbie December 18, 2010 Author Share December 18, 2010 err... got anything to do with different car? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haziqko Clutched December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 err... got anything to do with different car? Can hear from inside the car while windows up..??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xteme Neutral Newbie December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 is coming from the tyres.. usually is those performance tyre like f1 eagles.. those tyre with v cutting in between the tyre. or u nvr tighten ur lug nut... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky2007 Turbocharged December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 if yr tyre orientation is correct, then it could be due to the tyre tread design. My friends using flaken 512 & toyo t1r used to have this humming sound when their tyre is around 15k or 20k mileage on them. They thought its insulation problem, but once they change out the tyre to other model, the humming sound is gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 How old is yr car? It's the wheel bearings worn out. Is the noise like 'woong woong woong...'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvyn Neutral Newbie December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 Usually one of two scenarios. First could be you're using those performance summers where the grooves are wider and thicker and where they meet, a sharp angle is formed against the air running over the threads and the humming is produced. One eg is the Kumho KU tyres I was using, the inner threads cross to form a huge X and as the tyres wear, the sound gets louder, usually past the 5K mark. Second could be the compound of the tyres that's causing but all in all, most probably the rubbers are the culprits. Have a thrid possibility and that's the wheel bearings are worn. To check juz jack the car up and holding the 3 and 9 o'clock position, rock gently see if there's any give, then hold the 6 and 12 o'clock position and do the same. No need for hard tugging and pushing, if it's worn a gentle one will know. Then for the same wheel off the ground spin it and feel the arms for vibrations and listen for sounds. Simple check needing 5 min per wheels if you're proficient in the jacking up process. If not, wait till next balancing then get the mech to do since the car's jacked up. It would be most beneficial to perhaps list your car make and age as well as tyre type so the more pro ppl lurking ard in the forum can advise? Car make and age cuz I've frens who do hard driving after juz 2 years their Civics 2.0M have to replace bearings so type and age of ride may have a part to play since not all cars are created alike with some having better A and weaker B while another may have excellent X but lousy Y etc. Hope I helped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnieseah 1st Gear December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 How old is yr car? It's the wheel bearings worn out. Is the noise like 'woong woong woong...'? yes my car got woong woong woong sound when travelling aroung 80kmh or above, and only when steering slightly to the right. it is ok when straight or slightly to left. so which bearing worn? left or right? my car is jazz, where can i change it and how much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 yes my car got woong woong woong sound when travelling aroung 80kmh or above, and only when steering slightly to the right. it is ok when straight or slightly to left. so which bearing worn? left or right? my car is jazz, where can i change it and how much? Better to bring to a mechanic and check. They will know how to check. I also used to drive the Jazz and it's a common problem. Your usual workshop can do it and I remembered it's abt S$140 a pair or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberttan 5th Gear December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 Any idea if this is due to poor wheel balancing, or uneven tyre wear? Only experience this around 80km/h, any lower or higher is ok. No vibration from steering. Done wheel rotation, alignment and balancing but still have the noise...... base on my view yours are likely due tyre noise,but best is get the expert to check , advice from here(forum) without physical inspection is not accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 (edited) Any idea if this is due to poor wheel balancing, or uneven tyre wear? Only experience this around 80km/h, any lower or higher is ok. No vibration from steering. Done wheel rotation, alignment and balancing but still have the noise...... No mention what car model you drove No mention where it repeatedly happened No mention if all tire have the same tread pattern No mention if the road cambers where it happened No mention if shock absorbers are worn/in order No mention if there was/were loose articles carried in the car Edited December 18, 2010 by Good-Carbuyer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayoflight 5th Gear December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 Dont waste time changing tyres, if its a wong wong wong sound when u travel around 70-90km/h, chances your wheel bearing is worn out. Can jack up your car and spin your wheels, if feels uneven, wheelbearings are worn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD 2nd Gear December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 i have this prob as well i am driving a axio any bro can tell me wad is the caused of it thx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTan 2nd Gear December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 Try lowering or upping the tyre pressure. At least 50 kPa difference to really test the tyre thread is the culprit or not. This will test whether its the tyre or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Neutral Newbie December 18, 2010 Author Share December 18, 2010 Thanks for all the advise, here's the information, Car : Saab 9-5 (Nov'06) Tyre : Eagle F1 (approx. 25k km), 235/45R17 Symptom: "woong, woong" noise is heard between 70-90km/h, can hear from inside car w/ window closed, started about ~10k km ago, but more obvious recently Others : rotate tyre every 10k km. Done 4 wheel alignment and wheel balancing 5k km ago Changed the front support bearing, front arm bearing, thrust bearing and suspension bump stopper about 34k km ago (before current tyre). Tyre pressure : 38psi (manufacturer recommended 36psi) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb26dett Clutched December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 common for eagle F1 to be noisy . if wong wong sound is not that loud but still able to be heard inside cabin with windows closed , then it should be normal especially for f1s above 10k km mileage. if the sound is really loud and prominent , most likely is wheel bearing . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvyn Neutral Newbie December 18, 2010 Share December 18, 2010 Assuming your goodyears are locally bought I would assume they're either Eagle F1 Assym or GS-D3 since the other types are not that common here. Both are noisy when worn past 10K as the bro above mentioned. At least that's for my GS-D3 a while back. Think Assym with threadwear of 240 shd be even less lasting so both tend to make the moaning sound after some time. You also mentioned that the front bearing has been changed so I would guess that it's the tyres instead of the bearings unless the sound intrudes from the rear since rear bearings you've not changed. But short of me actually jacking up the car and checking end up is still best to let a tyre mech check it for peace of mind. But IMHO I would guess it's the tyres. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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