Does education reflect directly on how much u earn?

[Observer]

fyi im doing a sale job right now. but low com job and cant get me anywhere with my current working experience

 

what product/service you sell?

 

hr? cars? mlm? insurance? property?

[Dpsk]

absolutely not. other than those from university like MIT and etc ivy league, education system here only produce workers.

i dont hire SIM and those private schoolers also.

 

 

[Minikong]

since we are all working for ppl, just to share my personal opinion i had gather in my working experience.

the only way to make yourself valuable, and paid high, or even be a partner of the company, is you be the product yourself

see those

* top lawyer, they themselve is the product. when he/she is good/ she enjoy all the fruits

* top bankers, 1 man monery printing machine, generate millions of profit via 1 man show.

* property agent, 1 power talk story mouth, no boss to report, and super high comm, can hit millions a year

 

these ppl main money making tool is thier knowledge! and dont require much tool to earn the money. unlike an enginner that required the machine to do his job. so these ppl themselve are the product, and will always be headhunted by other.

i saw a joke recently and wish to share, a mechanic saw a surgeon and ask him, hey surgeon i can make my the car broom, and race in f1, and win f1, and i can repair the car even if it is gone, i am such a successful mechanic, and earn so many awards, but how come i earn so much lesser than you? the surgeon just reply, u try to fix your car when the engine is on.....

[Initial_fire82]

what product/service you sell?

 

hr? cars? mlm? insurance? property?

 

those that u mention are are high com or no basic job.. im a product sale person with low com and not so high basic which add up to ard 3k. i dont think i will have any prospect in this local company. "Local company" you all know what i mean?

[Minikong]

absolutely not. other than those from university like MIT and etc ivy league, education system here only produce workers.

i dont hire SIM and those private schoolers also.

 

 

yes but u hire them doing csr......

[Theoldjaffa]

In my company, a US Fortune 100 MNC, many salespeople are diploma or O level holders. They can rise up to GM positions based on merit and performance, not on paper qualifications.

 

However, to be considered for Director level, a Degree is needed. For Senior Directors, A master's degree is the minimum.

 

Let's just say that the degree you are investing in now will open doors to more senior management positions in future.

 

Although private degrees are considered 3rd class by many, but still it's a general representation of one's ability as they are able to think and analyse at tertiary level

[Minikong]

those that u mention are are high com or no basic job.. im a product sale person with low com and not so high basic which add up to ard 3k. i dont think i will have any prospect in this local company. "Local company" you all know what i mean?

 

actually, what is wrong with local company, if you got the chance to perform

i my self work for a local company, and i know what you mean....

local company tends to be very stingy, and pay little.......

but i am very happy working here, and company trust in me and give me lot of oppurtunity that i yearn for.

to me a happy working enviroment and new propsect in the company is my career path objective.

[Freestylers09]

i noticed US MNC are like that but of coz not all

 

they value ur capabilities instead..

[Ladykillerz]

further studies is definitely good and i strongly recommended.

you can gain more knowledge and exposure.

by having a higher qualification, there will be a better stepping stone for you too.

however, i totally disagree that having high qualification will lead you to a better life.

ultimately, it is still you and how you work towards your goals and so on. =p

[Chinablue]

im 28 and earning ard 3k and thinking of studying a degree. im consider old as a student plus surely not gifted to be a scholar. school fee is near 30k. is it worth the effort, time and money?

 

which unisim degree you looking at?

knew some friends taking their degree at there and they have some sort of 40% rebate in their degree course so ultimately, it probably costs less than 20k.

 

my take is, if you have the time and extra cash to burn, no harm getting degree to look good in your resume and also to ask more for your salary.

Else, it's just a paper like your other qualifications.

 

Yes, work performance plays a very big part in your career path unless you are in stat boards companies "where every straight As counts and you must be a scholar from some distinguished overseas uni". some say "excellent boot-licking and tai ji skills" are highly desirable as well.

Edited November 18, 2010 by Chinablue

[Ultramega]

im 28 and earning ard 3k and thinking of studying a degree. im consider old as a student plus surely not gifted to be a scholar. school fee is near 30k. is it worth the effort, time and money?

 

Yes it is worth it. You are still young. And since you are going to uni, you may want consider taking this chance to go into another industry too. Just choose the right course.

 

 

[Atonchia]

im 28 and earning ard 3k and thinking of studying a degree. im consider old as a student plus surely not gifted to be a scholar. school fee is near 30k. is it worth the effort, time and money?

 

 

If you are a salesman, how long do you think you can remain in that position? How much energy do you have compare to a 25yr old when you are 45 yr old. How to make you difference from the 25yr when you are 45?

 

Experience counts, but knowledge from books and study can provide the quantum leap, it can accelerate your learning curve.

If you want to be in the management to lead and manage people, go for tertiary education.

Learn not just the knowledge and information, but practise the teambuilding to meet project deadline with good scores.

It's the cultivation of learning habit that help you eventually, not just the accumulation facts and figures.

Good application of knowledge is wisdom.

 

I went through what you are going through few years back. You ask any HR personnel how they select the candidates, you will know the importance of having the paper.

 

But if you should sign up, don't be cheat yourself by thinking that 'I'll just want to get passes and the cert' you will not benefit from it.

Aim for distinction for all subjects, even if you miss, you'll not be too far. It can be done.

 

You work and life experience and maturity will help. What you study then will just gel and you are able to get different perspective to the a single problem.

 

It's going to be difficult to juggle work with study. Time management is important and there will be sacrifices. But the fruit of labour will be sweet.

 

Go for it.

[Atonchia]

Like Einstein once said.

 

Insanity: Is doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.

 

We have to do something different from our routine in order to break away from a fix pattern.

Learn to embrace changes, it's the only constant.

[Observer]

those that u mention are are high com or no basic job.. im a product sale person with low com and not so high basic which add up to ard 3k. i dont think i will have any prospect in this local company. "Local company" you all know what i mean?

ic...in such case, its time to jump! Try jumping first instead of going back sch....its quite expensive for part time degrees man

[Initial_fire82]

If you are a salesman, how long do you think you can remain in that position? How much energy do you have compare to a 25yr old when you are 45 yr old. How to make you difference from the 25yr when you are 45?

 

Experience counts, but knowledge from books and study can provide the quantum leap, it can accelerate your learning curve.

If you want to be in the management to lead and manage people, go for tertiary education.

Learn not just the knowledge and information, but practise the teambuilding to meet project deadline with good scores.

It's the cultivation of learning habit that help you eventually, not just the accumulation facts and figures.

Good application of knowledge is wisdom.

 

I went through what you are going through few years back. You ask any HR personnel how they select the candidates, you will know the importance of having the paper.

 

But if you should sign up, don't be cheat yourself by thinking that 'I'll just want to get passes and the cert' you will not benefit from it.

Aim for distinction for all subjects, even if you miss, you'll not be too far. It can be done.

 

You work and life experience and maturity will help. What you study then will just gel and you are able to get different perspective to the a single problem.

 

It's going to be difficult to juggle work with study. Time management is important and there will be sacrifices. But the fruit of labour will be sweet.

 

Go for it.

 

i am so glad that im not alone facing this problems. when i see that my career going too slowly, thats why i want to find a way out. upgrading in education is one of my options.

 

[Initial_fire82]

ic...in such case, its time to jump! Try jumping first instead of going back sch....its quite expensive for part time degrees man

 

 

for direct sales, its around that pay. jump to where also not a big diff leh.. unless changing a career path which means i must start all over again :(

[Little_prince]

im 28 and earning ard 3k and thinking of studying a degree. im consider old as a student plus surely not gifted to be a scholar. school fee is near 30k. is it worth the effort, time and money?

 

3k per month for a diploma holder is pretty good actually.

 

you think a degree will help you make a big jump?

 

unlikely depending on what industry you're in.

 

some industry values exp and certifcations rather than degrees.

 

so don't blindly join the paper chase and fail to consider the roi.

 

 

[Ghostami]

those that u mention are are high com or no basic job.. im a product sale person with low com and not so high basic which add up to ard 3k. i dont think i will have any prospect in this local company. "Local company" you all know what i mean?

 

Same here, local company, boss stingy like fark.. Every month like paying myself to work for him instead of him paying for me to work. NExt company I go will not be a local anymore...