Cruelty to Animals.......

[Crazecow]

Sigh.... So sianz.... Feel so fustrated yet cannot do anything about it......

 

How about you. do you feel the same when you see people abuse and kill animals or even skin them alive?

 

The only thing I can do is keep praying hoping they will be punished one day.

 

May those poor animals RIP......

 

Esp. one country called China.... I hate that place and their people.

[Thelord]

ya i feel the same too, whats the scariest being on earth, i think is humans themselves.

[Jman888]

culture different ....

[Copen]

Are u a vegetarian? I think the only way to stop all these cruelty is to go vege! You don't know how those animals are treated for poultry. Click here to see.

[questionedfish]

kill animal for food, fine with it.

 

kill animal for senseless reasons, should report to spca.

Edited November 13, 2010 by Lamzh87

[1fast1]

Somewhat OT, but since someone brought up vegetarianism:

 

I am vegetarian (lacto-ovo, so not a pure vegan), but I was born and raised that way. This way, it's easy to continue because it's by habit and conditioning. The home environment is vegetarian also.

 

I have a Chinese friend who started out as a non-vegetarian, even eating snakes and insects, and who became completely vegan (even stricter than me) after young adulthood. Many in his family are still meat-eaters, but he perseveres. I have great respect for such commitment.

[Crazecow]

Are u a vegetarian? I think the only way to stop all these cruelty is to go vege! You don't know how those animals are treated for poultry. Click here to see.

 

Nope. Its not the case. We can continue to eat meat. Its about how we treat these farm animals. I know USA is number 1 when it comes to such cruelty. They are treating farm animals like some chunks of meat and bones meant to be slaughtered......

 

We should be moving towards a more humae way of raising these animals for food and give them a quick, non scary and painless death. They won't even know they are killed.

 

May the lord punish those who have sin and abuse your creations......

[Crazecow]

Somewhat OT, but since someone brought up vegetarianism:

 

I am vegetarian (lacto-ovo, so not a pure vegan), but I was born and raised that way. This way, it's easy to continue because it's by habit and conditioning. The home environment is vegetarian also.

 

I have a Chinese friend who started out as a non-vegetarian, even eating snakes and insects, and who became completely vegan (even stricter than me) after young adulthood. Many in his family are still meat-eaters, but he perseveres. I have great respect for such commitment.

 

This is just my personal opinion but I don't see vegetarians as any less sinful than meat eaters. Doesn't put meat into your mouth doesn't mean you reduce killing or cruelty to animals. The medicine you take is tested on animals (some medicine are by products of certain animals). The shampoo and cosmetics you use is tested on animals too. Even the surgeons who operate on you train and hone their skills on animals. The veg you take is planted on land that used to be forest and home to many animals. Now these land are cleared to satisfy your needs. You destroy their homes.

 

Then look at how much flour is wasted just to create gluten.

 

Thus, we are all equally guilty one way or another.

Edited November 13, 2010 by Crazecow

[Jman888]

May the lord punish those who have sin and abuse your creations......

 

 

think how human survive till 2010

 

[1fast1]

This is just my personal opinion but I don't see vegetarians as any less sinful than meat eaters. Doesn't put meat into your mouth doesn't mean you reduce killing or cruelty to animals. The medicine you take is tested on animals (some medicine are by products of certain animals). The shampoo and cosmetics you use is tested on animals too. Even the surgeons who operate on you train and hone their skills on animals. The veg you take is planted on land that used to be forest and home to many animals. Now these land are cleared to satisfy your needs. You destroy their homes.

 

Then look at how much flour is wasted just to create gluten.

 

Thus, we are all equally guilty one way or another.

 

I don't generally proselytize about meat-eating (my vegan friend does, somewhat), so your argument is wasted on me. But I will say that your post is a common rationalisation put forth by many meat-eaters. Some points are valid, others are not.

 

Shampoos, cosmetics, leather goods, etc. - obviously humane alternatives (non-animal-derived, non-animal-tested) exist, and they're fairly popular.

 

Pharmaceuticals and medical devices - yes, they're animal tested, and I still don't see an elegant alternative, so I accept it. Many of these are life-saving and life-prolonging, and I still accept that human life takes precedence.

 

Land-clearing - Animal husbandry requires the clearing of land, too. And much of the arable land that's cleared is for food crop meant for feeding animals. The *majority* of grain-produce goes toward feeding animals that are bred for slaughter. Clearly, the land for these crops also had to be cleared of native vegetation. It's not unreasonable to suppose that the demand for arable land would *decrease* if the world became 100% vegan and animal husbandry was eradicated (humanely allow extant sterilised farm animals to live out their natural lives and don't rear anymore). So your point here is also invalid.

 

At the end of the day, I'm not judging you for eating meat. It's your choice. But for you to baldly state that I'm just as sinful as you for eschewing meat is just plain ridiculous.

Edited November 13, 2010 by Turboflat4

[Crazecow]

think how human survive till 2010

 

Humans survied till 2010 just means most of us have been spared from the wrath of lord. Thats all. But not everyone is. Look at the number of disasters now...... It will keep on increasing..... Its a warning sign. Too bad most don't bother. When that day comes, good luck to the rest....

[Crazecow]

I don't generally proselytize about meat-eating (my vegan friend does, somewhat), so your argument is wasted on me. But I will say that your post is a common rationalisation put forth by many meat-eaters. Some points are valid, others are not.

 

Shampoos, cosmetics, leather goods, etc. - obviously humane alternatives (non-animal-derived, non-animal-tested) exist, and they're fairly popular.

 

Pharmaceuticals and medical devices - yes, they're animal tested, and I still don't see an elegant alternative, so I accept it. Many of these are life-saving and life-prolonging, and I still accept that human life takes precedence.

 

Land-clearing - Animal husbandry requires the clearing of land, too. And much of the arable land that's cleared is for food crop meant for feeding animals. The *majority* of grain-produce goes toward feeding animals that are bred for slaughter. Clearly, the land for these crops also had to be cleared of native vegetation. It's not unreasonable to suppose that the demand for arable land would *decrease* if the world became 100% vegan and animal husbandry was eradicated (humanely allow extant sterilised farm animals to live out their natural lives and don't rear anymore). So your point here is also invalid.

 

At the end of the day, I'm not judging you for eating meat. It's your choice. But for you to baldly state that I'm just as sinful as you for eschewing meat is just plain ridiculous.

 

I will not argue with you whos more sinful. You have your own religion and your beliefs, I have my own as well. I am just telling you what I believe in.