Crazecow Neutral Newbie November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N57 Take a look at the latest BMW diesel engine esp. the twin turbo engine. Its HP is 302HP with a whopping 600Nm of torque!! By contrast, BMW's N54B30 (a 3L turbo engine) produces ~330HP and 450Nm torque. Can fight even evos and WRX easily (stock for stock of course). But the 600Nm toruqe allows the diesel car to pull ahead long before the WRX or Evo's turbo kicks in.... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceroymenthol 6th Gear November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N57 Take a look at the latest BMW diesel engine esp. the twin turbo engine. Its HP is 302HP with a whopping 600Nm of torque!! By contrast, BMW's N54B30 (a 3L turbo engine) produces ~330HP and 450Nm torque. Can fight even evos and WRX easily (stock for stock of course). But the 600Nm toruqe allows the diesel car to pull ahead long before the WRX or Evo's turbo kicks in.... bro, ppl know this fact from long ago liao... if not for the high tax on diesel, everybody switch to diesel liao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedream 3rd Gear November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 BMW owners must be very sad that you compare their make with EVOs and WRXes... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordlonewolf Clutched November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 Once TurboCharge High Compression Petrol/Gasoline Direct Injection becomes mainstream , u won't envy diesel engine anymore . Add to that the REASON why Clean Diesel is not widely use in SG is health matters though emmision is cleaner but more harmful to human body , some examples below taken from net The components of diesel exhaust undergo atmospheric transformation and become more potent mutagens and carcinogens. It is evident from latest researches that the cancer potency of diesel vehicles is more than double the same of gasoline vehicles. The carcinogenic effects of diesel particulates is 24 times greater than that of Gasoline and 84 times greater than that of the Compressed Natural Gas (CNG). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 One must use better grade of diesel to get that kinda figures. Sgp only has one grade of diesel to choose from. The diesel grade in Europe is same price as their petrol grade there and has premium diesel for their tc diesel engines. So you can forget about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiadaw 6th Gear November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N57 Take a look at the latest BMW diesel engine esp. the twin turbo engine. Its HP is 302HP with a whopping 600Nm of torque!! By contrast, BMW's N54B30 (a 3L turbo engine) produces ~330HP and 450Nm torque. Can fight even evos and WRX easily (stock for stock of course). But the 600Nm toruqe allows the diesel car to pull ahead long before the WRX or Evo's turbo kicks in.... Even the petrol variant can beat evo & rex liao lah. Anyway, Turbo diesel cars have been dominating LE Mans for quite a while liao. I have a colleague back when I was working oversea that swear by only diesel car. Beside, Diesel sound cooler, Imagine Fast & Furious starring Vin Petrol!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrynadz 5th Gear November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 Once TurboCharge High Compression Petrol/Gasoline Direct Injection becomes mainstream , u won't envy diesel engine anymore . Add to that the REASON why Clean Diesel is not widely use in SG is health matters though emmision is cleaner but more harmful to human body , some examples below taken from net The components of diesel exhaust undergo atmospheric transformation and become more potent mutagens and carcinogens. It is evident from latest researches that the cancer potency of diesel vehicles is more than double the same of gasoline vehicles. The carcinogenic effects of diesel particulates is 24 times greater than that of Gasoline and 84 times greater than that of the Compressed Natural Gas (CNG). i think u need to read more in depth instead of google/copy/paste and appear to be knowledgeable most conti engines regardless petrol/dieseleven those 5-10yr ago engine blocks are able to meet euro4 emissions which japs have to spend the past 3-4yrs making new blocks from scratch (kia/hyundai..etc) or increase capacity to meet emissions (subaru/mitsu..etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazecow Neutral Newbie November 8, 2010 Author Share November 8, 2010 Once TurboCharge High Compression Petrol/Gasoline Direct Injection becomes mainstream , u won't envy diesel engine anymore . Add to that the REASON why Clean Diesel is not widely use in SG is health matters though emmision is cleaner but more harmful to human body , some examples below taken from net The components of diesel exhaust undergo atmospheric transformation and become more potent mutagens and carcinogens. It is evident from latest researches that the cancer potency of diesel vehicles is more than double the same of gasoline vehicles. The carcinogenic effects of diesel particulates is 24 times greater than that of Gasoline and 84 times greater than that of the Compressed Natural Gas (CNG). Well, I believe thats the reason why diesel has a particulate filter. Its to filter out such harmful particulates. Due to progression of engine technology, diesel engines today are even more environmental friendly than some petrol engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-K 2nd Gear November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 Regardless of price, diesel gives better milage than gasoline. 1 Ltr of diesel can go farhter than 1 litre of petrol. That's why diesel cars are heavily taxed here. Just to keep the running cost of passenger vehicles high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavina Neutral Newbie November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 Singapore really damn slow in adapting these new engine standards. Diesel engines are most prolly as or not more efficient than petrol engines. Not to mention hella torquer too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazecow Neutral Newbie November 8, 2010 Author Share November 8, 2010 Singapore really damn slow in adapting these new engine standards. Diesel engines are most prolly as or not more efficient than petrol engines. Not to mention hella torquer too Even petrol also slow.... Other countries already have E5 or E10 petrol we still don't have..... Still no biodiesel also...... damm lousy..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 It is not Singapore is slow in adapting new engine standards. Please bear in mind that there is no diesel tax, only petrol tax. If there's no SPECIAL tax and everybody starts buying diesel cars, where are they going to get their salary from? Btw, biodiesel is available in Singapore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astonmartin Neutral Newbie November 8, 2010 Share November 8, 2010 Most of the taxis on our road are fitted with turbo diesel engines... Skoda, Sonata, Merc.. just to name some. If the taxi drivers are "hiong" enough, they are able to escape from the Orange-Striped WRX on the expressways! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehive3783 Turbocharged November 9, 2010 Share November 9, 2010 Most of the taxis on our road are fitted with turbo diesel engines... Skoda, Sonata, Merc.. just to name some. If the taxi drivers are "hiong" enough, they are able to escape from the Orange-Striped WRX on the expressways! They don't even need to chase.. just need to take down your number plate will do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehive3783 Turbocharged November 9, 2010 Share November 9, 2010 Singapore really damn slow in adapting these new engine standards. Diesel engines are most prolly as or not more efficient than petrol engines. Not to mention hella torquer too Damn slow? Sorry they are not damn slow.. they just want to milk money out of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion 5th Gear November 9, 2010 Share November 9, 2010 Our orange stripe car also turbo charge leh.What makes you think orange stripe can't catch up with blue/yellow sonata? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazecow Neutral Newbie November 9, 2010 Author Share November 9, 2010 It is not Singapore is slow in adapting new engine standards. Please bear in mind that there is no diesel tax, only petrol tax. If there's no SPECIAL tax and everybody starts buying diesel cars, where are they going to get their salary from? Btw, biodiesel is available in Singapore. Errr.... I don't really agree on the diesel tax part. Thats because the amt consumers pay for diesel is considerably higher than those cabs (they do pay diesel tax of I think $5K a year). The cabbies are paying a lower price for the diesel (last heard from a driver around 80C) compared to $1.3 for regular diesl price. This means we are already paying a tax. Putting special tax on diesel cars is like double taxing. Regarding biodiesel, I did read about it on papers but I have yet to see a petrol station putting up sign that says biodiesel. Its extremely scarce just like CNG.... Have is like don't have.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic November 9, 2010 Share November 9, 2010 be like me, don buy car, buy truck diesel power!!!!! Vroooommmm!!!!!! how come everyone else is faster than me???? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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