Pennzoil Ultra 5w30 Euro

[Shando]

Last night i was just msning Terence and he was pretty excited talking about the new Pennzoil Ultra Euro that he will be bringing in, especially the PU 5w30ESP version. Was told a lot of technical details but still couldn't quite understand, why is HTHS so important? was told this oil has very high HTHS 3.7 for a 5w30 oil

 

Any oil expert can explain?

 

http://www.pennzoil.com/#/motor-oil/pennzoil-ultra

 

http://www.pennzoil.com/documents/PENNZOIL...ropeanL5W30.pdf

[Furrynadz]

HTHS is a indication of how the oil will maintain its viscosity over prolonged usage and heat cycles

 

usually when looking for an oil, we see the cst@100, HTHS and TBN

 

the range of 3.7 is a requirement for A3 oil, basically this is a 30wt that is at the thick end, close to a 40wt

 

its cst@100 being 12 is very close to 12.2, that of the infamous german castrol

 

my concern for this oil would be the 229.51 and LL-04, as well as not listing the TBN, i think the TBN should be around the same 6-8 region like AFL amsoil series, sicne 229.51 calls for low SAPS

 

its a pretty good oil, 7500km should be fine

 

i more interested in the 5w40, with LL-01 and 229.5 its a better bet

LL-04 and 229.51 reduced additives for prolonged cleaning, not good for vpower racing/97 lovers

Edited October 16, 2010 by Furrynadz

[Good-Carbuyer]

Last night i was just msning Terence and he was pretty excited talking about the new Pennzoil Ultra Euro that he will be bringing in, especially the PU 5w30ESP version. Was told a lot of technical details but still couldn't quite understand, why is HTHS so important? was told this oil has very high HTHS 3.7 for a 5w30 oil

 

Any oil expert can explain?

 

http://www.pennzoil.com/#/motor-oil/pennzoil-ultra

 

http://www.pennzoil.com/documents/PENNZOIL...ropeanL5W30.pdf

Just curious if SAE 0-30 any better than SAE 5W-30 engine oil?

[Octopus]

Last night i was just msning Terence and he was pretty excited talking about the new Pennzoil Ultra Euro that he will be bringing in, especially the PU 5w30ESP version. Was told a lot of technical details but still couldn't quite understand, why is HTHS so important? was told this oil has very high HTHS 3.7 for a 5w30 oil

 

Any oil expert can explain?

 

http://www.pennzoil.com/#/motor-oil/pennzoil-ultra

 

http://www.pennzoil.com/documents/PENNZOIL...ropeanL5W30.pdf

 

People in BITOG are saying Pennzoil Ultra are similiar to Shell Heliux Ultra, except for this case is the low SAP version. I've not tried Helix Ultra, but quite a few not so promising comment on Helix Ultra locally..

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbth...;Number=2041958

 

Some discussion on HTHS here:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbth...rue#Post1988816

 

Unless your engine required the low SAP oil, otherwise non-low SAP oil would have more AW & EP additive for better protection.

Edited October 16, 2010 by Octopus

[Trex101]

HTHS is a indication of how the oil will maintain its viscosity over prolonged usage and heat cycles

 

usually when looking for an oil, we see the cst@100, HTHS and TBN

 

the range of 3.7 is a requirement for A3 oil, basically this is a 30wt that is at the thick end, close to a 40wt

 

its cst@100 being 12 is very close to 12.2, that of the infamous german castrol

 

my concern for this oil would be the 229.51 and LL-04, as well as not listing the TBN, i think the TBN should be around the same 6-8 region like AFL amsoil series, sicne 229.51 calls for low SAPS

 

its a pretty good oil, 7500km should be fine

 

i more interested in the 5w40, with LL-01 and 229.5 its a better bet

LL-04 and 229.51 reduced additives for prolonged cleaning, not good for vpower racing/97 lovers

 

IMO, I think this Pennzoil Ultra ESP is a class above the normal Ultra 5w30 which has a HTHS of only 3.1, low SAP doesn't affect Sporeans much as most ppl change oil at 10k km interval.

The thing that attract me is the new "hyper cleaning additives package", this is something new that i would like to try it for myself. My personal vehicle has pretty bad varnish due to years of neglect by previous owner, hope this can hasten the clean-up process.

 

mine

 

 

 

[Shando]

Not sure about this oil spec and such but overall consensus is this Ultra seem pretty decent. Will try it in my next oil change so long as Terence price it properly, you know what i mean

[Ken4555]

i am no expert on oil... but just sharing my thoughts...

 

Pennzoil EOs has claims of having very good cleaning detergents... saw in their adverts... also more Zinc?

 

i have this feeling that any oil that has very good cleaning powers have a higher percentage of the same ingredients you find in 'flushing' oils...

 

sorry if i'm talking a whole load of bull....

[Shando]

i am no expert on oil... but just sharing my thoughts...

 

Pennzoil EOs has claims of having very good cleaning detergents... saw in their adverts... also more Zinc?

 

i have this feeling that any oil that has very good cleaning powers have a higher percentage of the same ingredients you find in 'flushing' oils...

 

sorry if i'm talking a whole load of bull....

 

It's different, most flushing oil are make up of solvent while engine oil are designed with precise amount of additives mixture/blend to pass ACEA, API and GF5 spec.

[Garlic]

Looks interesting.

 

HTHS is almost that of Redline 5W30, cst@100 looks good too.

 

Trying to find a VOA for this, not too optimistic about TBN since its low SAPS.

 

 

[Furrynadz]

i just change to 5w40 redline this time

will try the penzoil next round

[Mini-itx2010]

The specs looks pretty good. I am keen to see how this oil compares with Amsoil. And of course the price as well.

[Ken1898]

UMW Equipment & Engineering carry all kinds of Pennzoil oil in Singapore. Not sure abt this new Ultra Euro.

[Octopus]

The specs looks pretty good. I am keen to see how this oil compares with Amsoil. And of course the price as well.

 

Might not be a fair comparison because Ultra 5w30 Euro is low SAP. Amsoil I think maybe don't have any 30 weight engine oil which are low SAP? I only know Amsoil AFL 5w40 are low SAP.

 

Depending on what your car engine need, Amsoil is coming out with new XL with extended drain boost which have nice specification, of course its design for different purpose as compared to this Ultra Euro.

[Octopus]

IMO, I think this Pennzoil Ultra ESP is a class above the normal Ultra 5w30 which has a HTHS of only 3.1, low SAP doesn't affect Sporeans much as most ppl change oil at 10k km interval.

The thing that attract me is the new "hyper cleaning additives package", this is something new that i would like to try it for myself. My personal vehicle has pretty bad varnish due to years of neglect by previous owner, hope this can hasten the clean-up process.

 

mine

 

I think Auto-RX or ester base oil would do a better job in cleaning out engine internal, but not sure varnish can be remove or not...

[Trex101]

I think Auto-RX or ester base oil would do a better job in cleaning out engine internal, but not sure varnish can be remove or not...

 

I have too many oil to try, RL 5w30, RLI 0w30, Amsoil HDD 5w30 or this Ultra ESP are all good candidate for testing. I still have 3k more before my OCI is due so still have quite some time before decide.

[Octopus]

You lucky guy.... Do keep us update on which oil clean the best.

[Trex101]

You lucky guy.... Do keep us update on which oil clean the best.

 

I'm very interested in trying this ultra since BITOG is so hot about it. That why i source so hard trying to find this oil, especially this ESP version.

[Lmf78]

noob Q - hows this compared to RL 5w30 or Amsoil 5w30?