This thing will eat a Bugatti Veyron alive !!!

[Throttle2]

agree!

 

stock to stock.

 

no point mod here and there.

 

i can put a jet engine too.

 

 

yah, the moment theres a mod, there is no more basis for meaningful comparison

[SeriousGuy]

This thing can't defeat bugatti , if so easy , why would people spend those money on bugatti ?

 

a Mustang 1,000HP + race with a bugatti veyron , but bugatti won the race

 

you can watch it on youtube ..

[Galantspeedz]

This thing can't defeat bugatti , if so easy , why would people spend those money on bugatti ?

 

a Mustang 1,000HP + race with a bugatti veyron , but bugatti won the race

 

you can watch it on youtube ..

 

Veron vs GTR

 

what happened? how did the GTR tear the veryon like tissue paper?

[Happily1986]

But the Veyron sure is butt ugly.

[Xavina]

 

Chomp chomp chomp om nom nom nom

[Friendstar]

Veron vs GTR

 

what happened? how did the GTR tear the veryon like tissue paper?

 

 

my opinion is...

 

it was raining. the driver of veyron has no balls.

[Kiadaw]

Want to compare mod car. Let me show you my friend, Ron car.

Ron's rocket Beetle

 

 

Of course, many cars can be mod to high Hp. Actually, hp is one of the easiest mod to do, but the hard part is always reliability & sustainability.

 

1000+ hp, Supra, Viper, GT-R have been around from ages, just youtube, but try to daily drive any of the high compression cars near its capacity for substantiate time & see if their engine bay smoked out or transmission fail. If you drive normally, alot of these car with big turbo lag like hell. Of couse, if you just wanted occasional sprint or spirited drive, or push your car in drag strip, then I guess its fine.

 

In fact, the veyron engine was documented to be detune. It can hold much much more power, & of course at the price of reliability.

 

Walk into most workshops with your covette, GT-R or even evo, & 700-800 whp can be comfortably achieve, so whats the big deal VW engineers achieve 1000hp? Also if hp can be so easily achieve, why don't more manufacturer put 500-600hp into their garden variety grocery getter, since hp sells? You mean most of manufacturers engineers are "cheap eat, cheat drink?". You know a amount and harshest of reliability tests manufacturers have to do on their cars?

 

We all appreciate a good tuner car, even my car is modded (but only slightly lah), but have to compare in perspective lah.

 

 

 

 

[Mini-itx]

Want to compare mod car. Let me show you my friend, Ron car.

 

Ron's rocket Beetle

 

 

Of course, many cars can be mod to high Hp. Actually, hp is one of the easiest mod to do, but the hard part is always reliability & sustainability.

 

1000+ hp, Supra, Viper, GT-R have been around from ages, just youtube, but try to daily drive any of the high compression cars near its capacity for substantiate time & see if their engine bay smoked out or transmission fail. If you drive normally, alot of these car with big turbo lag like hell. Of couse, if you just wanted occasional sprint or spirited drive, or push your car in drag strip, then I guess its fine.

 

In fact, the veyron engine was documented to be detune. It can hold much much more power, & of course at the price of reliability.

 

Walk into most workshops with your covette, GT-R or even evo, & 700-800 whp can be comfortably achieve, so whats the big deal VW engineers achieve 1000hp? Also if hp can be so easily achieve, why don't more manufacturer put 500-600hp into their garden variety grocery getter, since hp sells? You mean most of manufacturers engineers are "cheap eat, cheat drink?". You know a amount and harshest of reliability tests manufacturers have to do on their cars?

 

We all appreciate a good tuner car, even my car is modded (but only slightly lah), but have to compare in perspective lah.

 

 

 

Yes, I fully agreed with you. Sure a modded GTR/Viper/Supra etc can hit 1000HP or even higher (some cars can even hit 2000HP). Sub 10s is not diffiuclt to achieve at a drag strip. Someone has even managed 6.7s using a modded 3SGTE (yes a 2L 4 potter).

 

But the question is how long can these engines last if you constantly boost till 1000HP? At such powers, each cylinder for a 6 potter needs to produce ~167HP compared to a Veyron's 62.5HP (1000HP spread over 16 cylinders). There will be much higher wear and fatigue to the metal. The crank will warped more than ever and soon you will need to rebuild the engine replacing the worn parts.

 

Not to mention the rest of the car as well, gearbox, clutch, CV joints, differentials etc........ I have seen on the forums people snapping their center shaft, CV joints etc because of the extra power.

 

By contrast, a Veyron's engine has been extensively tested at over 1000HP to ensure it can run reliably at that HP (over engineered). Thus its much more reliable.

[SeriousGuy]

Veron vs GTR

 

what happened? how did the GTR tear the veryon like tissue paper?

sorry my fault , btw the buggati engine is very quiet

[Galantspeedz]

sorry my fault , btw the buggati engine is very quiet

 

i think like what friendstar say..... maybe the veryon no guts..... cuz at the end of the video can see the veryon taking over then slow down again

[Zangetsu77]

should compare stock to stock, if not talk till cows come home.

otherwise get a proton and whack a monster truck engine, change all the required parts , can also go faster than an R35 x 35 lah

 

hahahah

 

Nonono... So far nothing beats the Bugatti stock, so obviously the comparison has to be modded vs Bugatti stock.

[Throttle2]

Nonono... So far nothing beats the Bugatti stock, so obviously the comparison has to be modded vs Bugatti stock.

 

well, from one perspective, it could be barely agreeable.

However, it's silly to compare any modded car against a stock car.

so what if the modded car wins? it bloody modded to win.

and if it doesnt win, just mod until win. simple.

 

the key for comparison must first be production stock versus production stock.

 

[Minikong]

This thing can't defeat bugatti , if so easy , why would people spend those money on bugatti ?

 

a Mustang 1,000HP + race with a bugatti veyron , but bugatti won the race

 

you can watch it on youtube ..

 

yes aero dynamics do a big part also, as veyron had one of the best design for it

[Zangetsu77]

well, from one perspective, it could be barely agreeable.

However, it's silly to compare any modded car against a stock car.

so what if the modded car wins? it bloody modded to win.

and if it doesnt win, just mod until win. simple.

 

the key for comparison must first be production stock versus production stock.

 

"Mod" or "stock" it's just a state of mind... Ultimately, all cars are products of technology from metal/plastic/carbon etc. Branded cars will command a premium because of the brand value, but for racing purposes the ROI will really be a measure of performance versus cost.

 

In any case, the "stock" Veyron is still not beaten by the "mod" R35 yet.

[Happily1986]

well, from one perspective, it could be barely agreeable.

However, it's silly to compare any modded car against a stock car.

so what if the modded car wins? it bloody modded to win.

and if it doesnt win, just mod until win. simple.

 

the key for comparison must first be production stock versus production stock.

 

Me thinks that homologation is often left out when people consider the comparison. To me, a car represents a total engineering effort. One ought not to neglect reliability engineering as well. Like what Kiadaw mention, how long can those modded monsters soldier on with all with their horses unleashed?

 

Back to the issue of homologation. One can mod a car with excellent characteristics. Now make this guy do dozens or even hundreds of units. What i appreciate about Bugatti is not simply their ability to squeeze out the ponies but to systematically, consistently and reliably churn out monsters that you know won't piang on you suddenly.

[Throttle2]

"Mod" or "stock" it's just a state of mind... Ultimately, all cars are products of technology from metal/plastic/carbon etc. Branded cars will command a premium because of the brand value, but for racing purposes the ROI will really be a measure of performance versus cost.

 

In any case, the "stock" Veyron is still not beaten by the "mod" R35 yet.

 

 

 

Nope, definitely not simply a state of mind.

 

As i said, from one thin line of perspective, i would be agreeable to compare stock versus modded.

however, it would not be a comparison of sheer performance or which car is better, or faster and then making a stand base on the result.

rather it would be more of a comparison as a benchmarking exercise.

 

 

[Chrispie]

so just ask nissan to sell it 100k more expensive with the mods as standards.. so its stock vs stock rite?

[Riceracer]

Aiyo.... mod cars how to compare. You can make a Chery QQ to outrun Veyron if money is no object.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8bL0mq-JB0

 

This 70s street legal Vauxhall has 2200hp and does 0-60mph in 1s. Quarter mile in 7.45s at 197mph