Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 no.... i have nothing against pilots.... but i can't help but wonder, what are the technological progress in airplane engineering there for??? waste of money and resources??? and it's been statistically proven that 50% of air-crashes are caused by pilot error.... so if you remove the pilots, you'd have reduced air-disasters by 50% leah.... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 On 9/12/2010 at 11:05 AM, Bonjoey said: if you wanna die, you can die somewhere else...there are many others on the plane who do not wanna die with you...especially knowing that you are not the pilot and you are taking control of the aircraft... it seems more like you have a "hate" thing against the pilots rather than being pro pilot-less travel... got rejected in pilot interview? many times? haha...school starting tml... hi Jerry.... you also in MCF??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonjoey 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 ok, i like this reply, at least it doesnt sound frivolous. So, let's discuss healthily... you said that 99% of the time, u dun need the pilot.... which 99% of the time is this? and u said, unlike the 70s , there is no need for 2 pilots... well back then there are more than 2 of them in the cockpit; there were the engineer, the navigator, the 2 pilots and sometimes even 3.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 yes.... in the 70's, there were the Captain, co-pilot, navigator and engineer.... now there's still the flight engineer, but he's not in the cockpit, so is the navigator (that job has been covered by the Flight Navigation and data plan, as well as the pilots).... but it was more of dedicating the job, rather than cutting back on resources.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 99% of the time is on most flights, during straight and level and circling.... in fact, on some modern planes, take off and landing.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 that's the fact about technologies.... it's there already, but it takes changes in policies and encouragement and support from the various government and leaders around the world to implement it.... cos one of the problem is redundancies in human labour.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonjoey 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 during straight and level flight, aka crusing, the aircraft's autopilot do just one thing, fly the plane. the pilot, like you say, being the navigator, tells it where to fly. If the pilot inputs rubbish in the Flight Management Computer (FMC), the plane will will not fly to the intended destination. One example is the recent case of the 2 American pilots "debating" in the cockpit and the airplane overshot its destination, because they did not initiate descent, ie ask the autopilot to descent. Also read the case of the Indian pilots who fell asleep and the plane just fly straight ahead after its last waypoint. and it will possibly fly until fuel runs out if the pilots did not wake up in time. and during cruise, if there is thunderstorm clouds and other inclement weather, the airplane will just fly straight thru it if there is no intervention by the pilots. so while u are having ur nice nap in the cabin or enjoying your inflight entertainment, the pilots are actually looking for clear weather routings or fighting the inclement weather to ensure the airplane emerge unscath. But you would not know, cos like you say, no one sees where the pilots are thanks to 9/11). there might be and there usually are technical issues that occur during cruises which the pilots are managing and rectifying all without the passengers' knowledge. It is very often that after a major incident, when the passengers are being interviewed on the ground, that they say they completely do not know something happened on the flight, and that the pilot handled it well. For example the recent case in US where the captain suffered a heart attack and the First officer landed the plane. It was a medical emergency but to the passengers, it was a normal flight to them and they did not know and feel any difference in the flight due to the way the First Offcier conducted the flight, which did not come naturally or by any chance of automation but by hours of training. during circling, as u call it....the airplane is actually under radar vectors. the autopilot as mentioned just fly the plane. if u dun tell the airplane which direction to fly, it will not change directions but fly straight. hence, no circling. hence during circling, the pilots actually are actually at work. but of cos you would not know, sitting in the cabin sipping your Moet. no aircraft as yet does a auto-takeoff , as far as i know, not even the latest A380s or fighter jets. as for autolands, they are conducted in very bad weather and low visibility situations. as far as i know, pilots rather land the plane themselves then autoland. but for safetly reasons and mandated by aviation laws, during such situations, an autoland is called for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 dude.... the A380 can even taxi on itself.... the control tower sends a signal to the A380, the onboard computer knows which runway it'll be taking and at what time (wait for how long, what's the sequence of take off etc).... you didn't know it don't you??? and yes, it has auto-take off.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 and if the Pilot enters the correct data in the FMC, the plane will do accordingly at each point in time.... usually the pilot will fill in all the data required for the journey, but it's correctable at many stages during the flight.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 and you've also recognised pilot errors etc, which didn't showcase professional duties of a pilot.... though the flight was never in danger of a crash, still.... you've paid to train and paid a pilot to do the job.... but not all are doing it properly in accordance to FAA you know??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonjoey 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 (edited) "dude.... the A380 can even taxi on itself.... the control tower sends a signal to the A380, the onboard computer knows which runway it'll be taking and at what time (wait for how long, what's the sequence of take off etc).... you didn't know it don't you??? and yes, it has auto-take off.... " wahahahahahaha dude...you played too much flight simulator....stop making a fool out of yourself... Edited September 12, 2010 by Bonjoey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 (edited) Kids, now you not only talk nonsense about car, you also talk nonsense about plane.... You forget on the others thread that you making fool of yourself..... brake pad change at 150k, tyre cahnge at 10k...etc....... Tomorrow school re-open already, go and pack your bag and ready to go back to school.. Edited September 12, 2010 by Tohto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 On 9/12/2010 at 12:22 PM, Tohto said: Kids, now you not only talk nonsense about car, you also talk nonsense about plane.... You forget on the others thread that you making fool of yourself..... brake pad change at 150k, tyre cahnge at 10k...etc....... Tomorrow school re-open already, go and pack your bag and ready to go back to school.. hi Jane.... looking forward to meeting up with you tomorrow??? in school??? [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 dude.... i don't play flight simulators.... here's the link.... http://744.hoppie.nl/forum.cgi/noframes/read/16553 though it's more of auto-braking and taxing off the run-way.... [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 you're the one making a fool of yourself by denying the existence of technologies.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 On 9/12/2010 at 12:26 PM, Ferraricalifornia said: hi Jane.... looking forward to meeting up with you tomorrow??? in school??? [laugh] When I last attend school more than 20yrs ago, not sure where are you :angry: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leok777 Clutched September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 wow I didn't know the A380 can taxi by itself? Thats a new one......Which flight manual did u get this info from?......Cartoon Network? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leok777 Clutched September 12, 2010 Share September 12, 2010 On 9/12/2010 at 12:28 PM, Ferraricalifornia said: dude.... i don't play flight simulators.... here's the link.... http://744.hoppie.nl/forum.cgi/noframes/read/16553 though it's more of auto-braking and taxing off the run-way.... [laugh] That's just the autobrake system adjusting the amount of brake applications coupled with the reverse thrust so that it will slow down the aircraft sufficiently so that the PILOT can taxi off the runway at the appointed exit......Just in case u reading a different manual ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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