GCT: Aim For Zero Vehicular Growth

[Eyke]

This clown Lim Wee Kiak, come from where?

Ask this fella go to Jurong East MRT every morning and spread out their travel with discounts and see how easy it is before tokking kok and trying to act smart.

 

he is CEO type + MP somemore,

where got go MRT one?

[Latka]

Instead of reducing the COE quota & making it more expensive to own a car. They should just increase the min. downpayment to 30% & reduce the max. loan period to 5 yrs. This will be a better way to prevent people from over-borrowing.

 

The last thing the Government want to see is with high COE prices like $100K, the B&B car is selling for $150K & people can't afford to buy car will use their vote to show their unhappiness.

 

When dey removed the 70% rule, dey were helping d banks back then which weren't doing too well. If dey were to re-introduce this rule, banks jia sai.

In dis small island, the banks and the oil companies are very well protected as can be seen dat dey are immune to so called anti-competition law.

[Albeniz]

PRs who don't convert to citizen will not have their PRship renewed...

 

If this were true, many PRs will no longer stay in this country. Before they leave, many will have to sell their cars and the road will be less congested. This will bring down the COE price.

[Tigerwoods]

I totally support ZERO Growth for Passenger Cars, now, if possible.

We have really limited land space to build more roads, widen them.

The problem is why increase so many COEs the last few years and say sori wrong estimation and then now say ZERO growth ?

This is another one of those REACTIVE issues that I see very often these days.

 

Frankly its so easy to control the car population since 1990. Money gets in the way of decision making.

 

Its not difficult to solve the Crunch in MRT. The leaked MRT future map we see circulating around is the answer to all our problems.

More MRT Stations = spreading out the commuters more evenly as they can have more choices to choose their train route home. with more MRT stations, you also distribute the population better.

 

If that map actually materialise, heck, I'll sell my car and take the train.

 

My requests :

a. Pls, build a total MRT network to cover every town, estate, kampong, also JB and Batam.

b. for every completion in adding the MRT stations, reduce the COE qty progressively.

c. When the MRT stations reaches a coverage of 80% of our island, ZERO Car growth.

d. When full MRT completion - start reducing Vehicles. Add buses, and commercial vehicles.

e. During such times, construct Bicylce lanes, reduce COE for petrol/diesel vehilces, replace with COEs for Hybird or green/Solarpower ones.

[Vulcann]

One suggestion has been for public transport operators to offer fare discounts for travel during off-peak hours, as this is likely to tackle the problem of overcrowding in trains.

 

Dr Lim Wee Kiak said that with discounts, more people would consider spreading out their travel. "So there would be spaces for everyone," he said.

 

This clown Lim Wee Kiak, come from where? Spread out travel? Can go to work suka-suka during off-peak period, to "spread out travel"? The boss, will spread out your pants and give you a kick in the butt out of the office, if you don't come to work on time. "Spread out travel... yeah, right...

 

Ask this fella go to Jurong East MRT every morning and spread out their travel with discounts and see how easy it is before tokking kok and trying to act smart.

 

Bro PI,

 

Hehe your "interesting" reaction similar to mine. Was telling my CO just now how nice we could just call my boss and say," hey boss ah, today they say mrt 10.30am then no crowd so i come 11 plus hor."

 

[Swqwe]

I totally support ZERO Growth for Passenger Cars, now, if possible.

We have really limited land space to build more roads, widen them.

The problem is why increase so many COEs the last few years and say sori wrong estimation and then now say ZERO growth ?

This is another one of those REACTIVE issues that I see very often these days.

 

Frankly its so easy to control the car population since 1990. Money gets in the way of decision making.

 

Its not difficult to solve the Crunch in MRT. The leaked MRT future map we see circulating around is the answer to all our problems.

More MRT Stations = spreading out the commuters more evenly as they can have more choices to choose their train route home. with more MRT stations, you also distribute the population better.

 

If that map actually materialise, heck, I'll sell my car and take the train.

 

My requests :

a. Pls, build a total MRT network to cover every town, estate, kampong, also JB and Batam.

b. for every completion in adding the MRT stations, reduce the COE qty progressively.

c. When the MRT stations reaches a coverage of 80% of our island, ZERO Car growth.

d. When full MRT completion - start reducing Vehicles. Add buses, and commercial vehicles.

e. During such times, construct Bicylce lanes, reduce COE for petrol/diesel vehilces, replace with COEs for Hybird or green/Solarpower ones.

 

Frankly speaking, even if the map actually materialise, i will still want to own a car [blush]

[Duckduck]

they tok so much, how abt president & PM lead the way by taking mrt or bus to national day parade first?

 

question is: wat is the optimal car numbers such that productivity isnt affected?

 

Our GDP is still growing 3-5% p.a., if stop car numbers, how will this affect GDP? transport is major part of business here. Can the garmen please answer this at least this first?

[Blackyv]

One suggestion has been for public transport operators to offer fare discounts for travel during off-peak hours, as this is likely to tackle the problem of overcrowding in trains.

 

Dr Lim Wee Kiak said that with discounts, more people would consider spreading out their travel. "So there would be spaces for everyone," he said.

 

This clown Lim Wee Kiak, come from where? Spread out travel? Can go to work suka-suka during off-peak period, to "spread out travel"? The boss, will spread out your pants and give you a kick in the butt out of the office, if you don't come to work on time. "Spread out travel... yeah, right...

 

Ask this fella go to Jurong East MRT every morning and spread out their travel with discounts and see how easy it is before tokking kok and trying to act smart.

 

 

http://www.eagleeyecentre.com.sg/eye-docto...m-wee-kiak.html

 

http://www.youngpap.org.sg/index.php?optio...2&Itemid=28

 

[Vulcann]

they tok so much, how abt president & PM lead the way by taking mrt or bus to national day parade first?

 

Remembered present ROC First Lady still take public transport to work even though her hubby was elected the president...

 

And the ROC President himself also took public transport quite a few times to 探访民情(find out how common folks are feeling)...Maybe it is all wayang but at least they tried...

[Chinablue]

Remembered present ROC First Lady still take public transport to work even though her hubby was elected the president...

 

And the ROC President himself also took public transport quite a few times to 探访民情(find out how common folks are feeling)...Maybe it is all wayang but at least they tried...

 

sorry, here those VVIP clowns love to cause traffic jam everywhere they go, with their TP bikes motorcade everyday, everytime , whenever and wherever they are on the road halting the traffic flow.

just 1 bloody motorcade of those clowns is enough to cause some serious traffic jam repercussion.

 

 

[Chinablue]

they tok so much, how abt president & PM lead the way by taking mrt or bus to national day parade first?

 

question is: wat is the optimal car numbers such that productivity isnt affected?

 

Our GDP is still growing 3-5% p.a., if stop car numbers, how will this affect GDP? transport is major part of business here. Can the garmen please answer this at least this first?

 

zero car growth is impossible, absolute rubbish from someone with high IQ.

 

1 - zero growth = all the ADs will have zero sales.

2 - only 2nd car dealers will be able to sustain in that case.

3 - ADs to go into resale mkt and wipe off those 2nd car dealers?

 

 

[Nose85]

comfot Delgro

smrt

 

must be not generating enough profit

 

how to rely on public transport when the service is like kena sai

[Friendstar]

just bring back 30% down payment rule lor. Since it is already used to curb housing, will work on cars too. car price may drop u know.

 

 

then people will complain about the wealth divide

 

between the haves and the have not

[Friendstar]

zero car growth is impossible, absolute rubbish from someone with high IQ.

 

1 - zero growth = all the ADs will have zero sales.

2 - only 2nd car dealers will be able to sustain in that case.

3 - ADs to go into resale mkt and wipe off those 2nd car dealers?

 

 

do u know what's the meaning of zero growth?

[Friendstar]

I totally support ZERO Growth for Passenger Cars, now, if possible.

We have really limited land space to build more roads, widen them.

The problem is why increase so many COEs the last few years and say sori wrong estimation and then now say ZERO growth ?

 

 

 

ERP

[Chinablue]

do u know what's the meaning of zero growth?

 

if i am wrong then what's does the zero growth means in this case?

pls enlighten me.

 

[Chinablue]

ERP

 

ERP doesn't help much in curbing increasing new car ownership.

ERP generally is moving a problem from here to another place and so on, by building ERP on everyone of them in succession until the whole island got full coverage.

 

The only effective thing is COE. this, i admit is one of the most successful invention from our MIWs.

[Ladykillerz]

actually if you observed carefully, during peak hour in highways, there are more big vehicles than cars.

big vehicles like lorries, vans, trucks, etc.

and one big vehicle can easily occupied 1.5 to 2 times of the road length usage.

 

our govt should instead think of more ways to counter such traffic congestion.

big vehicles are meant for goods transportation and is there really a need to travel during peak hours?

 

i think this measure is more reasonable.

Edited September 9, 2010 by Ladykillerz