Marathons in Singapore

[BanCoe]

On 12/2/2024 at 10:40 AM, Spidey10 said:

heart willing, legs not willing.....my arch have collapse completely,..causing ankle pain...dr says need surgery, but i anin't into surgery and went to a feet shop and they recommended me in soles.....so far the ankle pain is gone and i can walk normally and jog slowly now....heck went hiking up to Monserrat in spain with the insoles and a few other places....i swear the in soles works for me for now!..

I suppose you are talking about the heel arch right (not the back bone one??) ......... this if its the heel its very important to take care ..... remember Archilles Heel..you may be having a pronation issue also to start with..... so the sole thingy might help  ... Swimming is the best .... but I hate it , though  

 

[Spidey10]

On 12/2/2024 at 11:53 AM, BanCoe said:

I suppose you are talking about the heel arch right (not the back bone one??) ......... this if its the heel its very important to take care ..... remember Archilles Heel..you may be having a pronation issue also to start with..... so the sole thingy might help  ... Swimming is the best .... but I hate it , though  

 

yes, heel....and yes, pronation and deformed toes as well....started for me liao...

in sole helped a lot....now i have 3 pairs of shoes with those removable in soles....actually well worth the cost....

yes, Drs also told me to do swiming ratehr than jogging and sports games...but i dun really like swimming leh...i am into badminton and running and occasional tennis guy...when i was in school, even worse...i have my leg in most of the sports games...

[Ender]

On 12/2/2024 at 9:58 AM, inlinesix said:

Correcting the running gait will prolong your active days.

No such thing as too old to change.

@Ender did a lot of changes over the years to hit PBs.

I have since stop concerning myself with running form for a long time. My current belief is base building is the reason behind resilience towards injuries. Other benefits are mitochondrial health which leads to metabolic health.

How to base build is one spend a significant amount of time running in easy. Most people would call these runs junk miles coz they are really not siong. When you end your easy run days, it felt like you only exercise a little bit. But cumulatively, these easy runs make up the most of my weekly or yearly mileage. I only really trained (siong) run two times a week, one at high intensity and  another day is endurance, where I run a little longer than my easy days.

 

[Ender]

Interesting Stats.

https://www.threads.net/@baylequek/post/DDDAHZxTZID?xmt=AQGzD9pqACHDi-XA_m-rguZV8mrleMVGqegjGp21FERcV8g

 

Edited December 2, 2024 by Ender

[BanCoe]

On 12/2/2024 at 3:48 PM, Ender said:

Interesting Stats.

https://www.threads.net/@baylequek/post/DDDAHZxTZID?xmt=AQGzD9pqACHDi-XA_m-rguZV8mrleMVGqegjGp21FERcV8g

 

Interesting facts …… the Indonesians were strong and sporting ….. even got their own cheerleaders and photographers too …… power to them for being so sporty …. And salute the 26 uncles and 3 aunties in the 70 age category though I don’t know if they Kenna DNF  due to 7:30cut off time 

Edited December 2, 2024 by BanCoe

[Ender]

On 12/2/2024 at 4:45 PM, BanCoe said:

Interesting facts …… the Indonesians were strong and sporting ….. even got their own cheerleaders and photographers too …… power to them for being so sporty …. And salute the 26 uncles and 3 aunties in the 70 age category though I don’t know if they Kenna DNF  due to 7:30cut off time 

The 26 uncles and 3 aunties are finishers. They got their tee shirt.

So next time you see a senior in the market wearing the SCSM finisher tree shirt, it could very well be theirs, not from their grand children, LOL.

 

Edited December 2, 2024 by Ender

[inlinesix]

 

[BanCoe]

On 12/3/2024 at 6:57 AM, inlinesix said:

 

I did my Olympic standard Trialthlon about 17 years back …… but because of one casualty ( young kid from RJC) died during swimming transition leg ….. my balls shrunk after that ….. His name was Thaddeus …. name is etched in my hard drive 

[Sosaria]

On 12/2/2024 at 3:47 PM, Ender said:

I have since stop concerning myself with running form for a long time. My current belief is base building is the reason behind resilience towards injuries. Other benefits are mitochondrial health which leads to metabolic health.

How to base build is one spend a significant amount of time running in easy. Most people would call these runs junk miles coz they are really not siong. When you end your easy run days, it felt like you only exercise a little bit. But cumulatively, these easy runs make up the most of my weekly or yearly mileage. I only really trained (siong) run two times a week, one at high intensity and  another day is endurance, where I run a little longer than my easy days.

 

Agree with you, take it easy is key. Especially if have problems like pronation that make it just not possible to have natural beautiful stride and gait. Will always suffer injury if push.

There are those people who are fortunate to have feet and legs all aligned swee swee, when they take up running seriously, they improve very very fast. 

[Ender]

On 12/3/2024 at 8:13 AM, BanCoe said:

I did my Olympic standard Trialthlon about 17 years back …… but because of one casualty ( young kid from RJC) died during swimming transition leg ….. my balls shrunk after that ….. His name was Thaddeus …. name is etched in my hard drive 

I remember that incident. Young and promising.

[Atonchia]

On 12/2/2024 at 9:54 AM, Spidey10 said:

yes, my gait is wrong....but too old to change liao...damage done, 

my injuries are due to my younger days activities....knee koyak in my 20's...

 

On 12/2/2024 at 9:58 AM, inlinesix said:

Correcting the running gait will prolong your active days.

No such thing as too old to change.

@Ender did a lot of changes over the years to hit PBs.

 

My knees were quite bad a year ago. Now much better but still didn't run much, can do squat in gym, now I go gym twice a week. 

But I have problem getting up without using hand when doing full oriental squat, for example if I squat fully at supermarket aisle looking at lowest shelf... I can't stand up directly without using hand.

No problem with cycling or short run.

[Spidey10]

On 12/3/2024 at 2:32 PM, Ender said:

I remember that incident. Young and promising.

 

On 12/3/2024 at 8:13 AM, BanCoe said:

I did my Olympic standard Trialthlon about 17 years back …… but because of one casualty ( young kid from RJC) died during swimming transition leg ….. my balls shrunk after that ….. His name was Thaddeus …. name is etched in my hard drive 

i was training at ECP also encounter with an unker that collapse near to Jumbo ...passerby called an ambulance ...after that encounter, didn't hear anything about the uncle ...but for me and my running buddies, we really slowed down....really not worth to chiong...

after that incident, whoever wanna overtake me and challenge who can run faster, please go ahead....i run at my leisurely pace and enjoy the view and pple...

[inlinesix]

On 12/3/2024 at 4:15 PM, Atonchia said:

My knees were quite bad a year ago. Now much better but still didn't run much, can do squat in gym, now I go gym twice a week. 

But I have problem getting up without using hand when doing full oriental squat, for example if I squat fully at supermarket aisle looking at lowest shelf... I can't stand up directly without using hand.

No problem with cycling or short run.

For squating, quad muscle is used to stand up.

[inlinesix]

On 12/3/2024 at 4:20 PM, Spidey10 said:

 

i was training at ECP also encounter with an unker that collapse near to Jumbo ...passerby called an ambulance ...after that encounter, didn't hear anything about the uncle ...but for me and my running buddies, we really slowed down....really not worth to chiong...

after that incident, whoever wanna overtake me and challenge who can run faster, please go ahead....i run at my leisurely pace and enjoy the view and pple...

It can happens when the person was doing slow jog.

If scare, get your heart checked.

I have a biennial appointment with Cardiologist.  So that i can cheong.

[Atonchia]

On 12/3/2024 at 4:50 PM, inlinesix said:

For squating, quad muscle is used to stand up.

Yes I am building up / strengthening the quads... So normal running and cycling kind of movement angle still ok... used to get pain at ligament just below + above knee cap, now recovered.

Once I squat fully and remain stationary, ie 10s then have problem standing up 😅...

[Spidey10]

On 12/3/2024 at 4:52 PM, inlinesix said:

It can happens when the person was doing slow jog.

If scare, get your heart checked.

I have a biennial appointment with Cardiologist.  So that i can cheong.

when chiong....chances are higher and everything is elevated..BP, heartrate....slow jog, think is not as bad as chiong...

nowadays I just slow jog from Bedok jetty to NSCC and come back....easily 6-7km...and if I am in the mood to do more, I will do a big loop at Punggol and cover coney island as well....nicely above 10km...

Edited December 3, 2024 by Spidey10

[Ender]

The last leg is the West Coast Highway where is a stretch of more than 7km of unshaded path. The sun was brutal after 9:30am. 

https://tnp.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/last-leg-years-route-was-insane-stanchart-marathon-runners

Last leg of this year's route was insane: StanChart marathon runners

A participant died and there were others who had to be taken to hospital for medical attention on the last day of this year's Standard Chartered Singapore Marathon.

 

The StanChart Singapore Marathon, which ran from Nov 29 to Dec 1, attracted over 55,000 runners – up from more than 44,000 in the 2023 edition. 

At about 10am on Dec 1, TNP was informed that a participant was in serious need of medical assistance. It is unknown if the person mentioned by the medical personnel was the same one who died in hospital later.

But that individual was not the only one who needed medical assistance.

According to Associate Professor Kenneth Tan of Singapore General Hospital, 20 participants from the event needed medical attention at the hospital.

"Our Emergency Department (ED) received 20 patients from the Standard Chartered Singapore Marathon on Dec 1, the majority of whom were promptly treated for heat-related injuries," said the head of Department of Emergency Medicine.

Singapore

The new route for the annual event apparently was tough on runners, even seasoned marathoners.

"The sun was brutal after the 30km mark, which is typically the most gruelling stretch of a marathon as runners have expended all their energy. The route was unshaded and I struggled despite my experience," a seasoned runner, who has participated in numerous marathons both locally and overseas, told TNP.

"That final stretch, without any shade for tired runners, was crazy in the Singapore heat. Not everyone can run Soh Rui Yong's speed and clear that stretch before the sun rose."

Soh crossed the finish line at Anderson Bridge in 2hr 46min 5sec.

Another seasoned marathoner, who works in the education sector, said: "It was so bad in the last 15 km... I couldn't stop because the heat from the road was hitting me. I thought I was going to throw up."

First-time StanChart marathoner Amos Lim, 19, echoed the sentiment. The NSF trained for the marathon for around a year, having participated in several 10km and half-marathon races this year. However, he still found this year's race tough.

"This year's route was honestly quite insane, not one but two crazy upslopes on separate highways at the 10km and 32km mark," he said. 

Lim mentioned he had to trudge up the second upslope at West Coast highway and finished the final 10km with a run-walk sequence.

He added: "Even though there were downslopes, they were still taxing on the legs as strength is still required to break yourself from falling forward and going too fast downhill, which makes the slopes even more brutal."

Lim took some precautions to ensure he completed the marathon safely. 

"Pre-race, I carbohydrate-loaded to maximise my body’s glycogen levels. During the run, I made sure to cool myself down with the ice stations and the cold water baths," he shared.

"I consumed only well-tested gels and food during my training, this kept me on pace without suffering heat stroke or rhabdomyolysis."

Lee Meng Liang, a seasoned runner who has run every edition of the StanChart Singapore Marathon since 2004,  felt the last 10km of the route was a "bad idea".

The social worker said organisers should have substituted the unsheltered West Coast Highway with a route under the highway.

"The highway could provide the much-needed shade. Ideally you do not want your runners to be exposed to the sun at such a late stage of the run as most runners would be dehydrated at that point and this increases the possibility of heat injuries," he said.

He added that relocating the West Coast Highway segment of the route beneath the highway instead of running on it could have made this year's route "one of the best" in the event's history.

heed warnings of physical distress

Marathons, especially in Singapore’s tropical climate, come with inherent health risks, particularly for individuals with underlying conditions, said Professor Tan Huay Cheem, senior consultant at the Department of Cardiology of National University Heart Centre, Singapore.

“People with underlying heart conditions such as coronary artery disease or abnormal heart rhythms (arrhythmias) can be at risk of heart attack or cardiac arrest during intense endurance activities,” explained the professor at the Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine, National University of Singapore..

“It is extremely critical for runners to heed warning signs of physical distress. Ignoring these signs can lead to potential immediate harm or long-term health consequences."

Prof Tan highlighted the physiological strain runners face in Singapore's climate, particularly in the last leg of a race.

“The combination of heat, dehydration and prolonged effort can lead to muscle breakdown (rhabdomyolysis) and kidney damage," he warned.

“Listening to your body during a marathon is as important as your training. Recognising and acting on signs of distress — such as slowing down, hydrating or seeking medical attention — can prevent major catastrophic health crises from happening."

Organisers, he added, should take steps such as scheduling races during cooler periods, providing hydration and cooling stations, and deploying well-trained medical teams.

“By working together, participants and organisers can create a positive and safe experience for everyone."

TNP reached out to Standard Chartered for comments last week.

[BanCoe]

On 12/10/2024 at 12:17 PM, Ender said:

The last leg is the West Coast Highway where is a stretch of more than 7km of unshaded path. The sun was brutal after 9:30am. 

https://tnp.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/last-leg-years-route-was-insane-stanchart-marathon-runners

Last leg of this year's route was insane: StanChart marathon runners

A participant died and there were others who had to be taken to hospital for medical attention on the last day of this year's Standard Chartered Singapore Marathon.

 

The StanChart Singapore Marathon, which ran from Nov 29 to Dec 1, attracted over 55,000 runners – up from more than 44,000 in the 2023 edition. 

At about 10am on Dec 1, TNP was informed that a participant was in serious need of medical assistance. It is unknown if the person mentioned by the medical personnel was the same one who died in hospital later.

But that individual was not the only one who needed medical assistance.

According to Associate Professor Kenneth Tan of Singapore General Hospital, 20 participants from the event needed medical attention at the hospital.

"Our Emergency Department (ED) received 20 patients from the Standard Chartered Singapore Marathon on Dec 1, the majority of whom were promptly treated for heat-related injuries," said the head of Department of Emergency Medicine.

Singapore

The new route for the annual event apparently was tough on runners, even seasoned marathoners.

"The sun was brutal after the 30km mark, which is typically the most gruelling stretch of a marathon as runners have expended all their energy. The route was unshaded and I struggled despite my experience," a seasoned runner, who has participated in numerous marathons both locally and overseas, told TNP.

"That final stretch, without any shade for tired runners, was crazy in the Singapore heat. Not everyone can run Soh Rui Yong's speed and clear that stretch before the sun rose."

Soh crossed the finish line at Anderson Bridge in 2hr 46min 5sec.

Another seasoned marathoner, who works in the education sector, said: "It was so bad in the last 15 km... I couldn't stop because the heat from the road was hitting me. I thought I was going to throw up."

First-time StanChart marathoner Amos Lim, 19, echoed the sentiment. The NSF trained for the marathon for around a year, having participated in several 10km and half-marathon races this year. However, he still found this year's race tough.

"This year's route was honestly quite insane, not one but two crazy upslopes on separate highways at the 10km and 32km mark," he said. 

Lim mentioned he had to trudge up the second upslope at West Coast highway and finished the final 10km with a run-walk sequence.

He added: "Even though there were downslopes, they were still taxing on the legs as strength is still required to break yourself from falling forward and going too fast downhill, which makes the slopes even more brutal."

Lim took some precautions to ensure he completed the marathon safely. 

"Pre-race, I carbohydrate-loaded to maximise my body’s glycogen levels. During the run, I made sure to cool myself down with the ice stations and the cold water baths," he shared.

"I consumed only well-tested gels and food during my training, this kept me on pace without suffering heat stroke or rhabdomyolysis."

Lee Meng Liang, a seasoned runner who has run every edition of the StanChart Singapore Marathon since 2004,  felt the last 10km of the route was a "bad idea".

The social worker said organisers should have substituted the unsheltered West Coast Highway with a route under the highway.

"The highway could provide the much-needed shade. Ideally you do not want your runners to be exposed to the sun at such a late stage of the run as most runners would be dehydrated at that point and this increases the possibility of heat injuries," he said.

He added that relocating the West Coast Highway segment of the route beneath the highway instead of running on it could have made this year's route "one of the best" in the event's history.

heed warnings of physical distress

Marathons, especially in Singapore’s tropical climate, come with inherent health risks, particularly for individuals with underlying conditions, said Professor Tan Huay Cheem, senior consultant at the Department of Cardiology of National University Heart Centre, Singapore.

“People with underlying heart conditions such as coronary artery disease or abnormal heart rhythms (arrhythmias) can be at risk of heart attack or cardiac arrest during intense endurance activities,” explained the professor at the Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine, National University of Singapore..

“It is extremely critical for runners to heed warning signs of physical distress. Ignoring these signs can lead to potential immediate harm or long-term health consequences."

Prof Tan highlighted the physiological strain runners face in Singapore's climate, particularly in the last leg of a race.

“The combination of heat, dehydration and prolonged effort can lead to muscle breakdown (rhabdomyolysis) and kidney damage," he warned.

“Listening to your body during a marathon is as important as your training. Recognising and acting on signs of distress — such as slowing down, hydrating or seeking medical attention — can prevent major catastrophic health crises from happening."

Organisers, he added, should take steps such as scheduling races during cooler periods, providing hydration and cooling stations, and deploying well-trained medical teams.

“By working together, participants and organisers can create a positive and safe experience for everyone."

TNP reached out to Standard Chartered for comments last week.

The last leg is always bad ..even if was Garden by the Bay route and then the killer mile at Benjamin Sheares bridge around 33-35km mark  & then after that suddenly  ...the highway exit spirals down like got no brakes to even slow down (damn dead dangerous ) .......... ( wonder why is Soh complaining about since he would have started around 4'ish plus (elite runners pen A likely) AND finished in less than 3 hours so it would have been before 8am when weather was still tolerable ....... its those around almost 6am pen G .... habis and this are the slower runners taking 6 hours plus so it means coming to 12 noon ....... and the sun around 10 am is quite brutal to be honest

Best is Sundown Marathon starting at Midnight ....... missing it badly..... i think they ran into costing/ financial issues ..... Singapore is just too damn expensive!!!