Little_prince Supersonic September 3, 2010 Share September 3, 2010 aiya... you can't make everyone like you lah... fark it la ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooblack Supercharged September 6, 2010 Author Share September 6, 2010 Your contractor might have denied ALL responsibilities which caused your neighbour to refused any more dealings with him. Like I said earlier, it would be good for everyone, including yourself, to sit down and discuss amicably any way out of this standoff. Come to think of it, maybe a rep from your MC might be a good neutral party to be included as well. Re-consider again. What you hear from others can only be used a background information and not able to do any good during your negotiations with him. Maybe after the goodwill repair work has been carried out, you two might click and you find yourself a new beer buddy cum free ID consultant If however your decision is still to ignore him totally, then so be it. Just remember my earlier points and be prepared to challenge any claims. The other party has to prove beyond doubt technically that the hacking works ACTUALLy caused the cracks. If he has got a PE to back him up, you have to be ready to engage your own PE to prove otherwise. Legally, another bro has brought out very good points already for your further inference. Take care and all the best. My ID met the beng neighbour last weekend. Cannot convince sufficiently that the damage was not due to the racking. He claimed that a PE has taken a look and has not ruled out the possibility. No professional report, I think just verbal comment. He mentioned that in his VAST experience, these things have happened before. For eg. he was hacking on the 7th floor, tiles started to fall off on a 11th floor unit... so, "anything" is possible to him... My ID is still unconvinced. She is not the type that will shrink from rightful responsiblities. In fact, she has always repaired for other of her clients' neighbour, even in general doubts. Guess it is the obsure possibility in this case and the general attitude of the neighbour. Since he is in the same line, we suggested that he should just go ahead and repair. It wont be more than a couple hundreds since the tiles are not expensive (we can just give a goodwill compensation). however, he insists that in the event that it is to repaired, my contractor has to do it. We suspect that once we start repairing for him, there will lots of add-on issue cos the tile replacement will definitely cause some more issues for his cabinets, table top etc. My ID will get a PE to take a look so as to assess the case on our end. See how things go... looks like a long-drawn issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo 2nd Gear September 6, 2010 Share September 6, 2010 My ID met the beng neighbour last weekend. Cannot convince sufficiently that the damage was not due to the racking. He claimed that a PE has taken a look and has not ruled out the possibility. No professional report, I think just verbal comment. He mentioned that in his VAST experience, these things have happened before. For eg. he was hacking on the 7th floor, tiles started to fall off on a 11th floor unit... so, "anything" is possible to him... My ID is still unconvinced. She is not the type that will shrink from rightful responsiblities. In fact, she has always repaired for other of her clients' neighbour, even in general doubts. Guess it is the obsure possibility in this case and the general attitude of the neighbour. Since he is in the same line, we suggested that he should just go ahead and repair. It wont be more than a couple hundreds since the tiles are not expensive (we can just give a goodwill compensation). however, he insists that in the event that it is to repaired, my contractor has to do it. We suspect that once we start repairing for him, there will lots of add-on issue cos the tile replacement will definitely cause some more issues for his cabinets, table top etc. My ID will get a PE to take a look so as to assess the case on our end. See how things go... looks like a long-drawn issue. why even bother? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehive3783 Turbocharged September 6, 2010 Share September 6, 2010 My ID met the beng neighbour last weekend. Cannot convince sufficiently that the damage was not due to the racking. He claimed that a PE has taken a look and has not ruled out the possibility. No professional report, I think just verbal comment. He mentioned that in his VAST experience, these things have happened before. For eg. he was hacking on the 7th floor, tiles started to fall off on a 11th floor unit... so, "anything" is possible to him... My ID is still unconvinced. She is not the type that will shrink from rightful responsiblities. In fact, she has always repaired for other of her clients' neighbour, even in general doubts. Guess it is the obsure possibility in this case and the general attitude of the neighbour. Since he is in the same line, we suggested that he should just go ahead and repair. It wont be more than a couple hundreds since the tiles are not expensive (we can just give a goodwill compensation). however, he insists that in the event that it is to repaired, my contractor has to do it. We suspect that once we start repairing for him, there will lots of add-on issue cos the tile replacement will definitely cause some more issues for his cabinets, table top etc. My ID will get a PE to take a look so as to assess the case on our end. See how things go... looks like a long-drawn issue. I wouldn't give a damn over a simple verbal comment. If you are so kind to fix the tile for him on your account, then go ahead. But you may be opening up for more claims from him in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatthe 1st Gear September 6, 2010 Share September 6, 2010 My ID met the beng neighbour last weekend. Cannot convince sufficiently that the damage was not due to the racking. He claimed that a PE has taken a look and has not ruled out the possibility. No professional report, I think just verbal comment. He mentioned that in his VAST experience, these things have happened before. For eg. he was hacking on the 7th floor, tiles started to fall off on a 11th floor unit... so, "anything" is possible to him... My ID is still unconvinced. She is not the type that will shrink from rightful responsiblities. In fact, she has always repaired for other of her clients' neighbour, even in general doubts. Guess it is the obsure possibility in this case and the general attitude of the neighbour. Since he is in the same line, we suggested that he should just go ahead and repair. It wont be more than a couple hundreds since the tiles are not expensive (we can just give a goodwill compensation). however, he insists that in the event that it is to repaired, my contractor has to do it. We suspect that once we start repairing for him, there will lots of add-on issue cos the tile replacement will definitely cause some more issues for his cabinets, table top etc. My ID will get a PE to take a look so as to assess the case on our end. See how things go... looks like a long-drawn issue. Why bother wasting money engaging a PE and talking to this 'ID'. Get him to give you the contact number of the PE who has taken a look. Find out who this PE is. If the PE really says that it is because of your renovation works, he has to come out with a report with his stamp of approval. I doubt this dubious PE even exists. When a PE stamp down his name and registration number, he undertakes all responsibility. He puts his name on the line. And if at any point of time you feel the PE's claim is far-fetch, complain to the PE board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooblack Supercharged September 6, 2010 Author Share September 6, 2010 Why bother wasting money engaging a PE and talking to this 'ID'. Get him to give you the contact number of the PE who has taken a look. Find out who this PE is. If the PE really says that it is because of your renovation works, he has to come out with a report with his stamp of approval. I doubt this dubious PE even exists. When a PE stamp down his name and registration number, he undertakes all responsibility. He puts his name on the line. And if at any point of time you feel the PE's claim is far-fetch, complain to the PE board. My ID has decided to put a stop on all these nonsense. She enquired with a few PEs and none even bother to wish to come and take a look. Cause no chance that it is due to the hacking in my unit. I am extremely skeptical on the neighbour's PE claims. In any case, the report wont be able to conclusively link the damage to the hacking. Cos there can be remote possibility but certaintly cannot be conclusive evidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiario 5th Gear September 6, 2010 Share September 6, 2010 just let your ID handle him. tat time i replace my floor tiles, my neighbour below also complained his house false ceiling crack etc. I told him nicely to contact my contractor as he is the one liable for all damages, not me. he never contact me again coz he know i not bothered, but my contractor did some repair works for him out of goodwill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freestylers09 5th Gear September 6, 2010 Share September 6, 2010 Structure inspection if he can get confirmation report from Setsco then good if not PE alone,they wont suga suga endorse things just like that..thier rice bowl.. unless they use various method to test this n that to write a report etc a small claim,who will spend such amount to do all these?? no chop just say is useless one la..just see what he will do lor.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooblack Supercharged September 6, 2010 Author Share September 6, 2010 Structure inspection if he can get confirmation report from Setsco then good if not PE alone,they wont suga suga endorse things just like that..thier rice bowl.. unless they use various method to test this n that to write a report etc a small claim,who will spend such amount to do all these?? no chop just say is useless one la..just see what he will do lor.. ya loh.. so small case, making a mountain out of a mole... best thing is that he is in this line.. he and I know that it only probably cost at most 100 -200 bucks to get it done (Cost). Dunno why must make things so difficult... the PE fees and report will easily cost more than these... unless he really so free and wish to vindicate himself... only a bo-liao person will go thru the trouble lah... Until today, my ID and I myself cannot convince ourselves that we damaged his tiles... so many walls, beams along the way... only that particular wall tiles were damaged... not 100% impossible but definitely very remotely possible... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi 1st Gear September 6, 2010 Share September 6, 2010 Wait for your neighbour to finish his repair, then tell him that his repair has resulted in some cracks or faults in your home as well. So you are also goin gto "go after him". If your reno works can affect his unit, then why will his reno works not affect your unit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Clutched September 6, 2010 Share September 6, 2010 never hear of this before... crazy lah Like that those landed who tear down and rebuilt must pay for the repair cost for the whole row of terrace house.... Exactly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged January 16, 2018 Share January 16, 2018 (edited) don't want to start new thread so ride on here ... I guess all would have heard about the cracking tiles over several locations in SG over the past few days ? some say due to cold weather ... anyway, was wondering, would it not have happened if thicker tiles were used instead ? ** btw, this happened at my workplace also ... when they were building a new warehouse beside our whse, they might had done some strong piling works that resulted in the wall falling off the façade of our building !! and it was the country manager's office's wall - about 1m x 1 m !! Edited January 16, 2018 by Ysc3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear January 16, 2018 Share January 16, 2018 IMHO, usually is the workmanship. a) my neighbour's "bomb shelter" with smaller and thicker tiles also "popped" b) my units in my block already "popped" ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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