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http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/08/26/po...afie-gohs-case/

 

A Singapore Police NSman Mr Abdillah Zamzuri has been called up for questioning by his reservist unit for blogging on the controversial case involving Lianhe Wanbao photo-journalist Mr Shafie Goh.

 

Mr Shafie Goh was handcuffed by a police officer a month ago when taking photos of flooding at Upper Bukit Timah Road, sparking a massive outcry among Singaporeans.

 

The Singapore Police Force did not issue a public statement to clarify what happened,but Law Minister Mr Shanmugam told Parliament two weeks ago that Mr Goh was handcuffed for his own

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Yes.. feels like they are practicing the small details like how to trace, how to make house call, how to apprehend, etc. In preparation for something big.

 

I mean they need some kuching kurat small cases to run thru their system, to iron out all the kinks and get the SOP finetunedm so that it will be all system goes when the big event comes.

 

 

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If this article is real, then all Male Sinkies who are still Reservist will be at risk of going against their unit. Army guys cannot write about Mindef blander?

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If this article is real, then all Male Sinkies who are still Reservist will be at risk of going against their unit. Army guys cannot write about Mindef blander?

 

 

i believe all males in reservist or NSF have to practise due diligence. Things we do in Army or police are best not review to the public less the enemies can make use of it.

 

things you might terms as insignificant to us can be pieces together by experts to make a complete picture of what is going on.

 

furthermore, its better for them to catch the small issue and servce as a warning rather than wait till a major information is being leak before they have any action.

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If this article is real, then all Male Sinkies who are still Reservist will be at risk of going against their unit. Army guys cannot write about Mindef blander?

 

not necessary only NSmen.. applies to ALL.. including foreigners also....

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i believe all males in reservist or NSF have to practise due diligence. Things we do in Army or police are best not review to the public less the enemies can make use of it.

 

things you might terms as insignificant to us can be pieces together by experts to make a complete picture of what is going on.

 

furthermore, its better for them to catch the small issue and servce as a warning rather than wait till a major information is being leak before they have any action.

 

agree. ;)

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i believe all males in reservist or NSF have to practise due diligence. Things we do in Army or police are best not review to the public less the enemies can make use of it.

 

things you might terms as insignificant to us can be pieces together by experts to make a complete picture of what is going on.

 

furthermore, its better for them to catch the small issue and servce as a warning rather than wait till a major information is being leak before they have any action.

 

So you're saying making use of a situation to penalise someone unjustifiably (even if its legally correct) just to set an example is alright? Mind you, the dude was posting his viewpoint as a civilian on what was published in the papers. You might as well say terrorists who kill civilians to serve as an example is alright....

 

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my view of NS... pros and cons

 

pros:

change boys into men, instil patriotism, beef up the fitness

 

cons:

during NS get blangla pay, some risk involved, easily tio charged, learn to chao keng and bo chup, 2 years behind FT peers

after ORD still need to go back for ICTs, after ORD if post wrong opinions may be tio charged again :D

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So you're saying making use of a situation to penalise someone unjustifiably (even if its legally correct) just to set an example is alright? Mind you, the dude was posting his viewpoint as a civilian on what was published in the papers. You might as well say terrorists who kill civilians to serve as an example is alright....

 

 

If its legally correct, how could it be deem as Unjustifiably?

 

Anyway, you distorted my msg by placing terrorist talk inside. <_<

 

BTW, FYI. NS police or NS PI will be hold double the responsiblities by SPF as per clarify to them when they join NS as Police or PI. as they are ppl who deemed to be someone who know the law. And they do hold this responsiblities even if they had ORD or ROD.

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So you're saying making use of a situation to penalise someone unjustifiably (even if its legally correct) just to set an example is alright? Mind you, the dude was posting his viewpoint as a civilian on what was published in the papers. You might as well say terrorists who kill civilians to serve as an example is alright....

 

Didn't he say in post that he is NS Police? So as soon as say that is not a civilian - he is stepping into "official comment" territory which is not wise - particularly when still active.

 

I can totally understand the charge - he is commenting from his position and "criticising" his supperiors, doesn't look good on anyone involved. He was basically foolish....

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There is PGO against such things la.

 

Even in pte sector, if you identify yourself as employee of ABC Ltd and then say something like SUE the DAMN ABC Ltd. Sure kenna from HR & your boss one what.

 

What makes him think as a reservist PO he can say such things about the SPF?

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If its legally correct, how could it be deem as Unjustifiably?

 

Anyway, you distorted my msg by placing terrorist talk inside. <_<

 

BTW, FYI. NS police or NS PI will be hold double the responsiblities by SPF as per clarify to them when they join NS as Police or PI. as they are ppl who deemed to be someone who know the law. And they do hold this responsiblities even if they had ORD or ROD.

 

Did I distort it? It's what you said using a different scenario [:p] I don't know if the charges will hold either. Unlike offenses under the OSA in which you're bound regardless of if you're serving or not, they're basically charging him for discrediting the SPF which you can do as a civilian but not as a PO. Since he's not a police officer when off reservist duties (no warrant card, police powers, etc), its legality is still debatable, esp since the Police Force Act only applies "(b) in the case of an operationally ready national serviceman enlisted in the Special Constabulary, from the time he is ordered to report for enlistment or service (whether or not he has complied with such an order) and while in uniform or performing duty in the Special Constabulary under section 14 of the Enlistment Act (Cap. 93), and while called out for mobilised service under sections 16 and 17 of that Act;..."

 

The "best" bit is that from a PR standpoint, they have given some weight/credit to his statements regardless if they were true or not <_<

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after kanna, exemp police reservist or not?

 

i am waiting for sentence with interest

 

Non-criminal so if kenna may not be exempt from POLICE reservist. IF exempted though, he may be liable for SCDF reservist [laugh]

 

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