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What a sunday.. Early morning realised one front tyre totally flat and caused by one thick nail (abt 2cm long) on the tyre. Must be the last night drive near constr site. Wanted to change to spare tyre, but realised that the nuts to the wheel are too tight to be removed, not even slight loosen. Already tried whole body weight on it but didn't work. After considering the car is in the open carpark surrounded by other cars and space constraint, decided to call for outdoor tyre service(recom by Mr Soh Tyre).

The uncle cme shortly and said no problem, small matter. He uses the generator from his lorry to pump up the flat tyre, then took out the nail and fix the hole. He said no need to change the tyre as it is still use-able and it is common for such. Glad that issue is over, paid him 40 as agreed earlier.

 

Was wondering,

is the nuts to the wheels supposed to be so 'super tight'? like that if on the road and need to chge, cfm cannot make it.

is it really safe to drive after fixing the hole like tt? any possible side effect?

is the charge of $30 for labour and $10 for fixing expensive or norm?

if to call AD (toyota) for tow service, how much does it cost?

not sure any bros can share on their related experience. thanks. [rolleyes]

 

 

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What a sunday.. Early morning realised one front tyre totally flat and caused by one thick nail (abt 2cm long) on the tyre. Must be the last night drive near constr site. Wanted to change to spare tyre, but realised that the nuts to the wheel are too tight to be removed, not even slight loosen. Already tried whole body weight on it but didn't work. After considering the car is in the open carpark surrounded by other cars and space constraint, decided to call for outdoor tyre service(recom by Mr Soh Tyre).

The uncle cme shortly and said no problem, small matter. He uses the generator from his lorry to pump up the flat tyre, then took out the nail and fix the hole. He said no need to change the tyre as it is still use-able and it is common for such. Glad that issue is over, paid him 40 as agreed earlier.

 

Was wondering,

is the nuts to the wheels supposed to be so 'super tight'? like that if on the road and need to chge, cfm cannot make it.

is it really safe to drive after fixing the hole like tt? any possible side effect?

is the charge of $30 for labour and $10 for fixing expensive or norm?

if to call AD (toyota) for tow service, how much does it cost?

not sure any bros can share on their related experience. thanks. [rolleyes]

 

Does your car have locking nuts? Some cars have that as an anti-theft measure (so thieves cannot anyhow steal your tyres).

I think the price reasonable leh. But best is to get it checked by the dealer or some experienced workshop to be safe.

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go back AD fix at least $10 and tow-truck $40... more exp...

 

but if u change it your yourself... go to any shop... think cost u $5-$8 most...

u pay high as they need to take transport to your car....

 

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What a sunday.. Early morning realised one front tyre totally flat and caused by one thick nail (abt 2cm long) on the tyre. Must be the last night drive near constr site. Wanted to change to spare tyre, but realised that the nuts to the wheel are too tight to be removed, not even slight loosen. Already tried whole body weight on it but didn't work. After considering the car is in the open carpark surrounded by other cars and space constraint, decided to call for outdoor tyre service(recom by Mr Soh Tyre).

The uncle cme shortly and said no problem, small matter. He uses the generator from his lorry to pump up the flat tyre, then took out the nail and fix the hole. He said no need to change the tyre as it is still use-able and it is common for such. Glad that issue is over, paid him 40 as agreed earlier.

 

Was wondering,

is the nuts to the wheels supposed to be so 'super tight'? like that if on the road and need to chge, cfm cannot make it.

is it really safe to drive after fixing the hole like tt? any possible side effect?

is the charge of $30 for labour and $10 for fixing expensive or norm?

if to call AD (toyota) for tow service, how much does it cost?

not sure any bros can share on their related experience. thanks. [rolleyes]

 

you paid a fair price... and its a Sunday some more... never charge you extra good liao... ^_^

 

i had a puncture once... alan key longer then cotton bud... have no bloody idea how it went in...

 

 

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go back AD fix at least $10 and tow-truck $40... more exp...

 

but if u change it your yourself... go to any shop... think cost u $5-$8 most...

u pay high as they need to take transport to your car....

 

May be if rear tyre punctured only. How to drive to AD with front tyre punctured?

 

Best to check if each wheel nut can be loosen with standard wheel brace that comes with the car. Do not make discovery when such emergency surprise you

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What a sunday.. Early morning realised one front tyre totally flat and caused by one thick nail (abt 2cm long) on the tyre. Must be the last night drive near constr site. Wanted to change to spare tyre, but realised that the nuts to the wheel are too tight to be removed, not even slight loosen. Already tried whole body weight on it but didn't work. After considering the car is in the open carpark surrounded by other cars and space constraint, decided to call for outdoor tyre service(recom by Mr Soh Tyre).

The uncle cme shortly and said no problem, small matter. He uses the generator from his lorry to pump up the flat tyre, then took out the nail and fix the hole. He said no need to change the tyre as it is still use-able and it is common for such. Glad that issue is over, paid him 40 as agreed earlier.

 

Was wondering,

is the nuts to the wheels supposed to be so 'super tight'? like that if on the road and need to chge, cfm cannot make it.

is it really safe to drive after fixing the hole like tt? any possible side effect?

is the charge of $30 for labour and $10 for fixing expensive or norm?

if to call AD (toyota) for tow service, how much does it cost?

not sure any bros can share on their related experience. thanks. [rolleyes]

Sigh. When most of the car's weight is shifted to the punctured tire sitting on the rim, even if you have the bull strength the nuts would not loosen lah. [shakehead] That's why it's "super tight". That's also why the uncle inflate the punctured tire to redistribute the car's weight.

 

If there's no help available the next best thing to do is transfer most of the weight away from the rim by jacking up the car at the corner where the tire is punctured using the jack. For added precaution, place your spare(lie flat) next or near to the jack so that if the jack fails the car will land on it and break the fall. If you let it land on the rim where the punctured tire is it will break the studs and nuts holding the rim.

 

Jack until the height just slightly above the width of your spare, place the spare for precaution. Now dan you try loosening the nuts and swap the punctured for the spare. You will need to jack up higher for the spare. Place the punctured tire where the spare was lying just in case and quickly secure the spare.

 

Only after tightening all the nuts dan you release the jack. Many ppl make the mistake of letting the spare touch the ground first before securing all the nuts. The weight will pressing against the rim or wheel will give ppl the false impression the nuts are fully secured. Ppl will see your spare wobbling when you drive off but you yourself can't see it.

 

Make sure you change tire on level ground. Never attempt it on a slope that poses a danger.

 

 

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i repair at shell station and was charged $8 for removing the nail and patch. so i think ok they charge $10.

the repair man also told me the patch can last the life of the tyre.

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if got nail in tyre, just drive any tyre shop to do

 

between $6-$10

 

but because you call him come, i think the charges are much more expensive

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for my past experience in changing tire... i usually had to use my leg to "lup" the handle..

never use my arm strength to losse the nut...

maybe my car was light.. or maybe i am heavy (abt 100kg)

 

never jack up the car before u loosen the nut.. cause tire will free spin when u try to turn the handle...

 

 

$40 dollar is abit expensive but since u already agree.. no choice..

i remember asking for road assistant to restart engine (flat batter).. only $20

so u transportation + patching... $40 is abit ex.. but again.. maybe it is the sunday price...

 

 

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Thanks bro for the informative sharing.

 

Since its sun and no other alternative, think pricing no choice since rushing for time also.

 

Gotta to admit this is a sudden discovery bcos did not chge the tyre or tried with the nuts before, so didnt knw its super tight.

think is not locking nuts, just the standard altis wheel leh.

 

hopefully the patch can last, so far seems ok.,

will ask dealer to check when got apportunity. esp its the front tyre, the usage and weight is heavier.

 

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you paid a fair price... and its a Sunday some more... never charge you extra good liao... ^_^

 

i had a puncture once... alan key longer then cotton bud... have no bloody idea how it went in...

 

 

Wow, Mine also allen key the long side go through the whole tyre, still wondering whether it is because I drove through Defu lane or act of mischeif.

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Its happen to me a couple of times n both times I just drive to sho n cost 8bucks. will last longer than the tire. I noticed the puncture early before it was totally flat so can drive to workshop. I always make it a point to look at my tires before I leave the car. Maybe a good habit but others say I'm paranoid.

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Thanks bro for the informative sharing.

 

Since its sun and no other alternative, think pricing no choice since rushing for time also.

 

Gotta to admit this is a sudden discovery bcos did not chge the tyre or tried with the nuts before, so didnt knw its super tight.

think is not locking nuts, just the standard altis wheel leh.

 

hopefully the patch can last, so far seems ok.,

will ask dealer to check when got apportunity. esp its the front tyre, the usage and weight is heavier.

 

 

I believe you would have to jack up car to loosen the wheel. No worry, it will not free spin. It is almost impossible to loosen the wheel without jacking up the car, unless you are 100kg.

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I believe you would have to jack up car to loosen the wheel. No worry, it will not free spin. It is almost impossible to loosen the wheel without jacking up the car, unless you are 100kg.

 

wrong....to loosen the nut, one must not jack up the car. weighing 100kg and above does not matter, must know how to tackle the problem with logical thinking and not using brute force to do it. using the car manufacturer spanner to loosen the nut is not sufficient. best is to get a cross spanner and a long metal cylindrical tube to act as a level, this will loosen the nut in no time. of course if u can afford those electrical portal nuts removal type, then by all means.

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I believe you would have to jack up car to loosen the wheel. No worry, it will not free spin. It is almost impossible to loosen the wheel without jacking up the car, unless you are 100kg.

Can jack up a bit but not the whole wheel up in the air.

I done it before by jacking up the whole wheel and the wheel will spin. Learn from experience.

For loosen the nuts, standing on the handle and jump is not enough, maybe 100kg can. :D

Need to do a very hard kick down. Speed is the key. Don't worry, the handle nor the nut will break.

Of course, easier way is to extend the length of the handle.

 

After replace and need to tighten, body weigh is enough to tighten it.

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Can jack up a bit but not the whole wheel up in the air.

I done it before by jacking up the whole wheel and the wheel will spin. Learn from experience.

For loosen the nuts, standing on the handle and jump is not enough, maybe 100kg can. :D

Need to do a very hard kick down. Speed is the key. Don't worry, the handle nor the nut will break.

Of course, easier way is to extend the length of the handle.

 

After replace and need to tighten, body weigh is enough to tighten it.

 

Taken from some website

 

Take it easy and you'll be done and going in no time:

 

Here are some common instructions and safety precautions regularly found in all automobile handbooks and car safety manuals. You can find these types of instructions everywhere! I bring it to you here to better aid you, the person that needs this info. Hope this helps.

 

1. Put the car in park on a level area, and apply the parking brake. On the road, pull off as far as you safely can to avoid traffic.

2. Turn the engine off and put on the flashers. You may want to open the hood to indicate to other drivers that you are stopped for repairs.

3. Place a wheel chock (or any large rock, log, etc.) behind or in front of the opposing wheel to prevent the car from rolling, even on a slight incline.

4. Put the car in gear and set the parking brake for a manual-transmission car.

5. Get out the spare, a tire iron (lugnut wrench) and the car jack.

6. Remove the hubcap, if necessary.

7. Loosen the lugnuts before jacking up the car: Place one end of the tire iron over a lug nut. Turn the tire iron and loosen the lug nut. Remember: lefty-loosy, righty-tighty.

8. Use your pipe for leverage (see tips below) by attaching it to the end of the lugnut wrench.

9. Untighten the lug nuts in a star pattern, loosening one a few turns, then loosening the one opposite.

10. Work across the tire until all the lug nuts are loose and unscrewed slightly.

11. Jack the car up. Check your owner's manual for the correct and safe place to put the jack.

12. Jack the car up a little higher than is necessary to remove the old tire so there is room to put the new, full tire on.

13. Remove the lug nuts all the way and set them aside -- someplace where you won't lose them or they won't roll away! The flat tire should be hanging from the threaded studs now.

14. Remove the flat tire and set it aside.

15. Replace with the new tire, lifting it onto the wheel studs. If confused about which way is the right way to put the new tire on, check for the valve where you add air - it always faces out.

16. Replace the lug nuts. Tighten them the same way you loosened them - give each nut a few turns, first one, then the one opposite, working around the wheel in a star pattern. Try not to tighten adjacent nuts consecutively.

17. Slowly lower the jack and remove it.

18. Tighten the lugnuts again before driving away. Tighten them as much as you can.

19. Put the hubcap back on, if the wheel's equipped with one.

 

 

Some things that can help you:

The best thing to have with your tire changing equipment is a strong, hollow pipe, about two feet long, to use for leverage.

If a lug nut sticks, squirt penetrating oil around its base and wait a moment, then try again. Repeat as needed.

Mind your hands when you remove a flat tire. Strands of steel may be sticking out of the back of the rubber (on a bald tire) and can cut you.

Check out all your tire changing equipment at home before you need it on the road!

Most people's spare tires are flat! Check the tire pressure once a month. Temporary spares (the small ones that have a "T" on them, require 60 PSI, regular sized spares need 32 PSI). A flat spare is useless.

 

Be Careful!

Cars can slip off jacks. Be extremely careful. Never get under a car with only a tire changing jack holding it up.

To avoid bruised knuckles, pull rather than push when removing lugnuts.

To avoid a strained back, use your knees when pulling on the wrench and pipe rather than your back.

 

 

Actually most car have manual on how to changing wheels. I remember following it closely to change tyre.

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I had puntures before.

 

Drove a tyre with 2 repairs, no problem using it all the way till worn.

 

Keep a 12V compressor in the car. So in this situation you cant pump up and go to wrkshop. that is easier then changing it yourself.

 

If you need something better or to be able to handle 2 puntures, get the Conti pump with sealant.

 

 

LESSON 1 : LOOSEN BEFORE YOU JACK-

LESSON 2 : CHOKE WHEELS

Just to share a joke on the road.

I saw a new driver trying to replace a punctured front tyre.

He had parked on a gentle slope.

OFantastic, this guy gain experience fast, he had jacked up his car, and and and.. was trying very hard to loosen the nuts. He even stand on the wrench........ very strong man.

Moments later, the car looked strange, ALAMAK, the car was lowered all the way down. .....

Car shifted and jack collapsed... this time die already, how to get it up again.

Another moment later, tow truck came.. use tow trucks fork to lift it up.. to change tyre...

The end

 

 

 

 

 

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