Turboprop passenger plane airlines

[5936]

Being on Turbo prop during short trips in US

Funny to see when it uses only 1 fan to move around airport.

No earplugs, but can hear the propeller.

" During emergency at sea grap remove your seat" No life vest, only floatation device.

Worried all the way that the reverts may pop, or the propeller may stop.

 

Some photos to share- SAAB Turboprop

Edited July 29, 2010 by 5936

[Cerano]

IIRC some budget airlines purchase their jets second hand from larger airlines, despite what their claims of "young" fleet may be... airliners.net is yr friend. Maybe they already did some homework and the second hand jet is more viable? I'm not sure how airlines are run.

 

I've personally sat in a C130 (don't have to guess why), Fokker 50 and an ATR72 (Firefly). The experience of flying in a turboprop isn't the greatest but it does bring back memories. The other time I was in a prop plane, it was for short hop flight in the US.

 

must be BAC hor fokker f50 and c130

[Sk_2]

Sg --> Perak

 

Budget Terminal

 

overcast sky,

without rain or aerobridge

 

four abreast seating, 2 on each side,

tea, coffee, or juice were served.

 

arriving 90 minutes later,

 

Perak's Sultan Azlan Shah airport

 

view of runway from 2nd floor of bldg,

surrounded by hills and houses...

 

 

 

 

 

Return flight was slightly delayed,

 

nevertheless,

a short trek along the tarmac under scorching sun for the kid, elderly and able body pax alike.

 

 

just sharing,

 

cheers,

[Cklasse]

My prop flight was from Kathmandu to Lukla in Nepal to see Mount Everest. It was an experience to land on a short gravel runway that slopes down towards the cliff edge. So the plane landed and climb up the slope to stop, and do takeoff run down the slope towards the cliff.

[Genie47]

I think this is the SAAB 2000 turboprop plane.

 

It's the fastest twin-engine turboprop with a cruising speed that can match a A320.

 

Like anything SAAB, they stopped making it due to low demand.

 

 

[Happily1986]

The issue is cost, the cost outlay to be expected when these airlines go out to scour for planes. I don't think you have much for a choice if you are looking for used turboprops. There are tonnes of used airliners out there. Heck, i don't think you will mind if i sell off some jet airliners which are technically mothballed already.

 

Another thing. From my brief foray in a plane trading company, Airliners and Turboprop planes might seem like two planes but the former belongs to Civil Aviation whereas the latter belongs to the category of General Aviation. Buying and selling of planes are still firmly entrenched in the hands of big and regular buyers/sellers on the market. It is not easy to source for planes unless you got good contacts.

 

It doesn't make sense for an airline to source planes from General Aviation and besides i think one key criterion that tips in favour of turbofan planes is capacity.

 

Plane purchases are often done with supply chain forecast etc done prior. Never mind that some airliners will fold barely 5 years from inception. If i get a small turboprop now, sure i can use this plane to ply a small route no issue. How about the next 5 years when i need to expand into more routes? Can i still use this turboprop with flexibility to ply other routes that i have?

 

The thing that operators hate most is AOG. And AOG screws plane deployment. I would expect that plane deployment is less than robust, less than flexible if you have a sizeable fleet of turboprops plying numerous routes. This is because we can't shy away from the fact that despite being a stellar performer in its category, the turboprop plane is not really scalable in performance.

 

Scalability is a big word nowadays

[Beehive3783]

Should show him this:

what the fark. duct tape??

[Krado]

what the fark. duct tape??

 

Yup...

 

Also, it was duct tape that caused the crash of one jet... saw it on Air Crash Investigations/ Mayday.

[5936]

Maybe it is 'aviation grade duct tape'

[Johorat]

Using jet will be more economical for longer distance as they are able to climb higher and therefore fly more efficiently. At an cruising altitude of 11,000m the air is thinner and present lesser drag on the plane.

 

Using turbo prop is more efficient for short distance. It doesn't make sense for jetliner to start descending the moment after it reaches the optimal cruising level.

Edited July 31, 2010 by Johorat