Accident in Carpark

[Ehchang8]

my car knocked onto a car coming out of parking lot. i claimed insurance, saying that he came out too sudden and i cannot stop in time. i won the case.

 

so ts can say latio suddenly shoot out of parking lot into her reversing path, she stopped but too late. proof is that the damage is minor.

[Clemenzo]

The photos showing those scratches/dents are too small. Another point worth noting is the direction of the scratch on Latio. Those on Lancer are too superficial.

 

1) If scratches/dents are from right to left on Latio, then disadvantageous to TS. Evident that Lancer reverses into Latio.

 

2) If scratches/dents are left to right on Latio, then advantageous to TS. Evident that Latio forwards into Lancer.

 

 

My two cents.

[Ericongy]

my car knocked onto a car coming out of parking lot. i claimed insurance, saying that he came out too sudden and i cannot stop in time. i won the case.

 

so ts can say latio suddenly shoot out of parking lot into her reversing path, she stopped but too late. proof is that the damage is minor.

 

this seems promising and could be wat really happen tat day! good luck TS!

[Gearoil]

i agreed wif u wat u have written. especially the bold part

but the way u put it, as if u r TS lau peh. not sure if u r so seah lan in person. (maybe tats y ppl say MCF low class)

 

i also duno y ppl advise TS tat she may win??

for me its obvious TS is juz not alert enuf when reversing (which happen to most of us at times or at least me)

i not sure lar, maybe there is really a way to argue until TS win.

 

but i still very curious y the latio din honk TS when he obviously can see TS reversing into him.

 

If you ask me why the other driver didn't honk, I can't give you an answer.

 

Simply becos you are now asking me about ...why some ppl behave this way or why some ppl think of the issue like that!

 

A psychiatrist or one interested in how and why the human mind, think in a particular way during that moment in time, could try to give you an answer.

 

What this forum serves is to highlight the safe and better be safe than sorry way, to handle a suituation when one is on the road.

 

On the road, it doesn't matter who has the right of way but how you can behave and what you can do, to avert an ugly incident.

 

Mostly, the way of how an incident turns out, is 'in the hands' of the respective ppl involved in that accident.

 

That is unless, a BIG tree decides to fall onto your car and for that, I sorry, I could not even say how one should or should not have ,behave when on the roads.

 

Maybe, the silliest, tongue in cheek answer would be, not to drive when the is strong wind coming but who knows when there will be strong wind coming?

[Itsec]

then how come latio side is the one injured and not the font??

 

 

worst case scenario...

 

if dont wan to private settle, then twisted and let the insurance co. decide...

 

i look at this case as 50/50... my brother-in-law also kena this.. very similar... (u can said his is just like latio)

end up both private settle...

[Jojo1]

i guess TS is just BUAY SONG the other party very yaya papaya... but TS ur car looks fine ler... if dun really bother, no repair is required.

 

Fight the case, it drags on. Not happy with the results, appeal and drag on... it goes on n on.. maybe the incident is pretty fresh now and you will feel not happy about it... but i believe the hassle to go down IDAC, mechanics, put car for respray with mechanics cannot use car take public transport, seek chances of winning... AIYO!! at the end day, see all this worth it ma? Pay $$ for lesson learnt...

 

Anyway, when I had cars, I go to Rivermall most weekends =)

 

[Actan72]

Dear all,

 

Dun be surprised that the latio owner may be reading this forum...

So be a little discreet lah...

 

My view is if u think u are really not at fault..

Dun give in.. Some people are not worth your time to settle privately

Edited July 21, 2010 by Actan72

[Jojo1]

Dear all,

 

Dun be surprised that the latio owner may be reading this forum...

So be a little discreet lah...

 

My view is if u think u are really not at fault..

Dun give in.. Some people are not worth your time to settle privately

 

 

how to b discreet, the foto is sooo BIG with the car plate of the Latio liao.. haha...

[Joseph22]

another 'kay kiang' one lor.

talk ma jiam pang pui.

 

 

yeah lah yeah lah. only u not Kay Kiang and dont talk like Pang pui lah happy or not

[Ericongy]

how to b discreet, the foto is sooo BIG with the car plate of the Latio liao.. haha...

 

ya lor, actually i tink TS very KL by not censoring the latio's No. plate.

as if she wana 'shame' tat driver or wana all of us know tat car accident b4..

[Joseph22]

worst case scenario...

 

if dont wan to private settle, then twisted and let the insurance co. decide...

 

i look at this case as 50/50... my brother-in-law also kena this.. very similar... (u can said his is just like latio)

end up both private settle...

 

 

yes that is the likely outcome.

[Robo]

ahyo.. the story goes like that..

 

lancer came out of the lot, as he exiting.. the latio hit his rear!!!

 

SETTLE!!!

 

Y not. lancer stop going to park while hazard light is on. latio while exiting cp lot rams into the rear of the lancer. cmf 100% win

[Ericongy]

yeah lah yeah lah. only u not Kay Kiang and dont talk like Pang pui lah happy or not

 

walau, i side u den u like tat say me

really dun give face leh

 

anw i happy u say i not kay kiang n not pang pui.. haha

[Joseph22]

walau, i side u den u like tat say me

really dun give face leh

 

anw i happy u say i not kay kiang n not pang pui.. haha

 

 

you quote my post leh. and say kay kiang and pang Pui wor... look like toking about me.

 

but i know you are friendly one so i stuck tongue... friendly exchange.

 

next time use 3 emoicon hor. now i can only use 1 nia T_T

Edited July 21, 2010 by Joseph22

[Kiadaw]

Ppl here seem to like to argue.

 

If the person is reversing and sees a car, animal, human or whatever behind,moving, about to move or seem to be in th way ....THAT CAR REVERSING MUST BE THE FIRST TO STOP! ..and ensure that all is clear before continuing to reverse!

 

So simple also cannot do....this type of thing, you can't learn when you're are learning to drive!

 

When anyone is reversing, that driver is pretty handicapped by the lack of view and by the way a reversing car can sense any object , that it can hit. So the reversing driver don't lan, lan try to say...'I got the right of way so I can continue to reverse!

 

Hi bro, in general, what you said is correct, but if you look at the pictures, the Latio will not be visible in both rear view mirror & side mirrors, or if you turn to check for blind spot. Simply because the latio is not in the rear. moreover , blocked by the thick pillar.

 

You could said the same about the Latio, he probably can't see the TS, due to the thick pillar.

 

Some people menstion that the TS should horn before reversing. How many people hron when they park or about to come out of carpark? People don't as in Sunny Singapore, Horning is perceive as angry, score the other driver, so people avoid horn unnecessary. I for one always tempted to horn when I reverse parking or get out of car park. You know what happen when you horn & got people at your back? They may point middle finger (or worst, kick or scratch your car after you left) at you as they think you ah Beng, ask him to siam one side so you can park the car.

 

Anyway, from now on, I will give a soft horn when I reverse park or get out of the lot when my sight are blinded.

 

From my interpretion, TS reverse to park when she thinks Latio has already parked, & the car at the back (the sliver car)stopped, so nothing wrong here. Should she put on signal or hazard, again, the latio will not be able to see anyway, blocked by the piilar. Should she have signal, and should both have signal. Possibly, but that alone wasn't the main cause of the accident.

 

So TS reverse, at no time, will she be able to see latio. This info is important. My assumption is she reverse normally (which is slow), as most of us do in a packed car park, when both side of the parking lot are constraint, one by the pillar, one by another car park next to empty slot.

 

At around the same time, the latio (for some reason, not important) decided to exit the lot. He wouldn't be able to see the TS car initially, blocked by the pillar of course. The next part is important, at some point in time, he should be able to see TS car. He did not signal (as in horn) or stop his car (in time), which could lead to one highly possible reason, the latio must have exit too fast!

 

The impact of his wheel arch was tell tale sign. Also, its in a way too forward position. If he had move slowly out of his lot (as he should as he was "blinded" by the pillar), he should have enough time to stop or react, even when really sway, kanna contacted, the damage should be minimal.

 

Base on these, it have to be the fault of the latio, by my book.

 

What are your views, bros & sis? Is my analysis correct?

 

Key questions to ask is did TS did everything she can to safety park her car, giving enough warning to others, & check blind spots. Short of honing & ask V com to guide her car, I think she had.

 

Did the Latio driver ensure he exit safely, checking traffic & blind spots. Well, almost except going too fast, which is key as he can't stop in time to prevent contact.

 

 

Edited July 21, 2010 by Kiadaw

[Dojon]

As I've mentioned, Forward or stationary, TS 's backside damage is almost 100% win case. If she say reverse, the picture clearly shows that it was she who bang into the latio, which mean latio win.

 

Cannot lah... TS car slanted leh... how to explain with stationary slanted ? if say impact then the latio or TS car should have more serious damage.

[Itsec]

Y not. lancer stop going to park while hazard light is on. latio while exiting cp lot rams into the rear of the lancer. cmf 100% win

 

also can... 'story' is up to write...

 

my brother-in-law case, i talk c--k with the other party... he got 50% NCD...

I act a mediator..

 

one wan to call police.. the other call TP...

TP/police didnt come.. but they did send somebody down... I not sure who.. but this guy on a scooter just ride past and ciao... seem like someone from cisco police or whatever.....

 

I told both off (this is 50/50 - no case to fight) wan to 'eat' each other, both lose NCD nia....

 

if dont wan private settle, both lose 20 %... insurance co is the winner... talk and talk for 1-2 hrs... then both came to understand and stomach it....

 

 

 

 

 

[Maroon5]

The photos showing those scratches/dents are too small. Another point worth noting is the direction of the scratch on Latio. Those on Lancer are too superficial.

 

1) If scratches/dents are from right to left on Latio, then disadvantageous to TS. Evident that Lancer reverses into Latio.

 

2) If scratches/dents are left to right on Latio, then advantageous to TS. Evident that Latio forwards into Lancer.

 

 

My two cents.

 

act i used this argument before when i had an accident..i kena rear side, he kena front side....we were both trying to filter into the middle lane from lane 1 and lane 3....during reporting, the AIG surveyor just told me its stil difficult to establish liabilty..so lan lan...50-50.