Lewis Hamilton the Cheat

[Vroomtattat]

  On 6/28/2010 at 12:20 AM, Macrosszero said:

This complaint came from a guy whose team staged an accident at Singapore GP so that he could win the race?

 

Har har!! He claimed he was not aware of the plan.

[Hosaybo]

That is fast thinking.... I would say. something require for F1 which split second decision and calculated risk taking make a big difference to outcome.

[Relagsingh]

  On 6/27/2010 at 5:19 PM, Leezld said:

Sad day for England..hai..my favourite team disappoints me again...

 

make them yr least fave team to avoid disappointment

[Relagsingh]

  On 6/28/2010 at 12:49 AM, Vroomtattat said:

Har har!! He claimed he was not aware of the plan.

 

pfft... yeah right.

[Ben5266]

Lewis is hero to many. So, he is teaching them, Cheating, never mind if the saman is less than the reward.

Go ahead and challenge the rules.

Lewis should go and learn from Nadal or Federer on how to be the greatest sportsman.

[Kac]

Hamilton made a error of judgement when he hesitated.then decided to overtake the Safety car at the line..Had he not done the former, he could have just cleared the pack together with Vettel, who was also in front the SC..

 

He was justly penalised with a drive through and served it, retaining his P2 because Kobayashi-san, who had yet to pit was backing up the pack...

It wasn't Hamilton's fault that he still managed to retain his P2...

 

I think Nando is getting unsettled here, being slower than Hamilton despite SF's MAJOR update in Valencia...(well, Lewis did outqualify Nando on Saturday)

 

He should just concentrate on his own race rather than being obessed which position Hamilton is in after his penalty...Speaking of a ""manipulated race"" only further amplifies the hypocrisy of the situation when he himself won the most tainted race in 2008..

 

I hate to imagine the whining again when the circus returns to Silverstone where Mclaren will be bringing their major update...It isn't over until the fat lady sings..

 

PS: Nice overtake by Kobayashi-san...

[Relagsingh]

  On 6/28/2010 at 3:45 AM, Kac said:

Hamilton made a error of judgement when he hesitated.then decided to overtake the Safety car at the line..Had he not done the former, he could have just cleared the pack together with Vettel, who was also in front the SC..

 

He was justly penalised with a drive through and served it, retaining his P2 because Kobayashi-san, who had yet to pit was backing up the pack...

It wasn't Hamilton's fault that he still managed to retain his P2...

 

I think Nando is getting unsettled here, being slower than Hamilton despite SF's MAJOR update in Valencia...(well, Lewis did outqualify Nando on Saturday)

 

He should just concentrate on his own race rather than being obessed which position Hamilton is in after his penalty...Speaking of a ""manipulated race"" only further amplifies the hypocrisy of the situation when he himself won the most tainted race in 2008..

 

I hate to imagine the whining again when the circus returns to Silverstone where Mclaren will be bringing their major update...It isn't over until the fat lady sings..

 

PS: Nice overtake by Kobayashi-san...

 

concur with your last line.

 

Ferrari is shlt this year.

 

[Kac]

I think given the Sauber's appalling reliability, Koba has done pretty well for Valencia..Wonder if their Ferrari engines will cost more next year..

 

As for the Scuderia, for sure, I will not count them out for this year as yet but they have been quite disappointing for the season so far. Considering they started late last year (since Spa IIRC) to devote their resources to build the F60, I thought they might have been able to challenge for the win more often this year..The F60B spec car strangely didn't seem to do much better in Valencia though..

[Watwheels]

Aiya... The dunno how many time world champion driver what Mikai Shoemaker is not a saint either. What ppl say is true. Good guys finish last.

Edited June 28, 2010 by Watwheels

[TandemAssassin]

Every sport has its fair share of dirty tactics.

 

Time wasting and diving in soccer. Pulling swimming trunks in water polo. Elbows and strategically placed feet in basketball. Staging accident in F1.

 

To be honest, what Hamilton did? Hardly as dirty as those listed above.

[Jonbummer]

tit for tat ... ?

 

McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh wants the rules on testing clarified after claiming Ferrari broke them.

 

Whitmarsh feels the Italian team contravened strict rules governing how much in-season testing can be done.

 

Fernando Alonso drove the current car at their Fiorano test track on 18 June for "promotional purposes".

 

"I didn't think they needed clarification, but for some they clearly do," said Whitmarsh, who felt the drive helped develop Ferrari's car.

 

The amount of costly testing teams can do was slashed as the global economic crisis hit Formula 1, with only four days of straight-line testing allowed during the season.

 

But teams are allowed to use their cars on tracks for promotional reasons, provided special tyres are used.

 

Ferrari's website claims Alonso "only completed a few kilometres." But the team added "you have to make the most of any opportunity in this era of the testing ban".

 

"Formula 1 is a very competitive business and people are going to try to take advantage of any perceived ambiguity," Whitmarsh said.

 

"It isn't ambiguous in my English interpretation of it, but others obviously thought it was," he added.

 

Both Ferrari's cars at Sunday's European Grand Prix in Valencia will be using the new blown diffuser for the first time, which channels exhaust gases to make the cars go faster.

 

Whitmarsh's thoughts were echoed by Red Bull team principal Christian Horner, who described Ferrari's promotional drive as "arguably within the letter of the laws, but not within the spirit".

 

He admitted that Ferrari were not the first team this season to bend the rules on testing.

 

"The temptation is there. We've had some arguable decisions, such as with Mercedes, and then you hear rumours of Renault doing something, Ferrari doing something.

 

"Once one does it then everybody feels, 'Well, if that's how you are going to interpret something, then I'll push it to the limit."'

 

And Whitmarsh believes it may well be time for limited in-season testing to be brought back to Formula 1.

 

"We had to take significant measures given the crisis involving the economy and Formula 1.

 

"I think now, as we can see signs of the economy improving, we can go back to testing. Formula 1 is about running cars, I think drivers enjoy testing and teams enjoy testing and developing cars," he said.

[Kac]

Why the need to run a "Promotional Filming" with the new EBD (exhaust blown diffuser)?

[Jonbummer]

basically just some loopholes to be "explored"

 

 

i was just amazed just how alonso spent time on the car radio and cried over spilled milk

during a race, and then more crying afterwards to gain publicity

 

is it cos McLaren cry foul on this 1st?

 

just wondering...

[Leslielai]

I'm surprised at the harsh criticisms targeted at Hamilton when Schumacher was a worse cheat throughout his career and yet people worship him like god. [rolleyes] [rolleyes]

[Leslielai]

  On 6/28/2010 at 3:45 AM, Kac said:

Hamilton made a error of judgement when he hesitated.then decided to overtake the Safety car at the line..Had he not done the former, he could have just cleared the pack together with Vettel, who was also in front the SC..

 

He was justly penalised with a drive through and served it, retaining his P2 because Kobayashi-san, who had yet to pit was backing up the pack...

It wasn't Hamilton's fault that he still managed to retain his P2...

 

I think Nando is getting unsettled here, being slower than Hamilton despite SF's MAJOR update in Valencia...(well, Lewis did outqualify Nando on Saturday)

 

He should just concentrate on his own race rather than being obessed which position Hamilton is in after his penalty...Speaking of a ""manipulated race"" only further amplifies the hypocrisy of the situation when he himself won the most tainted race in 2008..

 

I hate to imagine the whining again when the circus returns to Silverstone where Mclaren will be bringing their major update...It isn't over until the fat lady sings..

 

PS: Nice overtake by Kobayashi-san...

 

 

Yes, especially at the last corner. That was just brilliant.

[Kac]

Why so many people out stil flame him for whatever things he do is beyond me..

Despite the fact that he has had his "foot in mouth" moments before ("Monkeys at the back of the grid" comments, Lie-gate 2009), I feel that he has matured as a person especially through the last season, driving from the back to the front of the grid..

 

I wonder why some people still hate him..

[Rjmsfire]

At least the FIA is now acting fairly to all teams, not like the Schumacher days when the FIA appeared to bend over backwards to accommodate Ferrari.

 

In Valencia, it would be exaggerated to describe Hamilton as a cheat. He infringed the safety car rule, yes, but it was marginal, unlike Lampard's goal. That's why it took the Stewards so long to verify if Hamilton had indeed passed the safety car before the safety car line.

 

They applied the standard drive through penalty. The stop and go penalty was abolished some years ago. It is to Hamilton's credit that he could drive fast enough to negate the drive through penalty. That pace is not a given.

[Xavina]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CyeSx9kWrI

 

Well at least he overtook the safety car