Pyramid_sg Clutched June 14, 2010 Share June 14, 2010 (edited) I've mentioned about the detuned engine before. However, with the higher octane petrol like the V-power, the engine responds a lot better than the 95 Octane. Its not so sluggish. With the new petrol, driving the BMW is more fun. 50/50 weight distribution of the car makes it very stable. I also used to have a rattling noise when I switch off the air con when I used 95 Octane. The noise doesn't exist anymore after the BMW techs asked me to use the 98 Octane and above....... Can't explain why but it works. Edited June 14, 2010 by Pyramid_sg ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf5725 1st Gear June 14, 2010 Share June 14, 2010 shallow hal.... shallow but i think kind of true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qr25vet Clutched June 14, 2010 Share June 14, 2010 BMW is all bout the driving experience not so much the tech or luxury.... actually not really la...u got the tech as well wad...without technology we wont have many innovations that BMW have now in the car...Dynamic drive,active steering etc etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qr25vet Clutched June 14, 2010 Share June 14, 2010 I've mentioned about the detuned engine before. However, with the higher octane petrol like the V-power, the engine responds a lot better than the 95 Octane. Its not so sluggish. With the new petrol, driving the BMW is more fun. 50/50 weight distribution of the car makes it very stable. I also used to have a rattling noise when I switch off the air con when I used 95 Octane. The noise doesn't exist anymore after the BMW techs asked me to use the 98 Octane and above....... Can't explain why but it works. very simple...cos the igniton timing can be further advanced w/o fear of knocking..with 95 octane igniton timnig will be retarded in some way to prevent engine knocking which is sensed by the knock sensors...hence u get smoother idling and acceleration... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear June 15, 2010 Share June 15, 2010 (edited) actually not really la...u got the tech as well wad...without technology we wont have many innovations that BMW have now in the car...Dynamic drive,active steering etc etc... aiya that one nothing much la bro active steering, your dyanmic drive merc, audi all also come as standard for c-class/a4 (i believe) BMW still have to top up right? must compare within its class Edited June 15, 2010 by Cerano Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear June 15, 2010 Share June 15, 2010 very simple...cos the igniton timing can be further advanced w/o fear of knocking..with 95 octane igniton timnig will be retarded in some way to prevent engine knocking which is sensed by the knock sensors...hence u get smoother idling and acceleration... thats pretty terrible. mercs can all run on 95 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceroymenthol 6th Gear June 16, 2010 Share June 16, 2010 Understand where you are coming from. Me not fortunate enough to be in such dilemma, just that after seeing it with sunroof/memory seats as std and has elec folding side mirror (which many condemn w/o it for earlier batches), it's not so bad afterall. I guess I am a shallow badge whore, cos I am one who will buy Rolex even though Omega is more complicated/cheaper/nicer etc. I go for the WOW factor (how lian lah) For cars, I will go for MB over Audi or BMW (all are good cars) ... But the key word is "WILL", I can't afford any of the 3 brands anyway... Can only drool at sideline... bro... i will take a base handwound regular production Panerai over the most complicated helium-release double-chrono Omega diver ANY DAY. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qr25vet Clutched June 16, 2010 Share June 16, 2010 thats pretty terrible. mercs can all run on 95 all cars can run on 95...no problem...becoz of the knock sensors installed and how the ECU compensates that all...heck u can even run 92 in theory...i have seen beemer owners or merc owners top up 92 on their rides...and that kinda disgusts me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear June 16, 2010 Share June 16, 2010 all cars can run on 95...no problem...becoz of the knock sensors installed and how the ECU compensates that all...heck u can even run 92 in theory...i have seen beemer owners or merc owners top up 92 on their rides...and that kinda disgusts me... i mean the minimum your car requires without retarding the timing/knocking 92 on a merc? that sucks man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 16, 2010 Share June 16, 2010 all cars can run on 95...no problem...becoz of the knock sensors installed and how the ECU compensates that all...heck u can even run 92 in theory...i have seen beemer owners or merc owners top up 92 on their rides...and that kinda disgusts me... not really... some cars that have undergo tuning can only drink 98... and most cars can take fuel of lower ron but suffer knocking.. not good in the long run. thus saving in the short term lead to long term suffering down the road Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear June 16, 2010 Share June 16, 2010 not really... some cars that have undergo tuning can only drink 98... and most cars can take fuel of lower ron but suffer knocking.. not good in the long run. thus saving in the short term lead to long term suffering down the road save only few bucks i'd rather not save the world and burn more oil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceroymenthol 6th Gear June 16, 2010 Share June 16, 2010 save only few bucks i'd rather not save the world and burn more oil you so old liao, doesn't matter to you. but think of your children, your children's children.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceroymenthol 6th Gear June 16, 2010 Share June 16, 2010 not really... some cars that have undergo tuning can only drink 98... and most cars can take fuel of lower ron but suffer knocking.. not good in the long run. thus saving in the short term lead to long term suffering down the road yeah... between 95 and 98 save a few dollars... not worth it... i have never pumped 95.. whatever car i drove.. even rental car. what's the point. i would suppose the new mercs with turbo engines can only take 98? if 95 will lead to premature engine problems... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 16, 2010 Share June 16, 2010 (edited) save only few bucks i'd rather not save the world and burn more oil it's the ron. not amt of fuel... there's no diff when u burn 1 litre of ron 92 and 1 lire of ron 98 and we know u driving merc C class.. Edited June 16, 2010 by Sony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnipotent Clutched June 16, 2010 Share June 16, 2010 During those days when oil prices were really high, I tried pumping ron 95 fuel for the merc w210 before. Somehow it caused some problems to the car. The car would suddenly lose power at times and no matter how much you push the pedal, it just does not accelerate to a higher speed and the auto gear box does not change gear. So I had to stop the car and turn off the engine and then restart the car. By doing this, sometimes the car behaves normally and gear changes are normal. I subsequently switched back to Ron 98. It took about a week before the problem I faced when using ron 95 disappeared. Not sure why this happened. Now I am using only Ron 98 for my w211. Not taking any chances! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ncss Clutched June 16, 2010 Share June 16, 2010 (edited) The pig nose getting bigger and bigger.. Edited June 16, 2010 by Ncss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid_sg Clutched June 17, 2010 Share June 17, 2010 The BMW 318i also consumes a lot of oil. I've driven only 8200km and I had to top it up yesterday after the oil indicator started lighting up. Need to use at least an oil grade 40. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear June 17, 2010 Share June 17, 2010 (edited) it's the ron. not amt of fuel... there's no diff when u burn 1 litre of ron 92 and 1 lire of ron 98 and we know u driving merc C class.. i drive a sunny too la... and for that i pump 92... hmm actually there is. i believe 92 gives you much less mileage. Edited June 17, 2010 by Cerano ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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