Sony 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 beside the anti-glare mirror (aka chromatic mirror), the 318's rear seat also cannot fold down. as for the price, during the last airshow, the car is going at a offer price of around 111k. hope that give u a good indicator of how much u can bargain after taking the COE hike into the equation.. I was considering it but it was really bare and the car was really sluggish.. had to keep my feet constantly at the pedal to keep it moving.. and mind u, it was a long drive.. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 such 'low' prices are to attract more people into owning a 'Premium Marque'.... i guess the new 3-Series is coming soon too.... PML starting to clear stocks.... start to clear now, better than clearing at a later date when the new car is about to arrive.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 i thk u r referring to the dimming rear view mirror..act quite useful altho not life n death necessary...my only complaint is the size is abit small tho... actually that can be done aftermarket.. come with built in reverse camera somemore.. similar to the one on the i45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 Well, its not that bad.. But if got that budget....I rather choose A4 1.8TFSI than 318i/320i... I personally preferred A4 looks and the performance... that budget, if have, means increasing it by another 10k or so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 not the A4 1.8TSI lah.... if one get the A4, must opt for the 2.0TSI model.... might as well ask that person to up more to the budget and get the new 5 series during their launch price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melody288 2nd Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 I bought the current 318 in Dec 09. OMV was $35.5k and COE was $19k. Frankly speaking, the so-called detune 2l engine for 318 is just nice. I have tried the 320 which is having same engine, but the ECU is tuned to give higher horse-power. I find that the 320 power delivery (from 0 - 100 km) though is faster but not as smooth, compared to the 318. I have driven the 318 up & down genting in 3 occasions, it was very stable (& no problem climbing the genting slope). The ave consumption from s'pore to kl is about 13.3 km per litre, which is reasonable. For the rear seats, it is not as comfortable as Jap saloons (due to the large centre tunnel & wheel arch). For the A4, the rear seats space isn't that good either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe 3rd Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 a friend told me it is damn spastic to get a luxury car which comes without electric driver seat and without auto aircon as these are standard features that can be found in almost all entry level luxury cars. this is his pet peeve about the basic model of 318 and 320. haha.. my pet peeve would be performance. lower powered engine is quite difficult to accept at this price. is the a4 1.8T price similar? if then, i think that's a better deal compared to 318 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melody288 2nd Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 my pet peeve would be performance. lower powered engine is quite difficult to accept at this price. is the a4 1.8T price similar? if then, i think that's a better deal compared to 318 I was at Audi on Sat. The 1.8l A4 attraction is selling at $150k net, and A4 Ambition selling at $161k net. Was told that 318 is $130k net. Anyone get lower than these prices, over the weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 I bought the current 318 in Dec 09. OMV was $35.5k and COE was $19k. Frankly speaking, the so-called detune 2l engine for 318 is just nice. I have tried the 320 which is having same engine, but the ECU is tuned to give higher horse-power. I find that the 320 power delivery (from 0 - 100 km) though is faster but not as smooth, compared to the 318. I have driven the 318 up & down genting in 3 occasions, it was very stable (& no problem climbing the genting slope). The ave consumption from s'pore to kl is about 13.3 km per litre, which is reasonable. For the rear seats, it is not as comfortable as Jap saloons (due to the large centre tunnel & wheel arch). For the A4, the rear seats space isn't that good either. the handling is definitely there but I'm surprised at the power delivery comment u have on the 320. as for avg consumption, may i know your average speed to get 13/3km/l? coz when I go on NS highway, my FC is worse than singapore but that's because i average 160 and above the rear seat, esp the part near the door opening is quite bad.. so that was due to the wheel arch? I'm ok with the center tunnel, i find it good, esp for those wearing miniskirt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 add on to the list of what is missing, the 318 came with synthetic leather as well. but i think most people can't tell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 my pet peeve would be performance. lower powered engine is quite difficult to accept at this price. is the a4 1.8T price similar? if then, i think that's a better deal compared to 318 melody have replied on the price.. frankly, the 318 is sitting on the fence.. cost more than the usual 3 japz: teana, accord and camry but still cheaper than main stream entry level of executive conti like C class, A4, S60 and their own 320.. going against the other conti like vw, opel, citroen , renault, skoda, etc will lose out in equipment but won them by badge.. I would say it's a mental struggle to buy this car.. I was in that dilemma then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melody288 2nd Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 the handling is definitely there but I'm surprised at the power delivery comment u have on the 320. as for avg consumption, may i know your average speed to get 13/3km/l? coz when I go on NS highway, my FC is worse than singapore but that's because i average 160 and above the rear seat, esp the part near the door opening is quite bad.. so that was due to the wheel arch? I'm ok with the center tunnel, i find it good, esp for those wearing miniskirt The higher horsepower for 320 is due to ECU programming. My previous SAAB experience is also the same - SAAB 95 with 185bhp can be upgraded to 220bhp. After the ECU upgrade, the higher power is there, but compromising the smooth delivery. When I am NS highway, I usually stick to 110km/h (b'cos of previous bad experiences in m'sia summonses), with few occasions at higher speed to over-take slower traffic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 melody have replied on the price.. frankly, the 318 is sitting on the fence.. cost more than the usual 3 japz: teana, accord and camry but still cheaper than main stream entry level of executive conti like C class, A4, S60 and their own 320.. going against the other conti like vw, opel, citroen , renault, skoda, etc will lose out in equipment but won them by badge.. I would say it's a mental struggle to buy this car.. I was in that dilemma then badge WHORE I tried the 2 back to back and the 320 is definitely more responsive...and yes, the leather, different class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 The higher horsepower for 320 is due to ECU programming. My previous SAAB experience is also the same - SAAB 95 with 185bhp can be upgraded to 220bhp. After the ECU upgrade, the higher power is there, but compromising the smooth delivery. When I am NS highway, I usually stick to 110km/h (b'cos of previous bad experiences in m'sia summonses), with few occasions at higher speed to over-take slower traffic maybe your saab need to go further than just a retune.. my family's 95 had 280 pony in it then but was smooth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 The higher horsepower for 320 is due to ECU programming. My previous SAAB experience is also the same - SAAB 95 with 185bhp can be upgraded to 220bhp. After the ECU upgrade, the higher power is there, but compromising the smooth delivery. When I am NS highway, I usually stick to 110km/h (b'cos of previous bad experiences in m'sia summonses), with few occasions at higher speed to over-take slower traffic FYI, it is more than ECU. 318 & 320 use different DISA (Intake manifold). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 badge WHORE I tried the 2 back to back and the 320 is definitely more responsive...and yes, the leather, different class i was prepared to let u be Mamasan and pimp me.. but then, i decided that I can have the badge on my son's car when he learn to cycle.. ya.. leather is impt.. in case the car's electronic fail and we are lock up, at least we can chew on the leather while waiting for rescue.. seems like PML decide that 318 owner are not worth saving.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 FYI, it is more than ECU. 318 & 320 use different DISA (Intake manifold). same as the 323 and 325.. and a lot of people tot they can buy a 323 and tune up since sharing engine.. guess not everyone is a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 7, 2010 Share June 7, 2010 same as the 323 and 325.. and a lot of people tot they can buy a 323 and tune up since sharing engine.. guess not everyone is a U could change the intake manifold, but ECU will not recognised it as 325. Pointless!! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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