Redboy 1st Gear May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 Sorry, I will never be proud of winning by taking short cuts. I'd rather we do it correctly by nurturing our own population and then fail, than buying medals. We did not buy medals! Those chinese players are not ready-made champions before joining us. We still have to do the hard work of training & grooming them. China is quite good in spotting talent at young age & would not allow those talent to be taken away. So we bought so-called rejects & make them champions. It's not like we bought a cristiano ronaldo or messi. Get it? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 I guess LBW will start to TALK BIG again that her decision to axe so and so is correct and blah blah blah... shutting all critics ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 I guess LBW will start to TALK BIG again that her decision to axe so and so is correct and blah blah blah... shutting all critics ... wont be that big as her favorite player did not contribute to the winning [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1234 1st Gear May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 Why cant we scout our own locals and trained them up as a good star? Look at table tennis ( dominated with foreign talents)..... Why do we spend money training and importing talents where we can't even train up our locals? Its like saying, Why do you show good care to child which are not yours in the same family where you neglected your own child? I have to admit that local talents are not as good as foreign talents but if we were to provide them with the training and resources with what we can provide to the foreigners. Personally, i don't think there's much difference between the gap level if these were been done . But however our local talents were NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE! Its because we only wanted to WIN the game. Getting the medal, the fame,etc..... [bigcry] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 We did not buy medals! Those chinese players are not ready-made champions before joining us. We still have to do the hard work of training & grooming them. China is quite good in spotting talent at young age & would not allow those talent to be taken away. So we bought so-called rejects & make them champions. It's not like we bought a cristiano ronaldo or messi. Get it? agree.... i believe that winning is secondary as these players brought in the professionals (coaches, technique, etc) to motivate the local players or create interest in the country. But looking at china exporting the players (forsport that they have more players than required), feel sad that it was like a trading market and countries come to choose players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 Why cant we scout our own locals and trained them up as a good star? Look at table tennis ( dominated with foreign talents)..... Why do we spend money training and importing talents where we can't even train up our locals? Its like saying, Why do you show good care to child which are not yours in the same family where you neglected your own child? I have to admit that local talents are not as good as foreign talents but if we were to provide them with the training and resources with what we can provide to the foreigners. Personally, i don't think there's much difference between the gap level if these were been done . But however our local talents were NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE! Its because we only wanted to WIN the game. Getting the medal, the fame,etc..... [bigcry] HAHAHA..... in your dream! and talk is easy now that we see more talent or local interested to take up certain sport and given more chances, who do you think the credit goes to? many still wouldn't want to send their kids to the sport school and you think the local can groom one local talent without the right environment and motivation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 Why cant we scout our own locals and trained them up as a good star? Look at table tennis ( dominated with foreign talents)..... Why do we spend money training and importing talents where we can't even train up our locals? Its like saying, Why do you show good care to child which are not yours in the same family where you neglected your own child? I have to admit that local talents are not as good as foreign talents but if we were to provide them with the training and resources with what we can provide to the foreigners. Personally, i don't think there's much difference between the gap level if these were been done . But however our local talents were NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE! Its because we only wanted to WIN the game. Getting the medal, the fame,etc..... [bigcry] The issue is not that Garment don't wanna give our Local Breed Child this Opportunity. The parents of all Singapore children want their kids to be Lawyers, Doctors, CEOs, Bankers, Ministers... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstorm 1st Gear May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 Why cant we scout our own locals and trained them up as a good star? Look at table tennis ( dominated with foreign talents)..... Why do we spend money training and importing talents where we can't even train up our locals? Its like saying, Why do you show good care to child which are not yours in the same family where you neglected your own child? I have to admit that local talents are not as good as foreign talents but if we were to provide them with the training and resources with what we can provide to the foreigners. Personally, i don't think there's much difference between the gap level if these were been done . But however our local talents were NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE! Its because we only wanted to WIN the game. Getting the medal, the fame,etc..... [bigcry] How many Singaporean parents are willing to let their children become a full time sportsman knowing for the fact that there is no guarantee of success despite training full time for it? To the vast majority of Singaporeans, opting for a degree is a very much safer route for with a good tertiary education, they can be assured of a lifetime employment. Even for those who make it to the national team, their lifespan is comparatively short compared to a person with a full time job and there is no guarantee of success in the international sporting arean; let alone earing S$m for an Olympic gold. Singaporeans will not want to take risk, they will prefer a good education. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimnfire 4th Gear May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 Wow. Quite an amazing feat. Imagine they were once rejects from their former country. Dan found redemption in a foreign land, train very hard and have to adapt new lifestyle & environment all at the same time. Finally beat their ex countryman at their own game. Respect. and after earning enough money from sponsor, rewards....can throw away the citizenship and go back to mother lands to enjoy life which is sadly much cheaper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 Why cant we scout our own locals and trained them up as a good star? Look at table tennis ( dominated with foreign talents)..... Why do we spend money training and importing talents where we can't even train up our locals? Its like saying, Why do you show good care to child which are not yours in the same family where you neglected your own child? I have to admit that local talents are not as good as foreign talents but if we were to provide them with the training and resources with what we can provide to the foreigners. Personally, i don't think there's much difference between the gap level if these were been done . But however our local talents were NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE! Its because we only wanted to WIN the game. Getting the medal, the fame,etc..... [bigcry] Talk is easy. Wait till you ask other local parents to send their child to sports school and they will look at you and think you are crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1234 1st Gear May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 HAHAHA..... in your dream! and talk is easy now that we see more talent or local interested to take up certain sport and given more chances, who do you think the credit goes to? many still wouldn't want to send their kids to the sport school and you think the local can groom one local talent without the right environment and motivation? The Local talents i am referring are the local-born players in the SG national team. Do you think they were given any chances to even play for any International Match? I am afraid NO. They are usually the ones warming the benches on the reserve . If one were not given a chance to even play for an International game, he/she will always be in the National region.....There won't be much improvement due to the lack of composure. Besides everyone will have to take a first step out. Yes, there may be failure but if they were not even given a single chance to play....Do you think its fair? No, of cos....Life is unfair. Those foreigner talents also took their first step because they were given a chance and even though they failed.....They were given intensive trainings and till now....The world Champions...... Yes, in International games we always wanted to do our best in getting the best results. But why cant we just trust our local-born players where they can do as well. I believe that every players will give their very best. Yes, they may lose the game but ultimately they will win and gain something from the game. From every matches which they participated in, they will gain something valubale. Personally, i feel that our local-born players are also as hardworking as the local foreigner talents . If only they were given an opportunity.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galantspeedz Turbocharged May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 (edited) 1 question.. are the locals better then the FTs or neutralised locals as i will call it..... if yes, then it is unfair to the locals if no, then they should not represent the country as they they should represent based on merit rather than colour of IC the problem is competition.... if it is all locals, there is little competition.... or even no competition.... with FTs there is much more competiton.... and it is up to the locals to prove they can make the cut.... Edited May 31, 2010 by Galantspeedz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freestylers09 5th Gear May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 i will give my children to do sports if they choose to..if i have a kid now or future.. to nurture a kid from things they like to do,will unleash their potential more than what we want them to do.. maybe i non academic pple,thats why how i feel....to acheive things in life...it's not everything just to make them academic players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galantspeedz Turbocharged May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 i will give my children to do sports if they choose to..if i have a kid now or future.. to nurture a kid from things they like to do,will unleash their potential more than what we want them to do.. maybe i non academic pple,thats why how i feel....to acheive things in life...it's not everything just to make them academic players the problem is even if our child has potential.. we must be prepared to fork out alot of money before they can gain recognition... the problem now is where to get the money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 The Local talents i am referring are the local-born players in the SG national team. Do you think they were given any chances to even play for any International Match? I am afraid NO. They are usually the ones warming the benches on the reserve . If one were not given a chance to even play for an International game, he/she will always be in the National region.....There won't be much improvement due to the lack of composure. Besides everyone will have to take a first step out. Yes, there may be failure but if they were not even given a single chance to play....Do you think its fair? No, of cos....Life is unfair. Those foreigner talents also took their first step because they were given a chance and even though they failed.....They were given intensive trainings and till now....The world Champions...... Yes, in International games we always wanted to do our best in getting the best results. But why cant we just trust our local-born players where they can do as well. I believe that every players will give their very best. Yes, they may lose the game but ultimately they will win and gain something from the game. From every matches which they participated in, they will gain something valubale. Personally, i feel that our local-born players are also as hardworking as the local foreigner talents . If only they were given an opportunity.... without the foreign talents/coaches (they come in package ), the local DO NOT even get close to the international events and the exposure to such events. It is still early to tell as the training take many more years to see result, whether the local committee , association, etc able to sustain the environment to see it through is another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freestylers09 5th Gear May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 huh? those high end sport like sailing etc ah??? v few sports nid to pay so much one..depends which... train them with coconuts bare footed first..LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnipotent Clutched May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 How many Singaporean parents are willing to let their children become a full time sportsman knowing for the fact that there is no guarantee of success despite training full time for it? To the vast majority of Singaporeans, opting for a degree is a very much safer route for with a good tertiary education, they can be assured of a lifetime employment. Even for those who make it to the national team, their lifespan is comparatively short compared to a person with a full time job and there is no guarantee of success in the international sporting arean; let alone earing S$m for an Olympic gold. Singaporeans will not want to take risk, they will prefer a good education. I cannot agree with you more. You cannot really make money playing table tennis professionally in Singapore unless you are really " THE ONE". It just does not pay. After all, you can only be at your best in your prime early years. Once you are over the hill, that's it. You have to move on. So a basic tertiary education is still important in our context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion Turbocharged May 31, 2010 Share May 31, 2010 Yes they did a good job. On the other hand, why should any singaporeans take up table tennis when they know the policy is to import foreigners? A national team that inject itself full of foreigners to get medals is no different from a runner that injects steriods to win. After all, after a while, the steroids are part of his body too. This FT policy is somewhat lacking in honour and integrity. i dun quite agree... the association has many potential singaporean youngsters who will benefit from the experience of the FTs just like the football club youth academies... they will learn much from the better foreign players that are signed by the clubs, but of cos they themselves must step up in the training and performances barcelona and man utd are examples with good balance in both signings of world class foreigners and development of good youngsters guess we will be glad if two or more singaporeans can develop into world class table tennis players in the next 10 years ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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