Nuclear Power and Electric Vehicles

[Darryn]

Why we dun use more solar power? singapore is so bloody hot..

 

Solar power needs massive land area, which singapore dun have so much of.

 

Secondly - when do you use your aircon at home? Is the sun out or not? So then how....?

 

Solar EV not up to scratch yet (or even close) - but battery EV not so far away...

[Tkseah]

Solar power needs massive land area, which singapore dun have so much of.

 

Secondly - when do you use your aircon at home? Is the sun out or not? So then how....?

 

Solar EV not up to scratch yet (or even close) - but battery EV not so far away...

 

Not looking at a 100% solar powered solution, but if it can help 10-20% why not?

[TangoElite]

Full electric car will be here soon. But are u willing to pay the price tag???

 

Here is an old article :

 

http://cars.st701.com/articles/view/3591

 

The eight cars, to be named SEV1-1 (Singapore Electric Vehicle 1) to SEV1-8, are expected to have a range of 50km between charges, attain a top speed of 125kmh and sprint to 100kmh in 12.5 seconds.

 

.............................

 

The base price for each unit is $1.8 million (much more than a $1.5-million Rolls-Royce Phantom), but Mr Tan hopes people will bid up to $8.8 million for one.

 

 

 

 

 

obviously you did not read the whole article you posted

 

the million dollar price tag is mainly to buy equity of his company, not so much for the vehicle

 

future SEV-2 is targetted to retail at 5k only

[TangoElite]

Solar power needs massive land area, which singapore dun have so much of.

 

Secondly - when do you use your aircon at home? Is the sun out or not? So then how....?

 

Solar EV not up to scratch yet (or even close) - but battery EV not so far away...

 

 

 

we dont need 100% dependcy on solar energy, just a small percentage decrease will be significant

 

dont you know that solar energy can be captured and stored during the day for use during the night????

 

certain neighbourhoods in singapore are already using solar power to light up their shelter walkways at night..

 

this is nothing new, and should be encouraged more

 

imagine how much energy can be captured if every hdb roof top utilise 50% of its surface area for solar panels

Edited May 5, 2010 by TangoElite

[Adrianli]

obviously you did not read the whole article you posted

 

the million dollar price tag is mainly to buy equity of his company, not so much for the vehicle

 

future SEV-2 is targetted to retail at 5k only

 

SEV-2 is not out yet. He needs to sell the SEV-1 so that he can produce SEV-2.

 

Quote from his website :

 

Investors / venture capitalist / hardcore vehicle owners, who wants something different and a vehicle so unique, by committing to a vehicle, the buyers becomes a share holder of the company which the revenue would be used to fund SQEV2, A mass production electric powered vehicle everyone can afford.

 

http://www.greencar.com.sg/index.php

 

 

U wana buy his SEV-1 car??? Three cars in SG now, still waiting for buyers.

[Adrianli]

SEV1-1

 

 

Product Information

The first vehicle will include 2% of the company share. This means the buyer will also become the investor/shareholder of the company.

 

The starting price will be S$1,800,000

 

The owner will get to choose the following

 

1) Brand of Upholestry

2) Design of the rim

3) Colour of the body

4) Any other request

 

 

 

Price: S$8800000.00

 

[TangoElite]

SEV-2 is not out yet. He needs to sell the SEV-1 so that he can produce SEV-2.

 

Quote from his website :

 

Investors / venture capitalist / hardcore vehicle owners, who wants something different and a vehicle so unique, by committing to a vehicle, the buyers becomes a share holder of the company which the revenue would be used to fund SQEV2, A mass production electric powered vehicle everyone can afford.

 

http://www.greencar.com.sg/index.php

 

 

U wana buy his SEV-1 car??? Three cars in SG now, still waiting for buyers.

 

 

now then you realise???

 

so next time finish reading the article before you post that they are selling a vehicle for $1.8m, when in fact it is not

 

 

[Tkseah]

SEV1-Super Package

 

Product Information

These are purely ideas our engineers have over dinner / supper.

 

1) A radar evading paint coat

2) An ejection seat

3) A champagne dispenser

4) 2 x missiles

5) 20mm chain gun in the front

6) Smoke flairs

7) Signal flairs

8) Bullet proof cabin

 

But it is possible with SGD 350 million, just whether we ever get clearance from authorities.

 

Price: S$350000000.00

 

[laugh]

[inlinesix]

Electric ka is commercially available, will u pay US$100K for it?

 

Tesla Motor

 

It has a super good range 236 miles or 378 km. Practically from Singapore to KL. With home connector (for landed property), 4 hrs to full charge from flat.

 

In 2012, there will be a 4 dr version with better range up to 300 miles or 480 km.

[Adrianli]

now then you realise???

 

so next time finish reading the article before you post that they are selling a vehicle for $1.8m, when in fact it is not

 

I did read the article a few times. He is indeed selling his electric cars for $1.8m. Bonus is 2% company share.

[Darryn]

we dont need 100% dependcy on solar energy, just a small percentage decrease will be significant

 

dont you know that solar energy can be captured and stored during the day for use during the night????

 

certain neighbourhoods in singapore are already using solar power to light up their shelter walkways at night..

 

this is nothing new, and should be encouraged more

 

imagine how much energy can be captured if every hdb roof top utilise 50% of its surface area for solar panels

 

Well yeah...except I'm not talking about what generating technology Singapore should use - I want to have some brainstorming about EV.

 

Reason I suggest nuclear as the power source is

1. The generating capacity is confirmed enough to handle Singapore total vehicle population (solar would be question mark)

2. There are no emissions (excepting of course the waste nuclear material, which for all intents and puproses is neglible for only one power station)

3. Once constructed the operating costs of Nuclear are very low

4. I think the govt is moving towards a Nuclear power station anyway - so as an interesting side discussion I would like to hear how people feel about nuclear power.

[Darryn]

Electric ka is commercially available, will u pay US$100K for it?

 

Tesla Motor

 

It has a super good range 236 miles or 378 km. Practically from Singapore to KL. With home connector (for landed property), 4 hrs to full charge from flat.

 

In 2012, there will be a 4 dr version with better range up to 300 miles or 480 km.

 

Yep I know about the Tesla (but didn't google the range figures before starting thread)

 

At USD$100k we are talking around SGD$150k.

 

If that could be brought down to say SGD$100k for the four door as it hits full production and Singapore buys say 30,000 a year, of size and fitment of Accord.

At same time it is exempted from ARF (but still got COE) So same price as accord - assume the specs of 200km range (to reduce cost) and 3 hour charge time (range reduce sure got charge time reduce right?) would you buy?

 

For me a few things are a MUST have

1. The power generation must also be carbon free

2. There must be enough charging stations - in reality this is a massive and costly undertaking, but Singapore is still uniquely suited to it

 

[Tigerwoods]

Air-Powered Car Coming to U.S. in 2009 to 2010 at Sub-$18,000, Could Hit 1000-Mile Range

 

The Air Car caused a huge stir when we reported last year that Tata Motors would begin producing it in India. Now the little gas-free ride that could is headed Stateside in a big-time way.

 

Zero Pollution Motors (ZPM) confirmed to PopularMechanics.com on Thursday that it expects to produce the world's first air-powered car for the United States by late 2009 or early 2010. As the U.S. licensee for Luxembourg-based MDI, which developed the Air Car as a compression-based alternative to the internal combustion engine, ZPM has attained rights to build the first of several modular plants, which are likely to begin manufacturing in the Northeast and grow for regional production around the country, at a clip of up to 10,000 Air Cars per year.

 

And while ZPM is also licensed to build MDI's two-seater OneCAT economy model (the one headed for India) and three-seat MiniCAT (like a SmartForTwo without the gas), the New Paltz, N.Y., startup is aiming bigger: Company officials want to make the first air-powered car to hit U.S. roads a $17,800, 75-hp equivalent, six-seat modified version of MDI's CityCAT (pictured above) that, thanks to an even more radical engine, is said to travel as far as 1000 miles at up to 96 mph with each tiny fill-up.

 

"I want to stress that these are estimates, and that we'll know soon more precisely from our engineers," ZPM spokesman Kevin Haydon told PM, "but a vehicle with one tank of air and, say, 8 gal. of either conventional petrol, ethanol or biofuel could hit between 800 and 1000 miles."

 

Those figures would make the Air Car, along with Aptera's Typ-1 and Tesla's Roadster, a favorite among early entrants for the Automotive X Prize, for which MDI and ZPM have already signed up. But with the family-size, four-door CityCAT undergoing standard safety tests in Europe, then side-impact tests once it arrives in the States, could it be the first 100-mpg, nonelectric car you can actually buy?

Edited May 5, 2010 by Tigerwoods

[TangoElite]

I did read the article a few times. He is indeed selling his electric cars for $1.8m. Bonus is 2% company share.

 

 

 

substance over form my friend, cannot be so simple minded

 

the form is what you proclaimed

 

the substance is otherwise

 

 

 

[Chewbacca]

Don't count on the air powered vehicle. I remember reading an article that listed down all the problems.

 

The 96MPH is highly misleading. You're only getting when your tank is full. When it's half depleted, you're not going to get that kind of speed anymore.

 

 

[TangoElite]

Well yeah...except I'm not talking about what generating technology Singapore should use - I want to have some brainstorming about EV.

 

Reason I suggest nuclear as the power source is

1. The generating capacity is confirmed enough to handle Singapore total vehicle population (solar would be question mark)

2. There are no emissions (excepting of course the waste nuclear material, which for all intents and puproses is neglible for only one power station)

3. Once constructed the operating costs of Nuclear are very low

4. I think the govt is moving towards a Nuclear power station anyway - so as an interesting side discussion I would like to hear how people feel about nuclear power.

 

 

yes in the context of EV, solar power isnt feasible

 

 

i agree with nuclear too, as i mentioned, if a warship/submarine/aircraft carrier can be powered by it, i dont see why we cant do the same on a rig or platform.

 

 

 

 

[Chewbacca]

yes in the context of EV, solar power isnt feasible

 

 

i agree with nuclear too, as i mentioned, if a warship/submarine/aircraft carrier can be powered by it, i dont see why we cant do the same on a rig or platform.

 

I'd say that it's probably because if something goes wrong, a nuclear plant on the sea will have much greater impact.

 

When a plant on land goes kaput, its fallout is relatively limited. Like some one earlier mentioned, the thinking is that 5 km radius should be safe.

 

When you have it on sea, though, it's likely to spread much further. And then when the fishes and marine life absorbs the radioactive dust or radiation, some other animals eat them, blah blah blah, some poor sod may eventually become an X-Men.

 

I won't mind if it can grant me Xavier's mind controlling powers, though.

 

[Tigerwoods]

Don't count on the air powered vehicle. I remember reading an article that listed down all the problems.

 

The 96MPH is highly misleading. You're only getting when your tank is full. When it's half depleted, you're not going to get that kind of speed anymore.

As I said before, the reason why this Technology is still NOT a viable alternative to Fuel Cells, Hybrids, Electric car is because there is no "Energy Source" for those Energy Companies to sell you.

 

Imagine that Spore adopts this Air Engine and develop /improve it - What will happen to our GDP from Bukom ?

Billions of $ gone. Its too big a deal not to touch even if its polluting our environment.

 

OK the Hybrids or Electric cars - they can sell the Battery - its Big business.

 

For Air Engine - they have to suppress it - what can they sell - Air Pump ??

 

This is why NO country can give a helping hand to this Tech.

Edited May 5, 2010 by Tigerwoods